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I'm away till about 17 August




archive May 2005 - March 2011 - April 2011 - June 2011 - July 2011 - September 2011 - October 2011 - December 2012 - January 2013 - December 2013 - January 2014 - February 2014 - April 2014
Limited availability from Monday till Thursday. Messages at my talk page during those days might remain unanswered till Friday.


A barnstar for you![edit]

Special Barnstar Hires.png The Special Barnstar
The Special Barnstar is awarded to a user as a gesture of appreciation when there is no other barnstar which would be appropriate.

Thank you for all your hard work! -- Steinsplitter (talk) 20:20, 6 May 2014 (UTC)

About "Smite_generic_logo.jpg" (Third time is the charm)[edit]

I came to check if there was any news on the matter, since I haven't got a single message from anyone at all, but I noticed something: The description and reasons of why the file was deleted was changed to "Copyright violation: http://www.parliamodivideogiochi.it/2014/01/14/pdv/rubriche/att/2014-giochi-in-uscita/".

There is a "small" problem with this: I made that particular version of the file, and I did Not upload it to that website.

I still have the original file on my pc (seems like my paranoia is starting to pay off), stating that it was last modified on December 15, 2013.

I'm trully indignated by this. I've been patient, I've put a good amount of time and effort in all this, only to end but being branded a generic kid uploading stuff they downloaded from somewhere.--Malvodion (talk) 09:39, 11 May 2014 (UTC)

Hi, please send your message to OTRS. Jcb (talk) 14:04, 13 May 2014 (UTC)

Sobre File:Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone logo.png[edit]

Hola, Jcb. Hace unos meses subí varios archivos a Wikimedia Commons que fueron borrados, ya que los subí con la licencia incorrecta. Por ejemplo, vos borraste File:Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone logo.png. La pregunta es: ¿cómo podría volver a subir esos archivos pero con una licencia diferente?, ya que Commons no me deja. De antemano, gracias. Facu Carneiro (talk) 22:56, 31 May 2014 (UTC)

A través de Commons:Undeletion requests/Current requests - Jcb (talk) 11:20, 1 June 2014 (UTC)

Biografía Carlos Antonio Cifuentes. CC-BY-SA-3.0 y GFDL[edit]

Hola Jcb, gusto de saludarle. Puede usted ayudarme con este permiso, por favor. Un Saludo.--Deucaleon (talk) 03:42, 7 June 2014 (UTC)

Hola Jcb. El permiso de la autora, ya había sido enviado el 5 de junio de 2014, a las 18:08hrs. Lo volveré a enviar nuevamente desde mi correo. Saludos. --Deucaleon (talk) 14:46, 7 June 2014 (UTC)
Por favor, ten paciencia. Somos pocos en OTRS. Jcb (talk) 14:47, 7 June 2014 (UTC)
Muchas gracias Jcb por confirmar el archivo. Saludos.--Deucaleon (talk) 15:58, 9 June 2014 (UTC)

File:Seal of the Southern Cherokee Nation of Kentucky, Inc.png[edit]

You deleted this file as some type of copyright infringement. I am on the National Council of the Southern Cherokee Nation of Kentucky and that seal you deleted is ours to post on Wiki Commons as we see fit. Please restore the seal to Wikimedia Commons and the Southern Cherokee Nation of Kentucky Wiki article. Wado.

Please send a valid permission to OTRS. Jcb (talk) 15:19, 13 June 2014 (UTC)

RE:[edit]

Hi Johann, his wife shots the photo, sorry but I seem obvious that the camera is owner of the man and the woman grants the permissions and the free license for use it. They are newbies, they don't know our policies Ezarateesteban 09:42, 17 June 2014 (UTC)

I understand they are newbies, that's why we have to give explanations and ask questions. We are in place to guide them through policies, not to help them breaking policies. Jcb (talk) 15:38, 17 June 2014 (UTC)

Commons:Deletion requests/All pictures uploaded by User:Riesending-bergwachtfotos[edit]

There is still ongoing debate on your decision, you may confirm what I wrote knowing the OTRS-Mails. Thanks -Riesending-bergwachtfotos (talk) 09:33, 20 June 2014 (UTC)

I have put the discussion on my watch list. I will keep an eye on it. Jcb (talk) 09:50, 20 June 2014 (UTC)

File:Scoundrel 4.jpg[edit]

Hola Jcb. He visto que has eliminado File:Scoundrel 4.jpg por violación de copyright. La página que mencionas o sea esta, así como su contenido, es publicada bajo la licencia CC-BY-SA. Podrías por favor verificar y avisarme si es posible restaurar el archivo. Un saludo, Jmvkrecords Intra Talk 18:54, 21 June 2014 (UTC).

Verificado y restaurado. Jcb (talk) 20:54, 21 June 2014 (UTC)
Dank u! Jmvkrecords Intra Talk 22:42, 21 June 2014 (UTC).

Sorry, but I disagree. Wikia content could be release with that licence, but pictures aren't. Just notice than, in the same link, they shows "Pirates of the Caribean" logo. That is not content with free licence. As two users explained me on february, Wikia got a global licence, but doesn`t mean all content is free. See the picture: low quality, probably screenshot. Description says: "One of "Scoundrel of the Seas" flags from POTCO game". In my opinion has no chance to be "free content". Cheers. --Ganímedes (talk) 13:01, 22 June 2014 (UTC)

We can use the Precautionary principle to delete it again... sorry. Is not possible to know that the image is correctly uploaded on Wikia. Licence is right, but... Regards, Jmvkrecords Intra Talk 16:52, 22 June 2014 (UTC).
Ok, deleted again. Thanks for the input both of you. Jcb (talk) 17:15, 22 June 2014 (UTC)

Mass Delete these Photos[edit]

Dear Admin Jcb,

Can you file a mass DR on these photos? They are copyrighted. The uploader states that these sculptures were carved by Henri Bouchard but he died in 1960 in France and Commons has a template not to upload such images. Please help. --Leoboudv (talk) 04:42, 22 June 2014 (UTC)

When I came back from a long wikibreak last year, I decided to try not to involve myself in Freedom of Panorama related issues, to keep myself out of trouble. I still think that was a good decision. E.g. User:Jameslwoodward will be able to advice you in this case. Jcb (talk) 10:50, 22 June 2014 (UTC)
From time to time I, too, have tried staying out of FOP cases -- your decision is a good one.
I agree with Leoboudv that these are all derivative works and should be deleted. I suggest you use Visual File Change to put the DRs on them. .     Jim . . . . (Jameslwoodward) (talk to me) 12:37, 22 June 2014 (UTC)

Bedeutende Luftfoto für die Architektur - File:Orphanage-1a.Aldo van Eyck.jpg[edit]

Hi Jcb, am 11.11.2013 haben Sie geschrieben: "Ich kann das Bild wieder setzen, wenn wir eine gültige Genehmigung durch OTRS erhalten." - Der Copyrightbesitzer "Aviodrome Collectiebeheer in Lelystad" hat am 3.6.2014 das schriftliche Copyright an Commons geschickt. Commons hat es wie folgt registriert:

Ticket#: 2014 0603 1000 5416 und Ticket#: 2014 0603 1000 5425

Darf ich Sie freundlich fragen, die Luftfoto wieder zu setzen, resp. wieder zu aktivieren. Für Ihre Mühe zum voraus besten Dank. User:Leuk2 User talk:Leuk2 13:15, 22. Juni 2014 (UTC)

Das Ticket ist in unserer Warteschlange. Tickets werden in der Reihenfolge des Eingangs bearbeitet. Jcb (talk) 11:38, 22 June 2014 (UTC)

Das Copyright von 4 Zeichnungen (Diagoon 1.Herman Hertzberger.jpg) wurde am 3.6.2014 an Permissions geschickt. Nach einem Tag, am 4.6.2014, waren die Zeichnungen aktiviert! User:Leuk2 14:30, 22. Juni 2014 (UTC)

Ich verstehe nicht, warum Sie ein DE-1 Benutzer belästigen, um die Priorität auf Ihre DE Ticket zu bekommen. Bitte warten in Geduld. Jcb (talk) 13:23, 22 June 2014 (UTC)

Im deutschsprachigen Raum hat man einen guten Vorbildtext für das Copyright von andern Autoren. Leuk2 16:30, 22. Juni 2014 (UTC)

File:Orphanage-1a.Aldo van Eyck.jpg aus Amsterdam ist aktiviert durch den deutschen Benutzer Krd. Leuk2 12:00, 8. Juli 2014 (UTC)

Question[edit]

First, I don't know what is the relationship between OTRS and license reviewer , there is no mistakes in the files I reviewed from (Flickr , Picasa .. etc) and there is no reason to revoke this right from me! Second, You treat me as "stupid" without any respect ! I know it is a mistake, but it ordinary not basic as you said! because it came from (like official) email (not free email) and include right license and I search it in google and tineye and didn't find another website host it, there is no there is no suspicious thing , so I add a ticket. I admit (and do not deny) that is a mistake, but I think you should not rush in harsh judgments , specially it first time for me and I join the team in less than one month! and this mistake is 1% of all permissions I made, you check my last approved tickets yourself, and found it is right, I'm also not a junior or newcomer, I'm also administrator in wikipedia and active at Wikimedia/Wikipedia from 2009 so what experiences you talk about , and how can I gain experiences (as you said) and you behead my head from first mistake! --Ibrahim.ID 02:36, 25 June 2014 (UTC)

About half of your permissions were bad. I did not (yet) check your reviewer activity, but you obviously do not have sufficient knowledge of copyright to have additional rights. People need to trust review-templates. They cannot if we give the rights to unexperienced people. Jcb (talk) 06:08, 25 June 2014 (UTC)
How could you say «About half of your permissions were bad» then say «I did not (yet) check your reviewer activity» !!! are you serious ?! are you revoke the right before check my permissions?!!
Unfortunately, all you calculations is not right, because you only reverted 4 files from 27 files I have reviewed:
  • File:Gary Marks.jpg right OTRS ticket you checked it yourself.
  • File:Monica Wehby.jpg came from right place, just need photographer name only !
  • deleted file
  • File:Sandra Maas1.jpg not depicted person, it came from real person with real name and email , she use a right licenses with perfect template, but we discover (including you) that she is not the real Author (nobody can sure 100% before) , neither you nor anyone can detect the right author because there is no sources in google or tinyeye and there is nothing is suspicious .
I know that I should be more careful ,but I didn't make willful violation or ignore the guidelines.
If you think that I'm inexperienced , this is your «personal point of view» only, there are an administrator in Meta accept my OTRS volunteering request, and in commons: there are two administrators support me in the request and the third neutral user give me the right ! you should respect the opinions of others, Wikimedia Commons is not yours and the administrative permissions are not depend on personal opinion, so please reconsider it , Because your decision is hasty and too rough --Ibrahim.ID 11:23, 26 June 2014 (UTC)
I think you don't get the point yet. Do you e.g. clearly understand the English word 'depicted'? You may wish to reconsider your Babel information, EN-2 may be more in line with your real knowledge of English. Jcb (talk) 15:23, 26 June 2014 (UTC)
OK, let's talk about my English skills! what else? I think if someone made a mistake or doesn't know , the other one must assume a good faith and discuss it with him. Are you did? No, you took your decision immediately and treat me with contempt since a first time. --Ibrahim.ID 00:49, 28 June 2014 (UTC)
Administrators are allowed to assign or remove those rights at their own discretion. If a user turns out not to be capable, rights may be removed immediately. Your comments afterward clearly confirmed (not even taking into account the poor English) that you are too unfamiliar at the moment with copyright to have reviewer rights. Jcb (talk) 21:10, 28 June 2014 (UTC)

Jean-Yves Lechevallier[edit]

Hello Jcb, in the series of pictures uploaded by User:DDupard concerning artworks of Jean-Yves Lechevallier, link to ticket : https://ticket.wikimedia.org/otrs/index.pl?Action=AgentTicketZoom&TicketNumber=2014061110010654 , the picture File:Polypores Fountain. Jean Yves Lechevallier.jpg has not yet that ticket, probably the ticked discussion Commons:Deletion requests/File:Cristaux.jpg crossed the upload of this latest image. User:DDupard is a beginner. Does the ticket account for this picture or do DDupard and the artist have to repeat the procedure for another ticket? Greetings. --Havang(nl) (talk) 15:20, 25 June 2014 (UTC)

The permission is generic and we also received a new message to the ticket to notify us that new files were added. I have marked them as confirmed. Jcb (talk) 15:49, 25 June 2014 (UTC)

File:Barbage à l'Ecole normale supérieure de Lyon le 10 juin 2014 (photo La Barbe à Lyon).jpg[edit]

Dear Jcb, I have looked for the author and found her three days ago. The author of this photo is Laura Tangre, she is a professionnal photographer she has sent the evidence of permission and licence GFDL / Cc-by-sa to "permissions-commons-fr@wikimedia.org " (on July 15th) And I m going to write her name under the photo (elle "donne son autorisation pour publier cette œuvre sous la licence GFDL / Cc-by-sa"

I hope nothing is missing now. If something is missing, please tell me.
Best regards --Mocaya (talk) 08:27, 18 July 2014 (UTC)
Messages to OTRS are processed at a regular base, but not daily. Once someone of us deals with it and finds the permission in order, we will mark the file as confirmed. Jcb (talk) 09:35, 18 July 2014 (UTC)

File:La Barbe université de la gastronomie à Tours - Rencontres François Rabelais 09 11 2013.jpg[edit]

Message to User :Jcb Dear Jcb, I have looked for the author and found her three days ago. The author does not want to see her name on Wikipédia but I sent sent the evidence of permission to "permissions-commons-fr@wikimedia.org "

I hope nothing is missing now. If something is missing, please tell me.
Best regards --Mocaya (talk) 09:08, 18 July 2014 (UTC)
Messages to OTRS are processed at a regular base, but not daily. Once someone of us deals with it and finds the permission in order, we will mark the file as confirmed. Jcb (talk) 09:35, 18 July 2014 (UTC)

Commons:Deletion requests/File:2012 07 05 Yael Abecassis.JPG[edit]

Hi Jcb, I was very surprized to see that you closed the deletion request 1 hour and 40 minutes after I opened the request, with the closing comment: " nominated for the same reason three months ago and kept. No valid deletion reason. Commons is not censored." Since the first request was closed with "no reason given", and I gave a valid reason according with the policy of Wikimedia founation Resolution:Media about living people the reason of your closing is not correct. I ask you to reopen the deletion request and give the other users in Commons the chance to express their opinion. Thanks Hanay (talk) 04:46, 19 July 2014 (UTC)

I read that resolution and it doesn't give any reason for this particular case. We cannot delete pictures with a valid license just because the subject or her agent doesn't like it. I don't know how experienced you are at OTRS, but requests like this come in on a daily base and much colleagues just explain to the subject that their permission is not needed for a picture taken in a public place. Imagine what would happen if we would fulfil these requests. The stream of censorship requests just because e.g. someones hair is in the wrong direction would become unmanagable. I cannot read your Hebrew answer, but please explain to her agent that her permission is not needed for a picture depicting her in a public place and that we don't do courtesy deletions if there is no apparent reason. There is nothing wrong with this picture. Jcb (talk) 10:42, 19 July 2014 (UTC)

File:Escudo de Chipiona.svg[edit]

You tagged this file missing permission or author and I tried to help a colleague heraldist who may be absent for some time. As far as I can see both details are given like with plenty (maybe +100) coats of arms this user has drawn and uploaded with the identical file details. What is specifically wrong with this file, pls? -- Maxxl² - talk 10:47, 23 July 2014 (UTC)

Ok, I've seen this thread only yet, I've converted this completely arbitrarily tagging to a regular DR, because Jcb is an admin and has reinserted the SD. User: Perhelion (Commons: = crap?)12:17, 23 July 2014 (UTC)
Ok, I will respond to the DR later today. Jcb (talk) 13:33, 23 July 2014 (UTC)

File:Bruno Choel.jpg[edit]

Hi, I noticed you deleted File:Bruno Choël.png. Another file, with a different picture but the same quality has been uploaded by the same user: File:Bruno Choel.jpg. If you see any possible copyright violation here too, please do act. Elfix 13:09, 27 July 2014 (UTC)

Thanks, I have started a DR. (Later today I will be leaving for a few weeks, this edit may be my last edit before 17 August) - Jcb (talk) 16:57, 27 July 2014 (UTC)

File:Passage 907 - Henrijean.jpg[edit]

Hello. I noticed you deleted "Passage 907 - Henrijean.jpg" & "Passage 504.jpg" whereas I've asked a special authorisation by email at permissions-commons-fr@wikimedia.org. I work with the author and he allows the publication of the pictures under a cc-by-sa-3.0 licence. It has already been done with the following files : - Adam - Henrijean.jpg - Autoportrait- Henrijean.jpg - Curiculum Vitae - Henrijean.jpg - Le temps d'une seconde - Heanrijean.jpg How should I proceed to have the same kind of authorisation for the two more recent works ? Thank you. Best regards. --Nimbus08 (talk) 15:13, 29 July 2014 (UTC)

Although it may take a while before you get an answer, this should be dealt with by email. Jcb (talk) 17:16, 17 August 2014 (UTC)

File:Marco Aarnink.jpg[edit]

Commons-emblem-issue.svg File:Marco Aarnink.jpg has been listed at Commons:Deletion requests so that the community can discuss whether it should be kept or not. We would appreciate it if you could go to voice your opinion about this at its entry.

If you created this file, please note that the fact that it has been proposed for deletion does not necessarily mean that we do not value your kind contribution. It simply means that one person believes that there is some specific problem with it, such as a copyright issue.
Please remember to respond to and – if appropriate – contradict the arguments supporting deletion. Arguments which focus on the nominator will not affect the result of the nomination. Thank you!


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JurgenNL (talk) 09:23, 30 July 2014 (UTC)

File:EricVerberne.jpg[edit]

Commons-emblem-issue.svg File:EricVerberne.jpg has been listed at Commons:Deletion requests so that the community can discuss whether it should be kept or not. We would appreciate it if you could go to voice your opinion about this at its entry.

If you created this file, please note that the fact that it has been proposed for deletion does not necessarily mean that we do not value your kind contribution. It simply means that one person believes that there is some specific problem with it, such as a copyright issue.
Please remember to respond to and – if appropriate – contradict the arguments supporting deletion. Arguments which focus on the nominator will not affect the result of the nomination. Thank you!


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JurgenNL (talk) 16:09, 4 August 2014 (UTC)

File:Julio Ríos Gallego 2014.JPG[edit]

Hi. I spoke to someone about this today at Wikimania, and I hope you don't mind me being bold but I have reverted the authorship to as originally stated - if nothing else we can work on the basis that the author should be attributed as they wish, and there's nothing to stop someone wishing to be attributed as someone else. I have started a discussion on this general topic at Commons:Village_pump#Authorship_for_images_where_subject_is_not_the_photographer_but_is_the_person_who_sets_things_up, which you may want to join in once you get back from your holiday (?). -mattbuck (Talk) 22:50, 9 August 2014 (UTC)

@mattbuck, in this case it is not true that the photographer stated that she wants to be named as her husband. The depicted person didn't state such a thing either. Only the uploader claims such a thing, but in this case she (Marinna) is clearly the one to blame, because she caused the initial confusion by sending standard texts to several people in which those people claim to be the author and/or copyright holder of a picture depicting them. Jcb (talk) 17:09, 17 August 2014 (UTC)
I don't doubt there's confusion, but I think we can just let this one slide. The uploader's happy, the subject/author are allegedly happy, it's all gone away. There are certainly issues with communicating in non-native languages, I think it can be chalked up to that. -mattbuck (Talk) 20:06, 18 August 2014 (UTC)
Ok, but only this one. I will keep an eye on this uploader. Jcb (talk) 21:01, 18 August 2014 (UTC)

Permisos OTRS (Lorenzo Peirano (1), Lorenzo Peirano (2) y Poemas de Lorenzo Peirano (2014))[edit]

Hola Jcb. Puede usted ayudarme con este, este y este archivo. De antemano, muchas gracias. Saludos.--Deucaleon (talk) 21:55, 11 August 2014 (UTC)

File:Solidus Tiberius Petasius.jpg[edit]

Restored with proper license. --SJuergen (talk) 21:51, 18 August 2014 (UTC)

Your deletion of Gabor B. Racz photo[edit]

I just discovered that you removed File:Dr. Gabor B. Racz.jpg citing the reason No OTRS permission for 30 days. On June 24, 2014, written permission was sent under the license Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike 3.0 to permissions-en on June 24, 2014. Permission was sent for all the photos. Was there something else I had to do? The article was nominated for GA status, and a reviewer has contacted me, so please advise at your earliest possible convenience. Thank you in advance.... AtsmeConsult 04:08, 20 August 2014 (UTC)

I see you also sent an email today, which is already responded by a colleague. Jcb (talk) 16:02, 20 August 2014 (UTC)
Yes, I sent an email to permissions trying to get this issue resolved before the GA review begins. First time I've ever had to hunt down a work for hire head shot photog to get permission after the author/owner of the photo granted permission. AtsmeConsult 19:21, 20 August 2014 (UTC)

images illustrant l'article français La Barbe[edit]

Bonjour, I need help, Green Giant a laissé un message incompréhensible menaçant de supprimer toutes les photos illustrant l'article français LA BARBE. (I have received a message by Green Giant that I do not understand at all, because the permissions have already benne sent by the authors and the tickets delivered. https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Mocaya#.7B.7BAutotranslate.7C1.3DFile:Remise_du_diplome_de_Barbe_d.27or_-_La_Barbe_Toulouse_groupe_d.27action_f.C3.A9ministe.jpg.7Cbase.3DImage_permission.2Fheading.7D.7D

  Les permissions ont pourtant déjà été envoyées par les auteurs .
  Et les numéros de ticket ont ensuite  été délivrés.
   Je ne comprends pas du tout, pouvez-vous venir à mon secours ? : thanks, regards   cordialement,     Mocaya  --Mocaya (talk) 09:01, 23 August 2014 (UTC)

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Mocaya#.7B.7BAutotranslate.7C1.3DFile:Remise_du_diplome_de_Barbe_d.27or_-_La_Barbe_Toulouse_groupe_d.27action_f.C3.A9ministe.jpg.7Cbase.3DImage_permission.2Fheading.7D.7D

Please ignore the Green Giant message. I have forwarded an email message to you with the open question. Jcb (talk) 11:35, 23 August 2014 (UTC)

File:Motherwell FC logo.png[edit]

Hoi Jcb, de release van deze afbeelding is een beetje op het randje. Denk je dat je nog even met die club in contact kan treden om het echt duidelijk te krijgen? Op irc hadden mensen het nu over verwijdering en dat zou natuurlijk zonde zijn. Multichill (talk) 13:06, 31 August 2014 (UTC)

Op het randje misschien, hoewel in ieder geval strict genomen voldoende. Ik stel voor dat we ons eerst op echte problemen richten, op lekken als Hanay, die stug door blijven gaan PermissionOTRS te plakken op afbeeldingen waarvan wij niet eens weten wie de auteur is. Die het voldoende vinden dat een of andere "groep" blijkbaar een fototoestel kan bedienen, of die denken dat 'auteur' hetzelfde is als 'afgebeelde persoon'. Als die mensen de hand boven het hoofd wordt gehouden, zoals hier en hier, dan denk ik dat het weinig zin heeft om ons bezig te gaan houden met oude tickets die strict genomen wel correct zijn, maar niet helemaal optimaal. Jcb (talk) 13:22, 31 August 2014 (UTC)
Don't shoot the messenger. Bijvoorbeeld user:Natuur12 wilde het al gaan nomineren voor verwijdering. Multichill (talk) 13:33, 31 August 2014 (UTC)
Ehhh, hou mijn offwiki gebrabbel er even buiten wil je. Ik was helemaal niks van plan. Natuur12 (talk) 13:44, 31 August 2014 (UTC)
Sorry Natuur12, dan heb ik dat verkeerd begrepen. Mijn excuses. Multichill (talk) 15:51, 31 August 2014 (UTC)