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Please complete your user page, that\'s usefull to other users to know if you are a true user, on what you work, and many things :]

And thanks for your contibution (the map ~) Yug (talk) 18:42, 21 August 2006 (UTC)


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Please help replace this outdated license[edit]


Thank you for donating images to the Wikimedia Commons. You have uploaded some images in the past with the license {{PD}}. While this was a license acceptable in the early days of Wikimedia, since January 2006, this license has been deprecated and since October 2008 no new uploads with this license was allowed.

The license on older images should be replaced with a better and more specific license/permissions and you can help by checking the images and adding {{PD-self}} if you are the author or one of the other templates that you can see in the template on the image page.

Thank you for your help. If you need help feel free to ask at Commons talk:Licensing or contact User:Zscout370.

The images we would like you to check are:

BotMultichillT 20:34, 8 January 2010 (UTC)

Good work or Targeted user[edit]


I hope that you could understood the fact that targetting mosts contributions or always the same user could be problematic. I'm agree that Commons should be expurged from all non-free files but there a lot of other files that those uploaded by Markus3. Please don't be too focalized on his pictures and do something else. Like uploading yourself some pictures, targeting some others users, or others categories (like Penis, a lot of work here).

Also please try to imagine that the situation could be reversed. You will be the target of an unknown user who request each day the deletion of your files, what will be your sentiment ? Please be free to present yourself on your user page. --GdGourou - °o° - Talk to me 10:56, 28 June 2011 (UTC)

in my opinion the best thing to do would be to take a few minutes to cancel all of your requests requests that are based on a clear misinterpretation of the French law. Pictures which do not show any copyrighted work of art (like a statue, painting, etc.) or recent building (which means created by an architect who has not been dead for more than 70 years) should not be considered as breaking the law on panoramas. In case you'd be more concerned by the fact that some people could be recognized on some pictures, please note that there is another law in France that states that you are free to take pictures of people during a public event (festival, protest, march, concert, etc.) without having to ask their permission.
So, to avoid waisting everyone's time and avoid hurting the feelings of one or several contributors, please consider re-examining your requests in detail and removing the useless ones. Cordially, Alchemica (talk) 14:11, 28 June 2011 (UTC)
My recent DR show people in costumes, yes but also objects that do not have utilitarian aspects and are therefore generally copyrighted as works of art. I am not nominating images based on the appearance of people in the images, but on the works of art therein. Therefore, COM:FOP#France and COM:DW both correctly apply. For previous DR for the exact same type of image please this request and this request. In some images, de minimis may be argued, and that depends on the POV of the closing admin, but certainly not in all. I do not care who uploads the images if it is not the author/artist/architect of the object in question, unless permission has been correctly granted. I am not targeting any one user, I am going through the giant category in alphabetical order and if one user has uploaded lots of images without the correct permission, then sobeit. --Grcampbell (talk) 15:39, 28 June 2011 (UTC)

FOP in France[edit]


Merci pour les demandes de suppression. C'est un travail ingrat où l'on se fait surtout des ennemis. Faites néanmoins attention que les éléments sujets au droit d'auteur ne soit pas de minimis. Exemples : Commons:Deletion requests/File:Pouilly-lès-Feurs (Loire, Fr) prieuré, panneau.JPG, Commons:Deletion requests/File:Stade Chaban-Delmas.jpg. Cordialement, Yann (talk) 16:14, 29 June 2011 (UTC)

Tip: Categorizing images[edit]

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Hello, Bob247!
Tip: Add categories to your images

Thanks a lot for contributing to the Wikimedia Commons! Here's a tip to make your uploads more useful: Why not add some categories to describe them? This will help more people to find and use them.

Here's how:

1) If you're using the UploadWizard, you can add categories to each file when you describe it. Just click "more options" for the file and add the categories which make sense:


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Requesting SUL for Bob247. --Bob247 (talk) 20:11, 9 November 2012 (UTC)


Oh well done Bob.

Now my article has been decimated!

I know the law is the law but was this infringment really doing any harm.

Weglinde (talk) 14:11, 22 November 2012 (UTC)

Deletion of images[edit]

Why not delete ALL my french photograph.

Get a life!

Weglinde (talk) 16:27, 23 November 2012 (UTC)

Deletion of images[edit]

Why not delete ALL my french photographs ?

I don't know how to tell it in English, so I use French : Vous êtes un ...-pantoufle. Allez au diable. Gérard Janot (talk) 08:20, 25 November 2012 (UTC)

Deletion of images[edit]

Please make sure that all images you nominated for deletion, because of no FOP, are transferred to local wikipedias allowing such images (as English or French), before their effective deletion. Thanks. Croquant (talk) 09:28, 25 November 2012 (UTC)

opposé à la la destruction de 8 photos[edit]

Je suis contre la suppression de mes huits photos qui ont été prise dans un domaine public , la statue appartient au domaine public (propriété du bien national ). De plus La Cour de cassation française a également statué le 5 juin 2003[1], « qu'il n'y a pas de droit du propriétaire sur l'image de son bien ». D'autre part Wikimedia commons et les autres Wiki ne sont pas situés en France (mondialisation internet) la réglementation ne s'applique pas pour exemple Panoramio (Google) a accepté et diffusé ces photos. I am against the removal of my eight pictures that were taken in a public domain, the statue in the public domain as well as national property. More The French Supreme Court has also held June 5, 2003 " there is no right of the owner of the image well." On the other hand Wikimedia commons and other Wiki are not located in France the regulations do not apply to such Panoramio (Google) has accepted and distributed these pictures..

  1. 5 juin 2003

Serge ottaviani 27 november 07:32

your link has no bearing on the argument for deletion. Please read freedom of panorama (France). --Bob247 (talk) 06:42, 27 November 2012 (UTC)
Sans savoir exactement de quelles photos vous parlez, il n'est en général pas question des droits du propriétaire d'un bien mais de l'architecte l'ayant réalisé, à moins que la photo ait été prise d'un endroit réputé privé. Esby (talk) 14:46, 28 November 2012 (UTC)
Bonsoir; supprimer des photos d'images sans tenir compte des avis de cour de cassation française et avec la mondialisation d'internet le droit français de protection d'image est inaplicable car c'est images ont stockées hors du territoire français avec une législation nettement plus laxiste.Enfin Supprimer sans prendre le soin ni la correction de répondre à un argumentaire n'est pas à mon sens de la démocratie wikipédienne mais proche de l'intégrisme arbitraire. Il est vrai quand cette période de chômage faire et défaire c'est toujours travailler.Trés cordialement
Serge ottaviani 03 december 18:02
Comme je l'ai dit, il serait bien de savoir de quelles photos supprimées vous parlez ici. Commons est censé respecter la loi américaine ET la loi du pays ou a été prise la photo: ici la France, il n'y a pas de fr:liberté de Panorama en France, vous ne pouvez donc diffuser une photo d'un bâtiment réalisé par un architecte toujours vivant ou mort depuis moins de 70 ans sans son accord. Vous ne pouvez non plus vous introduire sur une propriété privée sans l'accord du propriétaire et publier des photos réalisées depuis cette propriété privée.
Esby (talk) 19:03, 3 December 2012 (UTC)
Bonsoir; les premiers mots de mon propos du 27 novembre sont les suivants : Je suis contre la suppression de mes huits photos qui ont été prise dans un domaine public , ces statues appartiennent au domaine public (propriété du bien national ). Il ne s'agit donc pas de propriété privée mais de bien nationaux et à ce titre payés certainement par le trésor public car un privé ne peut user de ce domaine . Je rappelle que ces photos ont été séléctionné et diffusé par Google Panoramio ( Y-a-til une réglementation Commons et une Google ?). Enfin Bob247 restera-t-il toujours sans mots ? Trés cordialement.Serge ottaviani 04 december 17:46
Cela vous arrive-il de lire ce qui vous est demandé? Je demande de quelles photos exactes vous parlez... Il y a 13 millions de fichiers sur Commons, et j'ai pas envie de les faire un à un pour savoir duquel vous parlez... Esby (talk) 20:07, 4 December 2012 (UTC)
He is referring to the files listed for deletion on his alter's user talk page. They were all nominated and deleted per freedom of panorama (France) guidelines. --Bob247 (talk) 22:55, 4 December 2012 (UTC)
Thank you. Esby (talk) 07:17, 5 December 2012 (UTC)
Pour Serge ottaviani: je ne vois rien d'anormal dans les demandes de suppression: même si les monuments en question sont inscrits à un patrimoine quelconque, cela n'annule pas pour autant les droits d'auteurs pouvant exister dessus, à moins bien sur d'être (ou de convaincre) un héritier des artistes d'autoriser la diffusion des photos de ces oeuvres au sens de la loi française. dura lex sed lex... Esby (talk) 07:25, 5 December 2012 (UTC)

Basilique de Lisieux[edit]


Where did you get the information that Louis-Stanislas Cordonnier did an architectural work on the Basilique de Lisieux ? The more I search, the less I found evidences that the son did anything else than supervising the end of the work.

Cdlt, VIGNERON (talk) 18:24, 28 November 2012 (UTC)

PS: don't forget to add a Category:Undeletion requests when you launch a RfD.


Y nominating my pic? dude do something better rather then pocking your nose around

Autopatrol given[edit]

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Hello. I just wanted to let you know that I have granted autopatrol rights to your account; the reason for this is that I believe you are sufficiently trustworthy and experienced to have your contributions automatically sighted. This will have no effect on your editing, and is simply intended to help users watching Recent changes or Recent uploads to find unproductive edits amidst the productive ones. Thank you. INeverCry 00:26, 30 November 2012 (UTC)

I remove it, according the very wrong feedback other editors have let about Bob247.
They don't like the anonymous way he does the edit and they noted the low ratio (25%) of successful DR.
I have mixed feeling about this situation and would clearly prefer Bob247 addresses the community concern before to get special rights. --Dereckson (talk) 18:16, 3 December 2012 (UTC)
>98% of files nominated for deletion that have been closed as delete this month (140 of 142 so far). --Bob247 (talk) 19:10, 3 December 2012 (UTC)

Pictogram voting comment.svg Comment One concern about the autopatrol flag, Commons is an international project and you don't have a userpage, it's better to have a short presentation with the different language you speak (please see Commons:Userboxes), moreover having a userpage makes it a little bit less anonymous when you nominate dozens of files for deletion. --PierreSelim (talk) 07:13, 5 December 2012 (UTC)

I don't want a user page. Admins on the English wiki have purposefully deleted their own user pages. Until there is a requirement to have a user page, I do not want one. This has been used in the past by others for personal attacks and stalking. This is why I wanted an anonymous username and requested the username change. It is also why I had my userpages on other wikis deleted. This is my choice. Therefore, I object to the veiled personal attack by Dereckson that I am puerile on the Bistro page regarding my choice of username. Finally, as User:INeverCry (which Dereckson will no doubt believe to be another puerile username) has stated above, the autopatroller rights have no effect on [my] editing, and is simply intended to help users watching Recent changes or Recent uploads to find unproductive edits amidst the productive ones. Therefore, it isn't really a right. It will simply create more work for other users to wade through my contributions. Though Dereckson has stated that he wants to carefully check them, so I hope he has fun. Finally, have you (Dereckson) seen anything wrong with my recent DRs? Am I supposed to hold hands with users whose files I nominate? According to the discussion above, and on Bistro, the vast majority of my recent DRs that have been the subject of much whining have been supported and the files deleted and categorized as undelete in XXXX if relevant. --Bob247 (talk) 09:43, 5 December 2012 (UTC)
PS I find the behavior of Dereckson towards me thus far has been nothing short of insulting, disrespectful and rude, a behavior which he has also shown to User:INeverCry. --Bob247 (talk) 10:43, 5 December 2012 (UTC)
Well, I believe Dereckson was mislead by the Bistro and the feeling associated to see a random nickname + random number. Checking your contributions (as you might be checking other people contributions) is kinda normal to me, especially when there is no profile associated(red name). New account (red) are usually more prone to vandalism than others, so they have to be checked... You could also link to a blank or empty profile o, so people would be less be surprised by the red link. But I guess there would still be people complaining that you hide in anonymity: they can complain, but per policy, you don't have to disclose your identity, also, 'esby' or 'dereckson' are as anonymous as 'bob243', those are just nicknames, those does necessary not mean we hide our identity.
Esby (talk) 10:32, 5 December 2012 (UTC)
Thank you for the words of support, and for your comments above re ottaviani. Maybe I will change the signature to plain text, or blue unwikilinked text or similar... although I do like the red. --Bob247 (talk) 10:43, 5 December 2012 (UTC)

Category:French FOP cases/pending[edit]

Bonjour, cette catégorie est une catégorie de maintenance pour les admins, elle sert à catégoriser les demandes de suppression, il ne faut pas y inclure les images. Merci. --PierreSelim (talk) 07:15, 5 December 2012 (UTC)

OK, but it means more steps when nominating file and I am only at L in the French Sculptors category... --Bob247 (talk) 10:43, 5 December 2012 (UTC)
It means more steps when closing otherwise, If we keep pictures we have to move the categories from the DR and the File ^_^. However thank you for taking all this time to check the French sculptors categories. --PierreSelim (talk) 10:59, 5 December 2012 (UTC)
No matter you are only at L or A in the French Sculptors category... The purpose of this category is *not* for you including images as you like, eh, eh Gérard (talk) 08:17, 6 December 2012 (UTC)

File:Kabyle people.png[edit]

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