User talk:WalkingRadiance

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Constant314 (talk) 01:40, 24 February 2022 (UTC)

Where is the source of the copyright? ScientistBuilder (talk) 01:52, 24 February 2022 (UTC)

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SI logo

Hi ScienceBuilder,

I see that you loaded a copy of the SI Logo from the BIPM website onto Commons and have used it in the Wikipedia article en:International System of Units. Although most of the images on the BIPM website can be loaded into Commons, the image that you loaded has a "no-derivative" (Creative Commons Attribution-NoDerivatives 4.0 International) clause attached to it which means that it violates Commons' standards (See here. The image can however be loaded onto the English Wikipedia under a "fair use" clause. See en:WP:Non-free_content_criteria. May I also respectfully suggest that if you do transfer it to the English Wikipedia, that you use a shorter name. Martinvl (talk) 17:21, 21 April 2022 (UTC).

The name should be long because if two files have the same name, the latter file overwrites the previous file its best to be as descriptive as possible to avoid any conflicts. For more details, see Wikipedia The Missing Manual published in 2008. ScientistBuilder (talk) 12:26, 22 April 2022 (UTC)

I didn't modify the work, I just downloaded it and uploaded the work. I didn't recolor the work or dilate the logo, so why can't I use it. The copyright page for the BIPM is CC 3.0 IGO https://www.bipm.org/en/copyright, not CC 4.0 IGO. ScientistBuilder (talk) 12:28, 22 April 2022 (UTC)

@ScientistBuilder:

• If you go to BIPM Copyright information you will see the text in condition 03: "Unless stated aotherwise ..." and on the page Promotion of the SI you will see that the SI logos may only be copied using "Creative Commons Attribution-NoDerivatives 4.0 International". This latter condition overrides the general condition.
• I went to en:WP:File names. The opening sentence states: "Wikipedia file names should be clear and descriptive, without being excessively long." The name that you have chosen is much longer than most other file names. In the case of this image, I suggest "SI logo (2019) - units and constants.png" which meets the conditions of being clear and descriptive.

Martinvl (talk) 14:47, 23 April 2022 (UTC)

Here is some information from Wikipedia the Missing Manual:

Short or cryptic names for images make them a lot harder to find and use. If you use a short name, or the default filename from your camera (like DSC123456.jpg), it’s much more likely that someone else will later upload an image with exactly the same name, and that will overwrite what you uploaded. Or, if you’re uploading to the Commons with the intent to add an image to the English Wikipedia, you’ll discover that an image file with the name you picked already exists on Wikipedia, so you can’t use the one at the Commons.

The best image name is a fairly long description. A bonus of using such a name is that you can copy and paste it into the Description field for the image, saving yourself some typing. (The maximum file name length is around 250 characters, but you won’t need a name that long.)

Finally, the image name you use has to have a three-letter extension, such as .jpg or .svg. The extension must match the actual file type, or the photo won’t display correctly. That makes image pages different from regular pages (articles, talk pages, portals, categories, and so on), which don’t have a suffix. If you forget the extension, you’re going to have to upload the photo again. Lowercase extensions, such as .jpg, are preferred over uppercase, like .JPG, though both work. Note that the Commons (and other MediaWiki websites) considers them two totally different files. ScientistBuilder (talk) 18:19, 23 April 2022 (UTC)

@Martinvl I can change the copyright to CC 4.0 IGO. Will this fix the copyright and legal issues leaving the file name issue to be resolved? ScientistBuilder (talk) 18:20, 23 April 2022 (UTC)

@ScientistBuilder:

• When you write "The Missing Manual". please insert a wikilink by writing "[[:en:WP:The Missing Manual]]".
• I will leave you to call your file whatever you think is best, I was just giving you the benefit of many years experience in IT - I wrote my first program in 1969.
• The licence that is applicable to this file is "CC-BY-NC-SA-4.0", not "CC 4.0 IGO". If you refer to Commons:Licensing#Forbidden licenses, you will see that "-ND" licences are forbidden in Commons. Since the file in question uses It is therefore not OK to load this file into Commons.
• You can load this file into the English Wikipedia under a "Fair Use" criteria.
• If you do load this file onto the English Wikipedia, its source is "https://www.bipm.org/en/measurement-units/si-promotion".

Martinvl (talk) 22:19, 23 April 2022 (UTC)

@Martinvl "CC-BY-NC-SA-4.0" does not include No Derivatives. ScientistBuilder (talk) 16:43, 27 April 2022 (UTC)

@Martinvl Can I take a screenshot of the logo and upload the file?

Is there any way I can keep the high quality and follow the law?

I'm confused what no derivatives mean. ScientistBuilder (talk) 16:45, 27 April 2022 (UTC)

@Martinvl I would like to keep the high quality and upload the file by modifying it, maybe with a different colored background. ScientistBuilder (talk) 16:46, 27 April 2022 (UTC)

Hi @ScientistBuilder: I have found a work-around for the licensing requirements. Your image came from this site which has a licence that is incompatible with Wikimedia Commons. I found this site which has a Commons-compatible licence. Under the licence, I was able to cut and paste the logo from the SI Brochure and transfer it to Commons, keeping to the terms of both Commons and BIPM. The only price that we have had to pay is a sligh degragation in quality, but it the logo is reduced to 300 px, the degregation is not noticable. I have uploaded a new image here.

@ScientistBuilder:

Logo of the revised SI (Courtesy of BIPM)

• I made an error - the copyright notice should have been "CC-BY-ND-SA-4.0" (or possibly "CC-BY-ND-SA-3.0". "No derivatives" means that you cannot modify the file - if you visit this file, click "SI Illustration Guidelines" and look at page 2 of the resultant file, you will see a few derivatives that are not permitted. Likewise you are not permitted to use parts of the illustration. Wikimedia COmmons demands that all files are "free" which includes the freedom to modify files.
• No, you can't take a screenshot as that would not change the copyright situation.
• You can only do what the copyright holder permits you to do. Often the copyright holder will require that you pay a fee to use their pictures (that is how professional photographers make a living), but in this case, BIPM are not demanding a fee, just that you use the file "as is" to append to any of your documents - for example the complete text of SI which is on the 9th edition of the brochure. The SI Brochure is copyright as "CC-BY-AT-3.0" which means that you can extract what you like from it including the logo (BIPM own the copyright if both). I have already done that - see my contribution on the right. If you look at the file itself, you will see that I have explicitly stated why I believe that I can use it. If a user wants a high quality image, they can go to the BIPM site - in thsi case the Commons site is principally for Wikipedia editors.

For the record, it is unlikely that BIPM will complain unless somebody uses a derivative of the file. Martinvl (talk) 17:13, 27 April 2022 (UTC)

@Martinvl I understand the ND means no making money off the BIPM logo. Is that correct? I agree with the BIPM saying no making money by selling products with the BIPM logo. ScientistBuilder (talk) 18:03, 27 April 2022 (UTC)

@ScientistBuilder: NO - "ND" means that you will not modify relevant file in any way apart from including it in some other file ("No derivatives"). This includes photographing it or taking a screen shot of it. Commons does not permit files with an "ND" attribute to be loaded. The attibute "NC" means that you will not make any money out of it. Martinvl (talk) 20:49, 27 April 2022 (UTC)

I found the text at https://creativecommons.org/licenses/

Attribution-NonCommercial-NoDerivs

CC BY-NC-ND

This license is the most restrictive of our six main licenses, only allowing others to download your works and share them with others as long as they credit you, but they can’t change them in any way or use them commercially. ScientistBuilder (talk) 21:57, 27 April 2022 (UTC)

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Yours sincerely, Yann (talk) 21:07, 7 August 2022 (UTC)

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Seashell graphics for flat, Gouraud, and Phong shading

Hi there! I have some questions about these three images that you uploaded in August:

• 
  "Flat"
• 
  "Gouraud"
• 
  "Phong"

Firstly, are these images the ones you meant to upload? Because the Gouraud and Phong images don't look right to me; they both appear to show flat shading, the same as the first image. In fact, the Gouraud and Phong images are pixel-for-pixel identical to each other, and it took running an image comparison with ImageMagick for me to determine that the flat image is not identical as well! (It differs from them in the colours of some—not all—of the pixels on about a dozen of the faces.)

Secondly, these files comprise a PNG image stored within an SVG wrapper, which is quite an inefficient way to display an image. Is there a reason why these weren't simply uploaded as PNG files? -- Perey (talk) 11:37, 22 October 2022 (UTC)

I will change the images to Gouraud shading and Phong shading. The code I use is in Mathematica 13.1 would be something like Graphics3D[{GouraudShading[], ResourceData["Galleon"]}].

I uploaded as SVG because vectors can be scaled indefinitely. WalkingRadiance (talk) 14:56, 22 October 2022 (UTC)

Great, I look forward to seeing how the new versions turn out!

As for scaling, yes, vector graphics can be scaled indefinitely, but the issue is that the image in each of these isn't created using vectors. Instead, it's a PNG (raster) image, wrapped in an SVG file that does a bit of scaling and clipping, but doesn't actually draw anything. If a viewer zooms in on the image, they will soon see individual pixels, instead of vectors crisply rendered at the new size!

(Maybe I'm a cynic, but I imagine that this is the result of somebody at Wolfram figuring they can "tick a box" on the Mathematica feature list and claim to have SVG export, without actually bothering to use vectors to do the rendering...) -- Perey (talk) 11:02, 23 October 2022 (UTC)

Well I can upload a png as well. Would that be useful? Byn the way is there is a noticeable difference between the new uploads? WalkingRadiance (talk) 22:54, 23 October 2022 (UTC)

File ABS[z]

Hallo,

I saw your image of ABS[z]

but it isn't the right graph:

the ABS[z] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Absolute_value) graph is a linear graph in real and imaginary directions with a derivative discontinuity in the origin;

it's a cone with null imaginary part (always red color) Ming mm (talk) 11:18, 2 January 2023 (UTC)

I will fix this. I was testing a way to add Mathematica code.

Is there a template that I can use to add the Mathematica code used to generate the plot? WalkingRadiance (talk) 15:11, 2 January 2023 (UTC)

Ok, thanks for your answer.

I can't help you on template for code, sorry.

Keep in mind that is not always convenient to use the module/fhase color graph,

for exemple in ln(z) graph is more convenient real/immaginary graph because immaginary part is a a simply screw graph.

Best regards Ming mm (talk) 11:35, 9 January 2023 (UTC)

what do mean

Keep in mind that is not always convenient to use the module/fhase color graph,

for exemple in ln(z) graph is more convenient real/immaginary graph because immaginary part is a a simply screw graph.

? WalkingRadiance (talk) 13:48, 9 January 2023 (UTC)

I don't understand what you mean by module/fhase color graph. WalkingRadiance (talk) 13:49, 9 January 2023 (UTC)

Ok, now it is the right plot.

About your question on module/phase color graph: it is the image you are now using for representation of complex function, in wich module of the function is the hight of the graph, and phase of every point is represented by color of right index. Ming mm (talk) 13:57, 19 January 2023 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Original Barnstar
	Merci Fred1806 (talk) 09:19, 5 January 2023 (UTC)

Why 4th power of z?

Hallo

in the file

File:Complex color plot of the Laguerre polynomial L n(x) with n as -1 divided by 9 and x as z to the power of 4 from -2-2i to 2+2i.svg

you multiply the Laguerre polynomial (n= -1) by z to the power of 4 but it create only confusion because L -1 (x) =exp(-x)

Try using another n and leave the polynomial as it is.

Best regards Ming mm (talk) 14:06, 19 January 2023 (UTC)

Can you format your message with math formatting because I don't fully understand waht you are saying? WalkingRadiance (talk) 21:08, 20 January 2023 (UTC)

Hallo

Leguerre polinomial for n =-1 is L _-1 (x) = e^-x

but you plot the complex function e^{-z^4} /9

I understand division by 9 for scaling,

but I don't understand your choice that isn't coherent with the article function.

Can you explain the reason of that? Ming mm (talk) 12:08, 21 January 2023 (UTC)

I thought it would be more interesting. Would you like me to change the description for the file? I can also create a normal plot without raising z to a power. WalkingRadiance (talk) 16:51, 21 January 2023 (UTC)

Hallo @WalkingRadiance,

I hope you understand what I mean because my english is not perfect and for me is difficult writing becuase normally I think in italian then translate, but it require a lot of time and sometimes means are differents.

We write on an open encyclopedy for give better information to readers, but sometimes information are misunderstanded or wrong and this create confusion to the readers.

In my italian homepage I have a section [1] with a list of error I correct so readers don't ask itself "WHY my information is different from this ?"

So, I think this: Laguerre polynomials are defined on Real variable and usually application are in Real field but a complex graph may be done but without changing (scale exluded) the function we are looking.

You can plot L₂ (x) =${\tfrac {1}{2}}(x^{2}-4x+2)$

Best regards Ming mm (talk) 17:54, 21 January 2023 (UTC)

Council for best complex image

Hallo @WalkingRadiance

You made good works but can I allow you a council for best representing complex image?

Coplex image are often based on radial function (like exponential or powre of z) so image are better if are represented in a radial reference and not in squere one like default programs do.

Here an example of what I mean:

I don't know if you and the program you use are able to do that...

I think also abs(z) are better explained if this representation is used. Good night

Ming mm (talk) 18:06, 21 January 2023 (UTC)

I am using Mathematica 13.2. WalkingRadiance (talk) 02:45, 22 January 2023 (UTC)

Imaginary part of ber function is not zero

Hallo @WalkingRadiance, The imaginary part of ber function

isn't always zero as we see in this image, but is a fourth power of z as described in wolfram.com [2]https://reference.wolfram.com/language/ref/KelvinBer.html Can you change this image with the correct one?
Ming mm (talk) 11:43, 27 February 2023 (UTC)

I uploaded a new version. WalkingRadiance (talk) 15:53, 27 February 2023 (UTC)

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