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First message[edit]

Deutsch: Willkommen auf Commons, Longbow4u!
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Hello - thank you for providing images to the wikimedia commons. Please keep in mind that images uploaded to the commons should be useful to all users of wikimedia projects - this is possible only if the images can be found by other people. To allow others to find the images you uploaded here, the images should be in some place that can be found by navigating the category structure. This means that you should either place the images on topic pages (galleries), or put the images directly into a category, or do both. Which of those possibilities is preferred is however a matter of debate, see here.

The important point is that the images should be placed in the general structure somewhere. There is a large number of completely unsorted images on the commons right now, see Commons:Really unused. If you would like to help to place some of those images where they can be found, please do! Thank you. -- Duesentrieb 18:39, 8 May 2005 (UTC)


Also, when copying images from a wikipedia, please make sure to always copy the full resolution image, not the scaled version with 800 pixel width. For high resolution images, ther's a link to the full resolution file beneath the scaled image. I will delete Image:800px-Luny Thomas Battle Of The Nile August 1st 1798 At 10pm.jpg, I have replaced it by Image:Luny Thomas Battle Of The Nile August 1st 1798 At 10pm.jpg with full resolution and appropriate name. -- Duesentrieb 22:29, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

From Talk on Mentana (RM)[edit]

You wrote: I am a big fan of your fotos, and I have transferred many of your pictures to wiki commons! especially from forum romanum and palatine hill. I understand you are located in ROME. Could you make some close pictures of the models in the EUR museum del la civita romana? best would be from different locations. I would be very interested in the DOMUS AUGUSTANA, FORUM ROMANUM, TEMPLUM PACIS PALATINUS, TEATRUM DE POMPEIUS. THERMAE de Caracalla. because I write articles for german wikipedia. Thanks in advance. Longbow 4u, Göttingen, Allemania. Longbow4u 01:39, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Thank you. Yes, I live in Rome (and I write articles on the same subjects as yours, it seems, on it.wiki).
I don't think I will be able to take good pictures from the model in the Museum of Civiltà Romana, because of its position and I'm not sure if it's allowed to take photos inside museums. But I could look for some old photo (not very good, I'm afraid) I could scan: but, I'm sorry, it will not be very soon. MM17:55, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Thank you. It is not urgent. But great work. Good to have so many photos of Rome. Please continue. I would like to recreate ancient Rome somehow. I have seen many photos of this model with google. But I don`t want to copy them because of unknown copyright status. Another thing: I have downloaded a free programme to edit my photos, especially to compress them. Its name is GIMP (www.gimp.org). It is cool, you can reduce the size of the photos without reducing the resolution. So you can reduce the size of photos from 2,5 MB to only, e.g. 500 Kb. If you like, you can try. I think it is also available in Italian. See you in wikipedia /wikicommons, Yours, Longbow4u 11:28, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Hello! What are conditions of usage with permission of Navyphotos at the page Image:HMS Hood (Royal Sovereign-class battleship of 1890s).jpg? - the template is not present there. Pibwl 21:20, 24 Jun 2005 (UTC)

I updated the information. But I think they prohibit third party use, so this licence is ineligible for wikipedia commons and should be removed. Although I personally think the image is probably Public domain because of age. It was taken before 1914, because the ship was sunk 1914. I think removal is in order. When I transferred it from english wikipedia, I was not yet familiar with commons licencing. Longbow4u 22:40, 24 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Siglo de Pericles[edit]

Gracias por tus palabras Longbow, dan muchos ánimos para seguir. :) Anna June 27, 2005 20:28 (UTC)

Pronunciation files[edit]

You don't need to add "-pronuncitaion" to your audio files. Just the language code with the word being pronounced is enough and is by far the most common format. This will avoid confusion and double naming of files.

Peter Isotalo 03:50, 3 August 2005 (UTC)

But then there can be easy confusion with the WikiProject Spoken Wikipedia, also audio. For example the pronunciation of De-Otto von Bismarck.ogg or the article. This is especially so for people who are new and not yet familiar with naming conventions. New spoken articles I name De-otto_von_Bismarck-article.ogg. Greetings, Longbow4u 06:04, 3 August 2005 (UTC)
There are several thousand files that all use the same format. Any newbie that is competenent enough to dig up individual sound files here at Commons will have hard time not noticing the description (and the file size) and will therefore not be confused. Any newbie that doesn't know how to dig up Commons files will for obvious reasons never experience this problem either. And like you pointed out: spoken articles already have their own format. Ergo, no real upsides to breaking a standard.
Peter Isotalo 13:13, 3 August 2005 (UTC)
I thought more about the problem of inadvertently overwriting a file of the other type, not about finding a particular file. Anyway, I already discontinued producing pronunciation files with pronunciation in the file name. This was only a measure to prevent files, which I had already produced, from being overwritten. Longbow4u 14:24, 3 August 2005 (UTC)

Berlin[edit]

What dialect (or sociolect?) is your recording of "Berlin" in? Is it colloquial? Specific for Berlin itself?

Peter Isotalo 03:55, 23 August 2005 (UTC)

standard german (hochdeutsch).
If that's Hochdeutsch, then what is [bɛɐˈliːn] supposed to be a transcription of (the one that is preceded by a link to German language)? I have studied a reasonable amount of German and I have a High German phonology at my disposal in the IPA handbook which doesn't quite agree with your rather terse answer. Let's continute the discussion over there, though.
Peter Isotalo 11:01, 27 August 2005 (UTC)
Sorry for the short answer. But I didn't have time then. Sometimes I don't take well with criticism. Sometimes I feel criticism where there is none. One should focus one the common effort. I added an answer on the Berlin page. Please no offense. I did not write hochdeutsch because this is always in the eye of the beholder. But I think it is so also objectively the case. Longbow4u 11:52, 27 August 2005 (UTC)
Standard spoken languages are by no means merely subjective. They are often very easy to identify and often quite clearly delimited, though not completely intolerant of some dialectal deviation. The only problem arises when people start labelling everything that isn't part of the standard as sub-standard deviation or "bad language", and we're certainly not doing that here.
Thanks for making the recordings I had planned. Some minor quibbles, though. Image:de-Gestapo.ogg is pronounced with an [st] instead of [ʃt], which is phonotactically wrong for German. Also, you're pronouncing the unstressed "e" like a short-ish [e] (as in leer) and not like [ə] (as in besitzen). It sounds a bit contrived.
Peter Isotalo 10:21, 28 August 2005 (UTC)
I uploaded a different pronunciation (of acronym as well as the full name) in place of your file. I saved your old file on my HD, so if you're not happy with the new one, I'll upload your's again. I would appreciate if you could reply to my quibbles about the pronunciation, though.
Peter Isotalo 06:48, 31 August 2005 (UTC)
Sorry, I was busy the last days. I don`t use watchlists or follow discussions in articles. So almost instant answer can only be achieved by posting the comment here. The modification is OK with me. I could record it again sometime to remove the clicking, (following the pronunciation there is now). Longbow4u 08:59, 31 August 2005 (UTC)

Sorry for being impatient. I'm also not so sure about the proper pronunciation anymore, because I have conflicting feedback from two other native Germans. On one hand it makes sense that a word that doesn't actually begin with "st" whould be pronounced [st], but then again, words like "verstehen" keep the [ʃt]. I'm not a native, but to me it would seem pretty logical to keep the pronunciation of "Staat" even if it was part of an acronym. Perhaps simply giving both as alternatives is reasonable. So both [gəʃta:po] as well as [gəsta:po] and then the whole term.

Anyway, I uploaded a new one with the proper /e/ for now. Please record a new one whenever you have the time.

Peter Isotalo 18:51, 31 August 2005 (UTC)

I am pleased with your genuine interest in the german language ! ;-) Longbow4u 19:18, 31 August 2005 (UTC)

Heiligenhafen[edit]

Thank you for creating an article about Heiligenhafen with my photo within. I added 3 other photos to it. In the end of october I will be there again and I hope I'll bring back new photos then. It's really a very nice little town - I love it.

--S.moeller 06:42, 2 September 2005 (UTC)

Actually, very nice photo indeed. Good work! Longbow4u 09:43, 2 September 2005 (UTC)

Einbeck[edit]

So viel schönes Fachwerk, aber warum packst Du die vielen Bilder nicht gleich beim Hochladen in Category:Timber framing oder eine neue Unterkategorie? --:Bdk: 08:23, 18 September 2005 (UTC)

Ich wollte die Kategorie nicht überfluten. Ich werde eine extra Seite für Einbeck anlegen, wie schon bei Fachwerkhäuser (Göttingen), mit Links auf einzelne Häuser und Erklärungen zu diesen. Ich sortiere sie erstmal in meine Userkategorie und suche dann aus. Longbow4u 08:26, 18 September 2005 (UTC)
Oh, das ist gut. Aber bitte sortiere alle Bilder, nicht nur eine Auswahl, in eine Seite/Kategorie ein, nicht nur in nutzerbezogene Seiten ... (wenn Du schon dran sitzt ;-) --:Bdk: 08:38, 18 September 2005 (UTC)

.ogg files[edit]

Thank you so much for your info! Ciao! --SabineCretella 20:37, 22 September 2005 (UTC)

You are very welcome. My own googling this evening revealed few conclusive things vis a vis encoding. I think it needs another year still to become more userfriendly to encode to Theora. Longbow4u 20:42, 22 September 2005 (UTC)
I heard yesterday at a wikipedia meetup that a useful program to re-encode video is MPlayer. Longbow4u 08:38, 16 October 2005 (UTC)

Usnjack.png on Commons[edit]

Upon looking at the Usnjack.png image I notice that it has been uploaded to Commons. There's a problem with that since the licensing for the image is not clear. It is not possible to say that it is a public domain image on Commons since its status on the English Wikipedia was unclear. It was one of a number of ship related flag images that I listed on the Wikiproject: Ships talk page as being potentially problematic. I also uploaded a replacement where the licensing conditions were clear since I made the image myself from an SVG which was from a public domain source. I've been trying to get rid of the image on the English Wikipedia for a while, although I've not done anything about it for a couple of months.

I'm going to alter the page for the image to make it clear that its status on the original server was unclear and that it thus should not have been uploaded to Commons in the first place. David Newton 19:37, 27 September 2005 (UTC)

That's fine with me. If it should have to be deleted, please remove or replace the image links from the wikipedia pages. Thanks, greetings, Longbow4u 20:07, 27 September 2005 (UTC)
The big problem with that image is that it was linked to by literally hundreds of articles. It is thus a very large task to clear it out so that it can be deleted. David Newton 20:10, 27 September 2005 (UTC)
Then it would be easier to draw a similar version, upload it under the same image name and licence it anew, PD preferably. That would save quite a lot of work. There are a lot of US ships out there. Perhaps we already have a properly licenced flag in the database. Longbow4u 20:16, 27 September 2005 (UTC)
Done. Image:Usnjack.png Longbow4u 20:47, 27 September 2005 (UTC)
If you created the image from SVG, please upload an SVG version. Thanks! -- Duesentrieb(?!) 22:11, 27 September 2005 (UTC)
The problem is that in this case one would have to change literally hundreds of wikipedia-pages which until now link to the png-image. The immediate concern was a copyright/tagging issue. Longbow4u 22:40, 27 September 2005 (UTC)

Email de Prevert[edit]

He leído su mensaje. No quiero entrar más in discusiones aquí que absolutamente necesario. El proyecto debería quedar siempre el único fóco. Por las próximas eleciones de administrador necesitamos claras reglas. Estricta separación de voto (articulo) y comentario (página de discusión). No mezcla de votos en favor y en contra, y numeración de votos para máxima transparencia. Eso garantizará un proceso de eleción lo más neutral posible, que será en el interes de todos. Longbow4u 21:31, 1 October 2005 (UTC)

Thanks ![edit]

Thank you for uploading the photo of Einbeck to Wiki-Commons. I'd like to use the photo for my preparing article of Fachwerkstrasse. Thank you. -- 汲平 / QBay, Oct. 3, 2005

You are welcome! :-) Greetings, Longbow4u 10:21, 3 October 2005 (UTC)

I'd like to say "thank you" again for making Category:Hann. Münden, Germany and Category:Timber framing (Hann. Münden). They are beautiful pages! I wrote some articles about Deutsche Ferienstraße in jp-Wiki. The photo of Einbeck you uploaded is used in one of the articles (Deutsche Fachwerkstraße).I long similar pages for some other German cities. Thanks. --QBay(ja) / QBay(en), Nov. 1, 2005.

I have already planned for Duderstadt and Heiligenstadt, similar small towns with timber framing. But this will likely be next year, because autumn in Germany has come, and it is getting darker with lot of raining. Probably in April/May 2006. Greetings, Longbow4u 15:45, 1 November 2005 (UTC)

They are good plans! They must be wonderful pages. I long for these pages. Greetings, QBay(ja) / QBay(en),Nov. 2, 2005

Rune stones[edit]

Thank you for your comments on my page! Uppsala is a district in Sweden that includes Stockholm and Uppsala. I grew up there and I am working on translating all the rune stone articles from the Swedish wikipedia into the English one...

More about Uppland: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uppland

More Runestones: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Runestone#List_of_Rune_Stones_articles

Greetings, I really like the runestone images. I used to have a "viking" book when I was small, but with only one page with runes, and no runestones. So that's kind of a missing link. Please sign your comments with 4 tildes, so it's easier to reply. :-) Longbow4u 15:33, 8 November 2005 (UTC)

Licensing / Attribution[edit]

regarding you comment on the village pump, please note that you should never use a license tag that "means about the same". Only the creator of the image has the right to specify a license! All we can do is to reproduce the statement of the creator. For images just requireing attribution, without specifying a license, there is Template:Attribution. Regards -- Duesentrieb(?!) 16:30, 4 December 2005 (UTC)

Schnelllöschung[edit]

Ich finde "Bild:XYZ" weder unwissenschaftlich noch pornographisch. Wenn du meinst, es gehört nicht hierher, stelle bitte einen regulären Löschantrag. Wenn der Benutzer den entsprechenden Baustein auch entfernt, sperre ich ihn (oder die Seite) gerne. Gruss -- Duesentrieb(?!) 19:27, 6 December 2005 (UTC)

Nachtrag: nur so als klarstellung: Ich finde das Bild auch nicht so toll, und den regulären LA halte ich für gerechtfertigt. Ob es gelöscht werden sollte, da bin ich eher neutral... wir hatten schon ein paar bilder, die waren definitiv jenseits des guten geschmacks - und wenn exibitionismus hier überhand nimmt, muss man was dagegen tun. Dieses Bild halte ich zwar für grenzwertig, aber nicht für eindeutig "löschwürdig".

Was du mit "meinen Antrag ganz entfernen" meinst, hab' ich nicht verstanden... Ich hab' nur versucht dafür zu sorgen, dass der LA nicht wegen "Formfehlern" anfechtbar wird. Gruss -- Duesentrieb(?!) 20:08, 6 December 2005 (UTC)

Ich meinte damit, dass Du meinen Antragstext von deiner Diskussionsseite nehmen kannst. Ich finde es nicht so appetitlich, einen link auf so ein Bild auf seiner Disk.-Seite stehen zu haben. Im Allgemeinen löscht man ja nicht fremde Wortbeiträge (in diesem Fall meinen). Deswegen habe ich auch den Bildlink hier ausgeblankt.
Ah, ok -- Duesentrieb(?!) 21:00, 6 December 2005 (UTC)
Mit der Stellung des Löschantrags bin ich erstmal zufrieden. Ich wäre aber auch für eine Entkrempelung der Kategorie:Male genitalia und eine stringentere Schnelllöschregelung für "unappetitliche" Bilder. Aber das ist ja etwas anderes. Schrecklich wäre es, wenn Leute sehen, dass hier ein Platz für solche Bilder ist, und täglich dutzende hochgeladen würden. Dann würde man mit Löschanträgen kaum noch hinterherkommen. Longbow4u 20:45, 6 December 2005 (UTC)
Da stimme ich dir zu - täglich dutzende brauchen wir wirklich nicht von der Sorte. Die Frage ist, wie man "unappetitlich" definiert - 'ne Sittenpolizei brauchen wir eher nicht. Du kannst ja eine Erweiterung der Schnellöschregeln mal auf der Village Pump vorschlagen. -- Duesentrieb(?!) 21:00, 6 December 2005 (UTC)
Ich bin auch gegen Zensur, aber ich bin für klare nachvollziehbare Regeln zum Upload, die von den Admins dann befolgt werden können. Zumal ja auch so viele wertvolle Bilder mit anderen Themen reinkommen. Ich denke darüber nach. Longbow4u 21:10, 6 December 2005 (UTC)

Schwyz[edit]

Can you please record the german pronunciation of the swiss canton "Schwyz"? and you have time and you really want to so all the other cantons as well (-: - Thank You Roeeyaron 01:29, 19 March 2006 (UTC)

I can give it a try. But my native language is high German from Northern Germany, while the Swiss people speak a local dialect. So I am not quite sure if I would pronounce their local names correctly. It would make sense if you ask Swiss user de:Benutzer:Gestumblindi for the pronunciation of Swiss local names. He is also a contributor to the German Spoken Wikipedia. Greetings, Longbow4u 17:48, 19 March 2006 (UTC)
See table in w:en:Cantons of Switzerland Longbow4u 09:25, 22 March 2006 (UTC)

Image:Drei Ringe von Krupp.jpg[edit]

Hi Longbow4u, habe Deinen SLA zu "Drei Ringe von Krupp.jpg" entdeckt und wollte eigentlich nur nachfragen, ob er tatsächlich berechtigt ist. Hat dieses Bild die nötige Schöpfungshöhe, um geschützt zu sein? Greetinx! --Sippel2707 09:32, 28 March 2006 (UTC)

Das Bild wurde zusammen mit ca. 22 anderen Logos von geschützten Dax30-Unternehmen hochgeladen, die von der Webseite der deutschen Börse übernommen wurden (gerippt wurden), von User:ThyssenKrupp. Die meisten anderen sind wegen offensichtlichem Mißbrauch schnellgelöscht worden. Übrig blieb das Krupp-Bild. Ich vertrete die Auffassung, dass das Kriterium Schöpfungshöhe eigentlich immer gegeben ist, wenn das Werk aus mehr als einem Strich oder einem Komma besteht. Daneben zeigt das Bild auch ein markenrechtlich geschütztes Motiv. Ich denke, es wäre für Commons als ganzes besser, solche Bilder nicht zuzulassen, da sie möglicherweise teure Unterlassungs-oder Schadensersatzklagen auslösen können. Das ist es nicht wert. Wir haben so viele andere, wirklich freie und gute Inhalte. Wir brauchen nicht fremdes geistiges Eigentum (fremde Werke, Markenzeichen etc.). Ich würde Logos lieber nicht zulassen, und das als allgemeine Policy. Das gibt sonst nur Ärger. Schöne Grüße, Longbow4u 18:22, 28 March 2006 (UTC)
Habe gerade gesehen, dass das Bild von Stahlkocher hochgeladen wurde. Ich bin darauf nur gestoßen, als ich ThyssenKrupps Benutzerbeiträge nachträglich mit SLAs versehen habe. Er hatte kurz zuvor etwas daran geändert (History). Es hat schon eine andere Qualität als die anderen gelöschten Logos. Allerdings halte ich auch hier Schöpfungshöhe natürlich für gegeben. Firmen investieren zum Teil Millionen in die Gestalt ihrer Logos. Besser nicht. Aber wenn ihrs unbedingt haben wollt. IMHO würde man solche Bilder gar nicht aufnehmen. Grüße, Longbow4u 18:35, 28 March 2006 (UTC)
Stahlkocher hätte in der Bildbeschreibung besser erwähnt: "Detail vom Kühlergrill eines Krupp-Lkw (Oldtimer)." Dann wäre eine Zulässigkeit eher gegeben, da das Logo dann eher zufällig da abgebildet wäre. Über die mangelnde Schöpfungshöhe würde ich hier nicht argumentieren. Longbow4u 20:22, 28 March 2006 (UTC)

Template:Coor dms[edit]

Hello Gabor, I used the template created by you for Template:Location. I would like to ask what to insert in Variable No. 9 ( {{{9}}} ). Longbow4u 11:11, 24 April 2006 (UTC)

Hello. The ninth parameter is explained here on en.wiki. By the current standing of things, the server at Kvaleberg.org doesn't require these; they are optional.

I really like that new template of yours, Template:Location. I label all my photos with their locations, so I support your efforts. I believe that the template should include pages where it is included into Category:Files with locations (and those using the {{Map}} template should be moved to this new cat as well). —UED77 17:59, 24 April 2006 (UTC)

Thank you very much. I really wanted it to work so much. I would like to support Arnomane in his efforts, too, to give Wikimedia Commons more structure. When I will update my photos with the template in the next weeks, I will change them to the Template:Information as well. I saw that you referred to the En:WP as origin of Coor dms, so I found the missing parameter there. A further reading on the German georeferencing project gave help, too. Thank you for your support. I will check if I can help with the relocation effort for the other templates. Greetings, Longbow4u 20:30, 24 April 2006 (UTC)

Pronouncing oggs[edit]

Hello, what program do you use to convert a sound file to ogg or record to it? --Pudeo 11:48, 30 May 2006 (UTC)

I use the free (as in freedom and in beer) program w:Audacity. Longbow4u 12:43, 30 May 2006 (UTC)

re: Mailing list discussion - appoint a legal adviser?[edit]

Hi Longbow4u. Thanks for taking the time to consider my idea. But I think you slightly misunderstand what kind of cases I want solved by lawyers. (And I linked to the wrong post on the Village pump! :o Instead, please read this one)

If a picture is less than 100 kb ("optimized for websites") and the uploader does not provide source information about author, making of, etc., instead puts it under public domain, then it is with 99,5% probability stolen. There are a lot of images of that type.

I know this already, every admin who has been here more than a week should know this. :) This is not the type of example I mean. I gave some examples in that correct post (linked above here). For example taking photos of "copyrighted" toys, this constantly comes up. As well as logos, is there any logo we could ever host here? Also some countries have laws about copyrighting buildings and public statues (a concept I find insane) - there is a lot of confusion about this. If you yourself take a photo of a building in the middle of a public street, is it possible the image is still not free?! Also how different countries' laws interact, ie. should we respect the law of Florida (where the Wikimedia servers are) & US law or the law of the country where it was taken? What if they contradict each other?

I just see these discussions again & again and I think it's silly that we are trying to solve all the problems of international copyright! We, who have no particular expertise whatsoever! There are people who could at least help us, at least occasionally. I don't plan to make them spend 24/7 deciding copyvios for us. At the moment it feels like we are arguing in the dark, and when someone turns the light on (the lawyers come in) we have no idea whether or not we will look foolish.

As for InstantCommons, I have been reading the discussions on foundation-l, there does seem to be a lot behind the scenes that is not being said, but I don't know anything specific about it. I agree it is very frustrating when you can see a great idea but it just gets lost when you try to implement it... actually I think that happens a lot in WM projects. It is hard...

I think it was actually the InstantCommons talk that made me think, hang on, how reliable ARE we, really? And that was when I counted the categories and came to 12,000. I thought up this idea when I kept reading the same debates on COM:DEL all the time, and think how sick and frustrated I am of not having any definite answers as to whether we're doing the right thing or not. I think to admit we are not sure what we're doing and we'd like some help, is better than just muddling along forever, repeating the same topics like mice in a wheel.

Perhaps we should announce to all the communities that they have 3 months to look for unsourced or improperly licenced images they have imported from the Commons, and if they are not properly licenced then, we purge those images once and for all and move on.

Great idea ;) But the projects won't go for it. Instead they would throw a fit and probably half of them would refuse to use the Commons any more and instead upload images locally. I don't think we can afford to push them that far.

But anyway, as I said, thanks for considering my ideas. I am happy for people to disagree with me, it's better than being ignored and maybe by discussing it we can think of a good solution in the meantime.

Regards, pfctdayelise (translate?) 15:06, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

Thank you for considering my ideas. I think we share most of the same concerns. I appreciate your effort, especially on the mailing list. I agree on most of your points. Or like Arnomane said (more or less): "People just throw their images over our wall and do not care anymore about proper licencing." That's most of the time it. I think there is a moment approaching when we as "Commoners" have to make some pretty unpopular decisions, like speedy delete our backlog. Even if we announce and communicate this widely, we will be the bad guys. If we do not, we perhaps start to doubt ourselves, and perhaps we will not dare to implement pretty revolutionary ideas, which could be potentially pretty important. But we should establish and insist more on our standards, like ask people to always use the Template:Information on new files, or if they do not use it, perhaps these files should be listed for deletion. We have the "First Steps", where everything is explained, in place in most of the major languages, the others will follow soon. I think it is time for a strategy debate. What are our minimum requirements? What are our objectives? To have a liaison officer to the WMF could be helpful. Perhaps we could vote for a Commoner spokes person, who could communicate our needs as the Commons community to the WMF, and speak in our voice. There are several people in this project very actively organizing our structure. Those could be possible candidates, if they are interested. We should debate the backlog issue, vote about it, and then perhaps we can act as one. I doubt the other projects would abandon us. We are too useful. Most of the problematic images are pretty dodgy anyway. Ok, it would be nice to have a lawyer to decide /give advice on some of the problem cases, like your examples. But I just do not think it is right not to be allowed to take pictures of any building in France, for example. If this is their law, than perhaps their law is most probably broken. We should work together with French wikipedians toward a modification of that law. Longbow4u 16:07, 12 June 2006 (UTC)
But we should establish and insist more on our standards, like ask people to always use the Template:Information on new files, or if they do not use it, perhaps these files should be listed for deletion. I think that's a bit radical, especially since it can't be easily multilingual (technical restraint). I think having it on Special:Upload has made it used a lot more often which is great.
I doubt the other projects would abandon us. We are too useful. Haha, I agree, but they do not. :) It has been threatened before. They would keep using our images of course, just not upload any more here.
If this is their law, than perhaps their law is most probably broken. We should work together with French wikipedians toward a modification of that law. That's EXTREMELY ambitious :) In the meantime, until that is solved, we still have to respect the law no matter how stupid it is. (BTW if you can make the government change the law then I also ask you to solve world peace. ;))
cheers, pfctdayelise (translate?) 00:18, 13 June 2006 (UTC)
As to template:information: That is indeed radical, therefore improbable. But I think I will take the time in the next months and ask people to more often use that template. I guess most just do not know, but if they see that it is important for us, perhaps some change their upload text. I did not use it, either, until recently, and now I have lots of pictures to change. Most of those have the required information, just arranged in a diffent fashion.
No.2: I remember the episode with the Dutch wikipedians protesting against the deletion of the png-Flags, or the Wikinewsians, who later said they enabled their proper upload. But in this cases the problem was that the images were properly licenced. They were deleted on the commons because of supposed redundancy. Also, this step was not announced in any meaningful way in these projects. Any mass deletion should be announced well in advance, perhaps with a site notice, in multiple languages. This would not be a regular thing to happen, just a one time effort to remove the worst cases of copyvios or not unknown files.
To No.3: Change the law: I agree that this is ambitious. But I would not place it on one level with reaching world peace. The supposed prohibition against taking pictures of buildings is perhaps a "Lex Eiffeltower", just intended to protect the artists of this installation, or the Louvre pyramid. I very much doubt that this was intended to prohibit fotos of all the other buildings. It was probably drafted with well intentions, but no one thought about the dramatic consequences. A law typically is not written in stone anymore (unmutable), but can be always be modified. This kind of prohibition is not prescribed by international treaties, like the Berne convention. In this case change would be difficult. Who would object to a change? Perhaps only very few people of the Eiffeltower company or the Louvre architects. They do not have meaningful support in the public. If Wikipedians would really want a change in this direction, this would be entirely possible after some campaigning. Stuff like this is not a short time objective. I would rather say a long term objective. But what would hinder us to define long term objectives or milestones we intend to reach? That is just some bytes on our servers. Greetings, :-) Longbow4u 07:57, 13 June 2006 (UTC)

Begrüßung[edit]

Hallo Longbow4u,
erstmal danke für Deine Begrüßung, sie kommt nur 1 Jahr zu spät ;-). --Martin 15:15, 13 June 2006 (UTC)

Jo, aber das Template enthält so viele nützliche Links, das kommt immer gut (zumal es erst kürzlich erweitert wurde). Habs mir auch auf die Seite gebappt. Wenn Du's nicht magst, ist ganz einfach zu entfernen. :-) Longbow4u 16:10, 13 June 2006 (UTC)

Commons:Media help[edit]

Bitte überschreib die Seite nicht einfach ersatzlos mit Seiten die weniger Information bieten, wenn dort bereits ein Haufen guter Info da ist. Optik ist nicht alles. Arnomane 20:05, 13 June 2006 (UTC)

Ich finde es jetzt viel übersichtlicher. Die allerwichtigsten Informationen sind weiterhin vorhanden. Ich habe noch einige weitere Überlegungen dazu angestellt, würde jetzt aber gerne wissen: Was stört Dich genau? Welche Informationen hältst Du für unverzichtbar. Schöne Grüße, Longbow4u 21:10, 13 June 2006 (UTC)
Hier mal ein Vergleich alt und neu. Longbow4u 21:14, 13 June 2006 (UTC)
P.P.S: Das Design stammt übrigens von User:Metoc, nicht von mir. Ich selbst hatte vor etwa sechs Monaten arge Schwierigkeiten, Ogg-Theora-Filmchen von den Commons anzuschauen. Mit dieser Hilfe hier wäre es mir ziemlich einfach möglich gewesen. Longbow4u 21:18, 13 June 2006 (UTC)
Pfctdayelise fand das Design auch gut, siehe User talk:Metoc. Longbow4u 21:35, 13 June 2006 (UTC)

And could you drop a translation request to the other village pumps, as you did so efficiently for the first steps. I could do it, too, but you are so well known and respected, probably the results would be better. I will check it in a couple of days. It was not so efficient - it took me like an hour. :/ And I think you are flattering me to do grunt work for you. :P pfctdayelise (translate?) 00:55, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

Ok, no, that was not my intention. So I will give it a try myself. The part about efficiency is true, though. You so well embody the translation effort underway, here. Greets, Longbow4u 07:56, 14 June 2006 (UTC)
It is also a question of validity. If you ask, it is almost an official design decision, because you approve. I hope you do. If I ask, it might be one who wants to push his own vanity project. That is not my intention. Longbow4u 08:19, 14 June 2006 (UTC)
template:welcome was my vanity project. ;) I don't think you should see me as any more "official" than anyone else, because I'm not! I don't always agree with people who have been here longer than me (still there are many) and I'm not always right. It turns out one of the best ways to get a translation is to directly ask someone for it, that's all I've found.
I do very much like the new look, but I still feel there are many more important messages that should be translated first, as listed in Commons:Help page maintenance. pfctdayelise (translate?) 08:26, 14 June 2006 (UTC)
I have planned to look into translating some of this pages to German, as well as the general Help contents page. Meanwhile, most Germans are able to read the "Alemannisch" version. I must say, that is impressive what Test-tools did. Until very recently, I was not aware that Alemannisch was even an official language, but thought it was merely kind of a German dialect. Longbow4u 08:42, 14 June 2006 (UTC)
Yes, I think some speakers of other European languages are rather bemused als: is so well supported, but that's what happens when you have volunteer translators. :) --pfctdayelise (translate?) 22:30, 15 June 2006 (UTC)
Meanwhile, the "Galego" language is also well underway, in some places even in front of Spanish and Portuguese. I wonder if Microsoft supports this languages. I still hope for Spoken Wikipedia articles in Alemannisch and Plattdütsch. That would be nice. I have to go to bed, tomorrow is a big day in Göttingen (with Jimbo :-) ) Good night, Longbow4u 22:40, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

I looked at them now BTW. I just made a couple of small corrections (whether the info is actually true, I can't say :)). Very good! pfctdayelise (translate?) 12:07, 21 June 2006 (UTC)

Sorry that I was not more active the last days. We had the Wikipedia Academy 2006 in Göttingen, and today I had an important exam, where I passed. I am so happy, and will have more time in the near future. Greetings, Longbow4u 15:35, 21 June 2006 (UTC)
Did you meet Jimbo?! :) pfctdayelise (translate?) 15:54, 21 June 2006 (UTC)
Ay, I did. It was great, and I was so excited. I met him standing in the library foyer on friday, and after the academy in an informal meetup with the Wikimedia Germany crew in a bar on saturday evening Image:Academy Jimbo Longbow.JPG. I was camera assistant during the two days. If you like, you can download Jimbo's speech on this site: de:Wikipedia:Academy/Mitschnitte. Pressekonferenz has also lots of English stuff. All is in Ogg, unfortunately a little bit too big for Commons, but generally compatible for later. :-) Longbow4u 19:33, 21 June 2006 (UTC)
Wa! Nice photo. How exciting. :) pfctdayelise (translate?) 02:01, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

Hi![edit]

Hi! Sorry, I don't understand, I not speak in English. Pero yo hablo español.

 :-) Bienvenido en Commons! Las mapas que has puesto en Commons no son the resoluciòn completa (vé el prefijo 800px-...). Eso no es ideal. Tienes que abrir las imagenes en la wikipedia de origen y eligir el enlaze debajo el imagen. Entonces cargas el imagen en resolución completa. Este imagen puedes guardar en tu disco duro y poner en Commons. Yo mismo comitía este error antes, hasta que lo entendí. Es tipico al principio del trabajo aqui en Commons. Además, puedes cambiar el "interface" al portugues. Elige el enlace "Preferences" y cambia el idioma al portugues (primer bloque). Ya esta. Lo está todo explicado en "Commons:Primeros pasos" Temo que la version portuguesa no es al día (up to date), y no contiene toda la información como la espanhola. Longbow4u 21:50, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
Talvez entiendes mejor la version Gallega de Commons:Primeiros pasos. Tenemos de todo. :-) Longbow4u 21:53, 3 July 2006 (UTC)

Ok! Espero que no sea incomodo, pero voy aconselhar-me com un brasileño, yo entiederé mejor. Mucho obrigado por tu ayuda! E buen trabajo!

João Felipe C.S 22:05, 3 July 2006 (UTC)

No, no, no eres imcomodo. Espero que leemos otra vez. Buena noche, Longbow4u 22:08, 3 July 2006 (UTC)

¿Puedes ayudarme?[edit]

He seguido tus instrucciones.

He leído los manuales.

He preguntado a otros usuarios

Pero no sé hacer vínculos transwiki

Muchas gracias Zósimo

He puesto la respuesta en tu página de discusión User talk:Ceresnet Longbow4u 22:21, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

Frankfurt[edit]

Dein Sounddatei für "Frankfurt am Main" enthält nur ein viel zu schnell gesprochenes "am Main" (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:De-Frankfurt_am_Main-pronunciation.ogg). Ich hab dort unter Diskusion vorgeschlagen, die Datei zu löschen. Wenn Du Zeit hast ein richtiges "Frankfurt am Main" aufzunehmen und hochzuladen, dann kannst Du meine Löschaufforderung löschen.

Wikipedia Deutschland: Benutzer:do_ut_des

Ich werde mich darum kümmern, falls noch niemand anderes es getan hat. Derzeit bin ich allerdings erkältet und heiser und kann es nicht machen. Longbow4u 21:43, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

Friedrich Wohler statue in Gottingen[edit]

Hello, I am a descendant of this scientist and wondered if you would please contact me at email adress. Thank you very much!

replied by email, Longbow4u 18:55, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

misplaced userpages?[edit]

Hi Longbow, maybe you want to move this into your userspace? Wikimedia Commons celebrate first anniversary, Wikimedia Commons inspires a torrent of creativity. cheers, pfctdayelise (说什么?) 12:03, 7 February 2007 (UTC)

Greetings pfctdayelise, the pages can now be deleted. I moved them to userspace. Longbow4u 13:18, 7 February 2007 (UTC)

Image Tagging Image:Arch.of.Titus-Sack.of.Jerusalem.JPG[edit]

(added some additional infos about the upload, I don't know if it is enough. I kept the unsourced template on image) Longbow4u 19:58, 19 February 2007 (UTC)

MiniAtlas fuer commons...[edit]

Hallo, du bist Du auch ein grosser geocoder. Es gibt jetzt ganz neu das Projekt Commons:Geocoding. Und als kleinen Bonus gibts jetzt auch einen WikiMiniAtlas fuer commons. Hier ist eine demo Seite. Hat noch ein paar Bugs aber im Prinzip gehts... --Dschwen 18:33, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

SUUUPER! Du glaubst gar nicht wie lange ich mir das schon gewünscht habe! Vielen Dank für den Hinweis. Ich werde natürlich auch weiterhin Bilder kodieren, wenn ich sie sehe und den Ort kenne. Schöne Grüße, Longbow4u 21:35, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

Image:De-Erwin Rommel-pronunciation.ogg[edit]

Can you please change the template of copyright of this file? Thank you. Chanueting 06:01, 25 May 2007 (UTC)

done Longbow4u 15:06, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
Thanks. I suggest that you should check the files you uploaded and change the tag if you have time. Chanueting 12:19, 31 May 2007 (UTC)

Freie Vereinigung deutscher Gewerkschaften/Free Association of German Trade Unions[edit]

Hallo Longbow4u,

Ich schreibe bei der englischsprachigen Wikipedia als Carabinieri mit. Du hast schon Aufnahmen der Namen von verschiedenen Artikeln hochgeladen, Bundesrepublik Deutschland und Hannover z.B. Ich wollte dich fragen, ob du dazu bereit wärst, ähnliches für den Artikel über die Freie Vereinigung deutscher Gewerkschaften zu tun. Ich habe das mehrmals selber versucht, das was dabei raus kam, klang aber eher schrecklich.

Wäre echt nett, wenn du die Zeit findest.

Grüße,

Carabinieri

Ok, kann ich machen. Grüße, Longbow4u 10:42, 21 August 2007 (UTC)
Vielen Dank, Carabinieri

Image:De-Freie.Vereinigung.Deutscher.Gewerkschaften-pronunciation.ogg Ich bearbeite in Audacity die Klangdatei mit dem Werkzeug Rauschentfernung nach, Stufe 1. Wichtig ist dabei, eine Stelle zu markieren, an der man nicht spricht, damit das Tool das bloße Hintergrundrauschen erkennen kann. Wenn man stattdessen das ganze Sample markiert und dann Rauschentfernung drückt, klingt es blechern. Am Anfang des Samples ist ein paar Sekunden Stille, da der Wikimediaplayer etwas verzögert startet. Grüße, Longbow4u 21:17, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

Das klingt gut. Danke nochmals, Carabinieri

Image:LitvinenkoGrave.JPG[edit]

Information added to image. The information also appears in the article on Alexander Litvinenko, Regards, --JohnArmagh (talk) 09:45, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

Larger than 20MB files[edit]

Hello Longbow4u. I was wondering how you uploaded larger than 20MB files to Commons. (Example Image:051118-WSIS.2005-Bruce.Perens.ogg). Isn't 20MB the limit for the size of the files, or was the limit higher in 2006? Thanks --Kimse (talk) 07:07, 3 August 2008 (UTC)

I talked to a Mediawiki developer and told him that I had a freely licensed video which I would like to have on Commons, so he uploaded it for me under my username. Longbow4u (talk) 14:08, 3 August 2008 (UTC)
The reason I asked, is that I'm curious if Commons would host a 300-600Mb file of freely licensed cartoons Image:Big Buck Bunny Trailer 400p.ogg and Elephants Dream. I'd like to know if the administrators would think it is outside of the scope of this project or not. --Kimse (talk) 21:28, 5 August 2008 (UTC)
I think this is atm not generally desired because of the associated high bandwidth costs. However, there are ongoing discussions about expansion of video content on Wikimedia projects. See the collaboration with Kaltura. If you want a more definite answer, you could ask Wikimedia Foundation 1st Officer Erik Möller (Eloquence) on Commons, En.wp etc. Perhaps he can help you or answer your questions. Greetings, Longbow4u () 11:56, 6 August 2008 (UTC)
All right, thanks Longbow4u. I'll ask Erik what he thinks about this. --Kimse (talk) 22:45, 8 August 2008 (UTC)

Please help replace this outdated license[edit]

Hello!

Thank you for donating images to the Wikimedia Commons. You have uploaded some images in the past with the license {{PD}}. While this was a license acceptable in the early days of Wikimedia, since January 2006, this license has been deprecated and since October 2008 no new uploads with this license was allowed.

The license on older images should be replaced with a better and more specific license/permissions and you can help by checking the images and adding {{PD-self}} if you are the author or one of the other templates that you can see in the template on the image page.

Thank you for your help. If you need help feel free to ask at Commons talk:Licensing or contact User:Zscout370.

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Fotos St. Johannis Göttingen[edit]

Hallo, ich bin Journalist und möchte gerne die Fotos von der St. Johannis-Kirche in Göttingen nutzen. Welchen Quellenhinweis soll ich angeben? Am besten Vor- und Nachname. Gerne auch per Mail an tom_brsg@yahoo.de. Vielen Dank!

Hallo Tom, als Quellenhinweis bitte "Longbow4u" oder "Longbow4u/Wikimedia Commons". Longbow4u (talk) 18:11, 16 June 2010 (UTC)

OpenStreetMap[edit]

Hallo Longbow4u; vielleicht kannst du zu meiner Frage auf COM:VP, wo ich u.a. auf einen früheren Beitrag von dir Bezug nehme, ein Statement zur aktuellen Situation bzw. deiner Einschätzung abgeben? Schon mal vielen Dank im Voraus! Gestumblindi (talk) 15:16, 1 August 2010 (UTC)


Hallo Longbow4u,
hättest du etwas gegen die Löschung von File:Bonny, Anne.JPG (Begründung dort) einzuwenden? --Túrelio (talk) 15:00, 7 April 2011 (UTC)

Nein, fire away! :-) Longbow4u (talk) 15:21, 7 April 2011 (UTC)

Das Template "Building adress"[edit]

Zu Hülf'! Sind es diese Änderungen, die meine Bildbeschreibungen zerschießen, in denen ich die Gebäudeadressen-Vorlage (Nun "Gebaüde") verwende? Ist das in Deinem Sinn? Meine Französisch-Kenntnisse sind nicht verhandlungssicher - magst Du den Menschen (Zolo) stoppen? Danke & Gruß --Sir James (talk) 08:40, 8 October 2011 (UTC) Nachtrag: ich habe Zolo mal auf englisch angequatscht. Gruß --Sir James (talk) 09:01, 8 October 2011 (UTC)

Ja Verzeihung, I habe das Modell für einige Minuten gebrochen. Das ist jetzt behoben. Änderungen waren doch notwendig um Internationaliesierug zu verbessern. Es wird auch in der Dokumentation angedeutet, dass das Modell mit {{information}} besser integriert werden könnte. Ist [1] besser ?--Zolo (talk) 11:05, 8 October 2011 (UTC)
Dies is auch mögligh.--Zolo (talk) 12:23, 8 October 2011 (UTC)

Hello does the look or~the code of [2] look bad to you ? Actually I have realized that this style could be used in every file without breaking things, so the 'Style' parameter would not be useful and it would be as easy to use as now. The code would alsothus be much easier to customize by country and could be usable in templates like {{institution}}.--Zolo (talk) 08:51, 15 October 2011 (UTC)

Could you also elaborate on Openstreetmap requirements. I thought thay we should try to use their words but from what I see on [3] there are "street" "housenumber" and "postcode" rather than "Street name" "House number" and "Postal code". There are "province" and "district" but not "State". Cheers.--Zolo (talk) 06:52, 19 October 2011 (UTC)
Hello Zolo, I agree with the inclusion in the information template. Regarding openstreetmap the parameter title is in my opinion not important, but the content of the parameter. I would like if someone would programm a webpage where I could enter the street name and the city, and I would be shown all the buildings from this street with a link to a slide show (Steinstraße 1, Steinstraße 3 etc.), perhaps with a small map at the site showing the location. The parameter "addr:state" is used in OSM in Germany. Longbow4u (talk) 07:55, 23 October 2011 (UTC)
Okay. I dont know how to make slideshows but you co::uld try to take advantage of the currently advertised slideshow coding challenge :)?--Zolo (talk) 08:05, 23 October 2011 (UTC)
Oh another question does the "addr:state" use state codes "NR" for Nortrine Westphalia etc or plain language ?--Zolo (talk) 08:07, 23 October 2011 (UTC)
They use plain language (as in language of the place) - e.g. German word "Hessen" instead of English word "Hesse". Regarding slide shows and tools there are people in wikipedia who could make use of the address data. See for example this page from Wiki loves monuments in Austria List. If you click on the link "ObjektID", you see a similar tool, but linked to the monument ID instead of the address ID. Example ObjektID:40881. Longbow4u (talk) 08:15, 23 October 2011 (UTC)
Nice! Do you know if Austria and US use state parameter the same way in Openstreemap ?--Zolo (talk) 08:51, 23 October 2011 (UTC)
I don't know, but I am pretty sure they are used the same way. Longbow4u (talk) 09:03, 23 October 2011 (UTC)
So I'll chanhe to documentation. Is this the "Key:is_in" it is written that it is controversial (it should be easy to machine detect on a map software), but I guess it can be useful for Wikipedia since we dont have integrated map. I see a area parameter. Is this the same ?--Zolo (talk) 09:48, 23 October 2011 (UTC)
I don't think that the "is_in" parameter is used widely. Longbow4u (talk) 10:24, 23 October 2011 (UTC)

hallo longbow4[edit]

I like the voice In Albert speer. I just need another german voice to Albert_Kesselring

thanks in advance.--Neogeolegend (talk) 03:12, 28 August 2012 (UTC)

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