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--Banfield - Amenazas aquí 12:31, 27 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Y que tiene que ver con la imagen! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Setincho (talk • contribs) 20:49, 29 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

File source is not properly indicated: File:Entorno organizacional.png

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Source of derivative work is not properly indicated: File:Ec empresa 11.jpg

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—‍Mdaniels5757 (talk • contribs) 17:40, 12 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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@LMLM La imagen no viola nada está por todos lados.... Siempre en cosas improductivas.
https://www.planetanewells.com/escudos/
https://www.ole.com.ar/newells-old-boys/newells-mejores-escudos-100-top_0_VNX6YF8kVO.html
https://www.instagram.com/football.rebrand/p/ClOwpaduy16/?img_index=2
http://www.pionerodelfutbol.com/2014/11/heraldica-del-club-atletico-newells-old.html
https://soccerstore.empretienda.com.ar/futbol-argentino/remera-escudos-newells-old-boys-los-leprosos
https://www.facebook.com/612041379277838/photos/a.612044632610846/1044342639381041/?type=3 Setincho (talk) 23:23, 23 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Reclamaciones, «conversaciones burocráticas patéticas» y «cosas improductivas» aquí. Gracias. LMLM (talk) 07:58, 24 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Hola, @Setincho: Como he mencionado en el historial, «no se ha indicado la fuente de donde fue tomada la imagen y, si hay información posible, de su autor, es decir, su fotógrafo», debe comprenderse que mi intención no era dar a entender una necesidad absoluta de los detalles del fotógrafo, sino que expreso que dicha información debe proporcionarse si está disponible. Cuando usted etiqueta una imagen como proveniente de su propia fuente, esto implica que usted es el autor del contenido, es decir, el fotógrafo. Sin embargo, dado el contexto histórico de estas fotografías, que datan de hace más de varios años atrás, está claro que esta suposición no es válida en este caso. De hecho, las imágenes antes mencionadas pueden pertenecer al dominio público; sin embargo, la falta de atribución hace inconcebible determinar su autenticidad o confirmar si se han aplicado modificaciones. Es necesario, como en este archivo, especificar la fuente original del contenido. Le agradecería si pudiera agregar información a estos parámetros o tendré que agregar la etiqueta «sin fuente desde» antes del 7 de julio para su eliminación. Si usted tiene alguna duda, escríbame e intentaré responderle lo más rápido posible. Saludos. nicolas talkpage★★★ 07:32, 8 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hola @Thooompson desconozco el fotógrafo. Yo las heredé de mi padre, y este no se de donde las sacó. Más que poner la plantilla fijate si podés subsanar el punto específico con esta info.que he brindado, que definitivamente es algo más productivo. Sldos. Setincho (talk) 11:38, 8 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hola, @Setincho: El punto sigue siendo el mismo para mí, ya que no hay información sobre dónde se publicaron originalmente y, según su mensaje, su padre no era el fotógrafo, por lo que no pueden ser utilizados con la etiqueta «PD-heirs» (puestos en dominio público por el descendiente del autor). Si lo desea, puedo llevar la discusión al café para lograr un poco más de consenso al respecto; alternativamente, mi opinión es volver a agregar la plantilla, porque sin autor, fecha o fuente es difícil saber algo sobre las fotografías. Sin embargo, es posible que otros usuarios tengan más conocimientos sobre las imágenes o el mejor proceso para estos casos o tipos de imágenes relacionadas con Argentina. Al mismo tiempo, espero que usted pueda comunicarse de manera más profesional; Le doy mi tiempo para expresar mi punto de vista y poder llegar a un acuerdo con usted; esto no es improductivo, ni soy un «jilguero» ni un «flaco». Saludos. nicolas talkpage★★★ 14:20, 8 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Thooompson Si es improductivo o no, es subjetivo. "no hay información sobre dónde se publicaron originalmente" ¿Por qué Ud. presupone publicación original? Son fotos que mi padre tenía, que seguramente algún fotógrafo le ha hecho llegar de algún juego original. Es decir, la fuente o archivo soy yo; aclarando que no conozco el nombre del fotógrafo.
Creo que esto despeja cualquier duda, aunque no soy quién para decirle a Ud. Sldos. Setincho (talk) 15:18, 8 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Setincho: Menciono sobre la publicación original porque usted no es la primera persona en publicar estas fotografías; Por ejemplo, el archivo Claudio Newell, intendente.jpg parece haber sido cortado de un periódico desconocido (ver aquí), por lo tanto dudo que no haya sido publicado antes, o que haya sido entregado sólo a su padre. Pero, como dije anteriormente, el autor no es tan importante como la fecha o una fuente que especifique su publicación para indicar que es de dominio público, pero usted no puede subirlas bajo una licencia Creative Commons únicamente porque usted es la fuente; No es lo mismo ser coleccionista de cromos que ser el creador de los cromos. Como mencioné, si desea puedo trasladar esto al café y posiblemente la respuesta a este tema se vuelve más clara. Saludos. nicolas talkpage★★★ 16:10, 8 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Thooompson Yo no puedo responder por imágenes de otros, publicadas en ciertos lugares. Luego Ud. está citando a una revista públicamente conocida; que no tiene nada que ver con una foto. Fíjese Ud. que me ha dicho que la foto no podía ser mía por la antigüedad de la misma, pero sin embargo sí se la atribuye a un medio digital creado en 2011. ¿Cómo es eso posible? Le agrego más, puede haber varias imágenes iguales en circulación, ya que el fotógrafo pudo revelar varias de la misma foto. ¿Entonce Ud. cómo hace para demostrar el origen de la imagen, desconociendo el fotógrafo? ¿A qué medio tiene ganas de atribuírsela?
De mi parte creo haber respondido a sus interrogantes iniciales, todo lo demás ya lo veo sin justificación ni sentido. Pero disponga Ud. si la quiere llevar al Café o donde le parezca. Sldos. Setincho (talk) 18:00, 8 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Setincho: En primer lugar, no cité ninguna revista conocida; Como mencione anteriormente, lo más probable es que provenga de un periódico que yo desconozco. Al mismo tiempo, no lo atribuí a la página de Facebook; más bien es un enlace para que usted pueda ver que fue publicado previamente en las redes sociales, razonando que la imagen no le fue entregada unicamente a su padre. En ningún momento mencioné que atribuía el derecho de la imagen a esa página. Y, si bien es posible que el autor haya cedido una o más imágenes a numerosos periódicos, se trata de un asunto más complicado que conviene confirmar antes de poder discutirlo. Y usted no me ha dado una razón para creer que este sea el caso. Como no hemos llegado a un acuerdo, lo trasladaré al café, hoy o mañana cuando tenga tiempo. Saludos. nicolas talkpage★★★ 18:28, 8 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Thooompson Pero discúlpeme! ¿A mi por qué debería importarme si 20 personas o medios han publicado imagen idéntica o similar previamente?
¿Le reitero la consulta, Ud. a quién tiene ganas de atribuírsela? Si no, colóquele Ud. una fuente y autor que le satisfaga y listo. A mi, mientras no se quite la foto mediante actos improductivos, me da igual quien figure como fuente y autor, realmente. Sldos. Setincho (talk) 18:37, 8 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Setincho: Mencioné las razones por las que incluí el enlace y por qué creo que las fotografías no fueron entregadas solo a su padre, y tal vez no fueron entregadas a su padre en absoluto según sus comentarios anteriores. El hecho de que las imágenes hayan sido publicadas en otro lugar, debilitando la teoría de su autoría, y que también puedan ser eliminadas, según el contexto que he dado, creo que debería importarle. Voy a trasladar el tema al café para ver si se resuelve mediante búsqueda de fuentes o consenso, a menos que usted tenga una resolución o un mensaje que quiera dar. Saludos. nicolas talkpage★★★ 23:35, 8 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Thooompson Veo que Ud. presume mala fe de mi parte. Dado eso, no tengo nada más que agregar. Ya le he contado la historia, pero Ud. se niega a aceptarla. ¿Le reitero la consulta, Ud. a quién tiene ganas de atribuírsela? Busque una fuente que le guste y colóquela, de mi parte ya le he dicho que no hay problema. Sldos. Setincho (talk) 00:22, 9 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Setincho: No presumo mala fe de su parte respecto a estas imágenes, he respondido ampliamente con mis pensamientos, no me he negado a aceptar su historia, pero la he refutado. Sólo se sabe que su padre obtuvo las imágenes de alguna manera, y eso es todo, todo lo demás de su historia es un tal vez, todo esto según lo que usted ha escrito. Ya le he dado mis opciones recomendadas, mis pensamientos, mi tiempo, si presumiera mala fe de usted, no creo que deba hacer tanto para intentar llegar a un consenso con usted. Respecto a su pregunta, no sé a quién atribuir las imágenes, le agradecería que me pudiera ayudar con esto que es lo que vengo intentando transmitir, una fuente y estaré satisfecho. Pero mañana veré si puedo encontrar algunas fuentes o no, así que no trasladaré el tema al café por el momento, pero seguramente me comunicaré con usted nuevamente, y luego puede que sea necesario trasladarlo al café si no se encuentran fuentes a algunas imágenes. Saludos. nicolas talkpage★★★ 00:48, 9 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Thooompson Como le dije la fuente y el autor soy yo; con eso debería bastar. Pero como también le he dicho, me da lo mismo que figure cualquier fuente. Por esta foto que Ud. ha mencionado ya he colocado otra fuente. Luego iré viendo de las otras, que no sea yo la fuente (de existir otra), aunque lo sea. No quiero que la comunidad se perturbe, aún sin justificativo. Sldos. Setincho (talk) 01:23, 9 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Thooompson ¿Cómo le va? Ahí he realizado algunos cambios. Me dirá Ud. si lo considera más satisfactorio, respecto de lo anterior. Sldos. Setincho (talk) 13:48, 9 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hola, @Setincho: Agregué fuentes a algunas imágenes porque no me gustó cómo decía "archivo particular" en la mayoría de ellas. He incluido fuentes a las fotografías en cuestión que, a pesar de no encontrar publicaciones periodísticas, dada la antigüedad de ellas, que superan los 120 años, asumo que están en el dominio público y modifico sus licencias en consecuencia. Las fuentes añadidas pueden confirmar la validez de las imágenes, confirmándolas como genuinas y sin modificaciones. Aunque estas fuentes no son perfectas, son suficientes para mí y pueden aliviar posibles inquietudes de otros usuarios, es posible que otras personas tengan puntos de vista opuestos y deseen entablar una discusión sobre los archivos antes mencionados. Especialmente sobre los siguientes dos archivos para los cuales no pude encontrar una fuente: File:Edificio Colegio Comercial Anglo Argentino, Rosario.png y File:Espacio deportivo del Colegio Comercial Anglo Argentino.png. Pero en mi opinión estoy satisfecho con la información actual que hay en los archivos, me parece mucho mejor que la información anterior, y no tendría ningún problema en terminar la discusión así, a su vez agradezco que usted agregue la fuente de File:Claudio Newell, intendente.jpg, porque parece una muy buena fuente la que usted uso. Yo puedo dar la discusión como finalizada a menos que usted quiera preguntar algo o seguir con el mismo tema. Saludos. nicolas talkpage★★★ 18:36, 9 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Thooompson Bueno, como le dije no tengo inconveniente con cambiar la fuente si a la gente le parece mejor otra en vez de la mía particular. Así que procedo a cambiarla en esos dos archivos que Ud. señala, pero lamentablemente no tengo fuente de terceros de la calidad como la del archivo File:Claudio Newell, intendente.jpg. Queda cerrado el tema. Sldos. Setincho (talk) 22:05, 9 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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