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Scalable Vector Graphics (SVG)[edit]

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Please use SVG
Thank you for uploading some images!

Did you know that the SVG format is often the best alternative for this type of image? Scalable Vector Graphics have a lot of advantages: They scale better, the file size is usually smaller then raster graphics, and they are easier to modify and translate, helping Wikimedia to distribute knowledge to all of the world. A lot of modern programs support SVG export, though the result is not always what you may expect. If you have questions, don't hesitate to ask me, a member of the Graphic Lab, or the Graphics village pump. Uploading images in SVG format isn't mandatory, but it would help. (Just to avoid any misunderstandings, please don't just put the raster image into a svg container as embedded raster.)[1] Thanks, and happy editing!

Thanks a lot for the efforts in fixing "my bug" :) -- RE rillke questions? 17:22, 21 June 2011 (UTC)

Gadget Update: UserMessages[edit]

Hi Brian!

Thanks for testing and using AxUserMsg.js . This is essentially important for developers and highly appreciated. The script is now available in your preferences. This will also speed-up page loading.

Please remove the line importScript("User:Rillke/AxUserMsg.js") from your common.js before activating the ordinary gadget.

If you have questions, don't hesitate to ask me or put them here. Even if you dislike a new feature.

Thank you! -- RE rillke questions? 13:04, 6 December 2011 (UTC)

I'm get pushing around ...[edit]

Another guy, another try :-)

Please have look at Commons:Village_pump#Maintaining_.28and_thus_editing.29_SVGs.27_text_like_wiki_articles. Now 2 weeks are gone and I got no constructive feedback from any responsible admin, not to mention a developper (from bugzilla?). Thus I like to repeat my still unanswered question: Whom must I contact on (commons-)wikimedia, or to which sub-community of wikipedia must I go to explain my wish / demand / proposal of this to get an expert peer-reviewing and a realization hopefully. User:Rillke suggested that I should ask you. Achim1999 (talk) 15:49, 22 June 2012 (UTC)

Replied at VPT[edit]

[2] sorry for the delay. - The Bushranger (talk) 09:45, 3 February 2013 (UTC)

Gallery redesign feedback[edit]

See also:

  • When developing tools I found the feedback given by Jean-Frédéric, LX and Rd232 very helpful.
  • I like that it works without JavaScript enabled. All variants will have their use case.
  • It would be preferable, if the user can switch the view in categories (e.g. showing all captions)
  • Is it possible to include the file name as a HTML5 data attribute? This would make it easier for third party tools to extract it instead of doing fancy things with the a[href] attribute or the img[src] attribute.
  • Will the No lines example work as expected in RTL languages?
  • How many feedback would you like to get? Should I issue a Watchlist Notice?

-- Rillke(q?) 16:37, 14 June 2013 (UTC)

The redisign should not replace the current design. There should be an attribute to control the design, for example <gallery style="noLines">. -- 05:22, 17 June 2013 (UTC)

If you look at the example's source code, you'll see that exactly this is done there. -- Rillke(q?) 08:28, 17 June 2013 (UTC)
I assume the current "standard" should be kept as a standard (without the need to specify any parameters). Otherwise this will mess up backwards compatibility. --Patrick87 (talk) 11:04, 17 June 2013 (UTC)
  • The image description text should not be bold by default. The possibility to format the text freely should remain. Regards, --IW 17:45, 17 June 2013 (UTC)

Did you know Help:QuickDelete?[edit]

This is a gadget which works exactly like the Nominate for deletion thing; it just also supports tagging copyright violations. -- Rillke(q?) 09:27, 27 June 2013 (UTC)

Re: Why both TIFF and JPG?[edit]

On why some of our most prolific batch uploaders upload both versions, the reason is mainly that many archive/GLAM people adore lossless TIFF format; more modern people may instead like lossless PNGs. However, most actual users want JPG versions; this need is surely alleviated by recent thumbnailing improvements, but possibly not eliminated. --Nemo 08:21, 12 September 2013 (UTC)

Help purging one djvu thumbnail[edit]

Hi, Bawolff. I'm trying to refresh one thumbnail and I can't do it. I've been trying all the actions described at Help pages, since some months ago, but they don't work in this specific page. Other times they worked OK in other DjVu pages by adding the "?action=purge". I ask you for help because of the message at Help talk:Purge#Alternative to advanced purge. Any help is appreciated.

The image is . This 1000px old version is wrong if it beings with "trició".

The newest version begins with "ulls". You can see it at any other resolution (e.g. 800px:

Because of this, it's not the same than .

It's not urgent. I hope it's not a bugg.

Thanks a lot for your time! -Aleator (talk) 17:11, 20 September 2013 (UTC)

✓ Done (I think). Bawolff (talk) 01:40, 26 September 2013 (UTC)
It works! :O Thanks a lot :) -Aleator (talk) 22:09, 26 September 2013 (UTC)

TIFF handling in MediaWiki[edit]

Hi Brian. As the resident multimedia team member in our village pump discussion about the duplication of TIFF files, I thought maybe we could get into the weeds a bit more about some of the software issues at play in handling TIFFs. There seem to be two main simple problems.

  • It would be incredibly helpful if the "Size of this preview:" under the image and the Stockphoto "Download" link in the bar at the top can't give an option for full resolution in JPG.
  • The current behavior when you click the image from the description pages is not ideal. Normally it gives you the full resolution image, but for TIFFs, it starts a download, usually of a very large file. I think the ideal behavior is either to serve the user a full resolution JPG version of the TIFF, or to give a pop up like the "download" button showing them the options.

What are your thoughts on the likelihood of either of those happening? I'm also interested in learning more about the sharpness issue—is that a deep technical problem? Please let me know if there is something on Bugzilla about it. (I found [3], which seems possible related?) Dominic (talk) 17:34, 27 September 2013 (UTC)

Actually, whether the click on the image starts a download or shows the image right in the browser, depends on the browser. Firefox really does start a download, while Safari displays the TIFF in the browser. I would say that a click on the image from the description page, except on videos, generally means "download the full file with all the information that is there", and that's also what's done e.g. with PDFs. My opinion is that the way browsers handle certain formats is a matter for browser developers to fix - we didn't e.g. make the click on an SVG file link to a full-size PNG when SVG wasn't yet widely supported. However, a link to a full resolution JPEG would indeed be helpful. darkweasel94 18:16, 28 September 2013 (UTC)

Following up on some of the interface-related issues we explored, I'm wondering what you think of bugzilla:56546, bugzilla:56508, and bugzilla:53017 (see my last comment, especially). I think sorts of changes would clarify things on the image description pages a lot, and seem fairly uncontroversial to me. I'm also curious if you have news about the fate of gerrit:86387. I don't know much about how code review happens; Is it just sitting and waiting for someone to come along? Dominic (talk) 07:04, 4 November 2013 (UTC)

For code review that's basically how it works (combined with bothering people until someone gets tired of you and reviews your contribution). Sometimes it can be hard to get reviews, especially for volunteers working in less popular areas of the codebase. I've been a bit busy in real life, so haven't had a chance to be as pushy about that change as I could have been. 56546 sounds reasonable to me (hardest part might be getting the proper name of the file format, but could probably just use extension). The other 2 seem to be straightforward small changes that would be good changes (all 3 seem like possible google code-in bugs). Cheers. Bawolff (talk) 17:43, 4 November 2013 (UTC)
gerrit:86387 is merged now. The change will probably appear on commons on Tuesday November 19 (Attempt to get new-fangled echo notice thing to give Dominic a notice). Bawolff (talk) 16:32, 7 November 2013 (UTC)
Echo succeeded. Thanks! :-) Dominic (talk) 18:03, 7 November 2013 (UTC)

Storage/Backend issues?[edit]

While monitoring the Rotatebot log I often come around images with storage issues; the first image revision is invalid but not completely broken as the second working image seems to gather wrong rotation info from it, so does Rotatebot and in the end the images gets rotated wrong. Deleting the file and restoring the first working image (usually the first but sometimes the second revision is shown as invalid) shows in most cases an image without rotation problem. Do you have an idea why this data corruption happens? Almost all of these image have the same storage time recorded, maximum one minute difference between the two. Example here. --Denniss (talk) 09:45, 28 September 2013 (UTC)

I think its a race condition in the filebackend. Not really sure what's going on. I filed bugzilla:54736. Bawolff (talk) 15:37, 28 September 2013 (UTC)

FP promotion[edit]

Hi Bawolff,

Do you have any idea on the problem we are facing with the FPCBot? We discussed with many, including Dschwen and Fæ; but unable to sole it. I made a post at VP; but doesn't attract any response so far. It will be very helpful if you can give any suggestion at User_talk:Daniel78#Bot_doesn.27t_close_new_nominations. JKadavoor Jee 08:25, 19 October 2013 (UTC)

Thanks, Bawolff; you have a message at User_talk:Daniel78#Bot_doesn.27t_close_new_nominations. JKadavoor Jee 17:43, 19 October 2013 (UTC)
Glad to see you working on it. Thanks, JKadavoor Jee 02:48, 28 October 2013 (UTC)
Hi; does the server side issue is over? Daniel restarted the bot as suggested by me and is working now. Since the moth is changed, file sizes are small now. I don't know the issues come later as the files grow. JKadavoor Jee 16:53, 4 November 2013 (UTC)
my proposed change in that area has not yet been merged, so the situation hasn't changed in that regard. Bawolff (talk) 18:09, 4 November 2013 (UTC)
Thanks. I do watch the bot actions, for any mishaps. JKadavoor Jee 02:34, 5 November 2013 (UTC)

File uploaded multiple time[edit]

Can you get a look at Commons:Administrators'_noticeboard#File_uploaded_multiple ? Move the talk at the right place if there is any. Phe (talk) 16:54, 20 November 2013 (UTC)

Title from file name[edit]

Hi Brian,

1.I see Media Viewer is using file name without extension as title of the work. How can I extract it similarly for my on attribution use in attribution field? I assume it can be achieved by some string functions and {{SUBPAGENAME}}.

2. Can I extract year from the date field of {{information}}? It works for me for custom templates; but not when I use information template directly at File page. :(

3. The log file of COM:FPC still showing DATA READ TIMEOUT errors when grown beyond a limit. So I periodically move contents for a temporary file and restore when the month is over, for the smooth running of the bot. JKadavoor Jee 16:55, 3 December 2013 (UTC)

Responded at your talk. Bawolff (talk) 00:44, 4 December 2013 (UTC)
Replied there; thanks, a lot. JKadavoor Jee 02:40, 4 December 2013 (UTC)
I just send a mail to you. JKadavoor Jee 09:32, 4 December 2013 (UTC)
One more mail. :) JKadavoor Jee 16:59, 4 December 2013 (UTC)
Thanks; everything is fine now. JKadavoor Jee 17:09, 4 December 2013 (UTC)

Christmas greetings[edit]

Hey, I wish you a merry Christmas and a restful time. Moreover I want to thank you for your numerous contributions to the Software and Bug tracker, as well as your dedication to assist in technical problems and questions. I perceive your comments always as helpful and interesting so thank you very much! And finally I wish you a successful start into the new year! --McZusatz (talk) 10:16, 24 December 2013 (UTC)

Thanks. A merry Christmas to you too. Bawolff (talk) 00:09, 25 December 2013 (UTC)


Please have a look at this if you have time. Some developer input needed, the task seems to be somewhat complicated. You may have a better idea to catch these dupes. --Denniss (talk) 22:21, 13 February 2014 (UTC)

Possible database quirks with some images[edit]

All non-deleted images at Commons:Database reports/Broken redirects (data as of 23:42, 27 February 2014 (UTC)) are repeatedly reported every day. All reported files in the list are redirects, either from moves or redirect creation after duplicate delete. Any idea what caused these reportings (apart from Bot error)? --Denniss (talk) 06:50, 28 February 2014 (UTC)

Hmm, not sure. I ran the same query that I believe the bot is running ([4]), on labs, and it got 0 results. If the bot is running on toolserver, perhaps there's some corruption in the toolserver database (my ts account is expired so I can't really check that). Special:BrokenRedirects (Which is now being updated semi-regularly, still probably not as regularly as the bot) doesn't show those redirects either. Bawolff (talk) 07:19, 28 February 2014 (UTC)

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Images without a license[edit]

Hi since we were just talking about it. Here is an example of a novice uploader "loosing" a license during upload session: user Cheers --Jarekt (talk) 04:16, 3 June 2014 (UTC)

Hi Jarekt. I traced that upload back to the w:Wikipedia:File_Upload_Wizard tool. I left a message at w:Wikipedia_talk:File_Upload_Wizard#uploads_to_commons_that_don.27t_have_any_license_info, so hopefully if there is a bug in that tool, that tools maintainers can figure it out. Bawolff (talk) 19:40, 3 June 2014 (UTC)
Thanks --Jarekt (talk) 20:00, 3 June 2014 (UTC)

There is no video associated with the current subtitle page[edit]

Do you know if there is an effective query (via DB or API) which returns all affected TimedTexts? TimedTextPage.php goes something like

                // Check for File name with text extension ( from remaning parts of title )
                // i.e

                $videoTitle = Title::newFromText( implode('.', $titleParts ), NS_FILE );

                // Check for remote file
                $basefile = wfFindFile( $videoTitle );
                if ( !$basefile ) {
                        $out->addHTML( wfMessage( 'timedmedia-subtitle-no-video' )->escaped() );
                        wfProfileOut( __METHOD__ );

but implementing this as reverse-search probably results in some kind of brute force algorithm. --McZusatz (talk) 13:53, 10 July 2014 (UTC)

MariaDB [commonswiki_p]> select page_title from page left outer join image on substr( page_title, 1, length( page_title ) - length( substring_index( page_title, '.' ,-2 ) ) - 1 ) = img_name where page_namespace =102 and img_name  is null;
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| Dust_Models_Paint_Alien's_View_of_Solar_System.ogv                                                               |
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| Himno_del_Colegio_Francisco_Arango.ogg                                                                           |
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| Jarry_(métro_de_Montréal)                                                                      |
| Jerry_Coyne_Voice.ogg                                                                                            |
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| National_Flag_Anthem_of_Republic_of_China_(Chorus)                                                 |
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| Russian_Anthem_chorus.ogg                                                                                        |
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| Taiwan(Republic_of_China)中華民國國歌                                                          |
| Taiwan(Republic_of_China)中華民國國歌                                                          |
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| The_Spirit_of_'                                                                                     |
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| Truth_In_Numbers.ogv.en.txt                                                                                      |
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| What's_a_Love_Dart                                                                                               |
| What's_a_Love_Dart?.webm                                                                                         |
| What_are_the_factors_that_generate_poverty                                                                       |
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| 郑璐_-_鄱阳湖之歌                                                                                  |
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This could probably be turned into a special page. Bawolff (talk) 01:16, 11 July 2014 (UTC)

A barnstar for you![edit]

Original Barnstar Hires.png The Original Barnstar
Thank you for your help! Natkabrown (talk) 10:16, 9 August 2014 (UTC)

File:Dobrolet logo (Russian).png[edit]

Commons-emblem-issue.svg File:Dobrolet logo (Russian).png has been listed at Commons:Deletion requests so that the community can discuss whether it should be kept or not. We would appreciate it if you could go to voice your opinion about this at its entry.

If you created this file, please note that the fact that it has been proposed for deletion does not necessarily mean that we do not value your kind contribution. It simply means that one person believes that there is some specific problem with it, such as a copyright issue.
Please remember to respond to and – if appropriate – contradict the arguments supporting deletion. Arguments which focus on the nominator will not affect the result of the nomination. Thank you!

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Fry1989 eh? 17:29, 20 September 2014 (UTC)

RfC of interest[edit]

I've started the Commons:Requests for comment/Hosting files for 3D models as you suggested. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus Talk 06:50, 28 October 2014 (UTC)

Help:Support of new file formats[edit]

Hi Brian,

I went ahead and drafted Help:Support of new file formats, based on a post you made on the VP recently. Do you think it is useful? Feel free to amend or make suggestions. :)

Cheers, Jean-Fred (talk) 18:39, 28 October 2014 (UTC)

Looks good to me. Bawolff (talk) 23:43, 28 October 2014 (UTC)

dev help needed[edit]

Hi Bawolff, per your recent comments on VP I've got the impression that you belong to the "dev camp" and could be our community's contact to the devs, which is dearly missing. Could you eventually take a look as this small thread Commons:Administrators'_noticeboard#200x200_Pixel_images_that_are_99_MBytes_large and give your opinion about the possibility to implement a sort of automatic filter that screens all uploads, either at upload or shortly thereafter or another solution? Thanks. --Túrelio (talk) 08:43, 2 November 2014 (UTC)

(Un)known JPEG artefact[edit]

Hi, on the help desk a contributor found a workaround for a JPEG preview artefact. Just click DEL and don't answer if this is off topic for your sphere of interests. –Be..anyone (talk) 12:49, 17 November 2014 (UTC)

Not spam...[edit]

...when you added your tool on Commons:Video almost two months ago, but now I commented it out, because it is apparently AWOL at toollabs:bawolff/usedVideosCommons.htm? –Be..anyone (talk) 03:31, 14 February 2015 (UTC)

@Be..anyone: ugh, I miss the stability of toolserver... Thanks for letting me know. It should be back now. I've taken the liberty of adding back the link. Bawolff (talk) 22:11, 17 February 2015 (UTC)