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File:Eurovoyager-arriving-Almeria.jpg

Added the required licensing data to

Eurovoyager-arriving-Almeria.jpg

. As it is entirely own work there would be no problem with copyrights.

Vereiste licentie-info toegevoegd aan foto Eurovoyager-arriving-Almeria.jpg. Aangezien het geheel eigen werk is zou dit zo voldoende moeten zijn. Snap overigens niet waardoor deze zonder licentie-info op commons is gekomen,volgens mij vereist de pagina dat je licensing info toevoegt. Als je daar een antwoord op hebt zeer welkom. Tonkie (talk) 01:02, 1 August 2010 (UTC)

edit request

Hi, can I ask you as an admin to make an edit to my template User:Benjamint444/license for me (it's protected), I just wish to replace the old text email address with an image version for spam reasons. I have already done so at Template:Benjamint5D. Thanks a lot in advance Benjamint 05:58, 1 August 2010 (UTC)

[[File:Benjamint444-userspace-tag.jpg|242px|Email me to negotiate terms of use]]

Just replace "...@yahoo.com.au" with the line above.

Hoe ziet jouw bot wanneer het een Rijksmonument is

Ik zag dat bij een aantal foto's van mij de template Rijksmonument is toegevoegd. Een vraag uit nieuwsgierigheid. Hoe weet de bot dat het een rijksmonument is en ook nog welk? Bedankt alvast voor het antwoord. Wouter (talk) 06:08, 2 August 2010 (UTC)

Neem bijvoorbeeld File:Church eemnes NL.jpg. Deze is in gebruik op nl:Lijst van rijksmonumenten in Eemnes. Die informatie heb ik ook in een database staan dus dan kan ik vrij gemakkelijk de link leggen tussen een foto en een nummer. Multichill (talk) 07:22, 2 August 2010 (UTC)
Bedankt! Een zeer elegante methode. Wouter (talk) 14:41, 2 August 2010 (UTC)

Can you do this for me?

Hello Multichill, thanks for the vote! I made a list of files selected from larger categories which need cat refinement, see User:Havang(nl)/List 1. Can your bot make these changes. If so, there is more to come. Does your bot still run populate category? I prepared a few of these also. Greetings, --Havang(nl) (talk) 16:32, 2 August 2010 (UTC)

The bot has run without succes. The other list I have withdrawn, we'll cut that categories in pieces. --Havang(nl) (talk) 09:26, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

Move from Commons, looking for a better means

Occasionally we have the requirement to remove files from Commons to one of the sister sites due to copyright, yet we don't have a tool to undertake such activities. When it is a file that affects enWikisource, like Commons:Deletion requests/Some illustrations from Rothschild's Extinct Birds it is not user friendly with available tools, eg. we can import the file wrapper, though not the file itself. Do you know of a means to make this happen more smoothly, or are we condemned to downloading and then reuploading the file at Wikisource via manual means? Thanks.  — billinghurst sDrewth 02:17, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

Hey, I noticed this discussion, chiming in — sorry for intruding...
On fr.wp, User:Coyau set up a bot (fr:User:Le plus bot) to move easily some unfree images (no-FOP buildings) from Commons to WP. The bot needs admin rights to do so. Apparently, programming the bot was not really difficult. You could contact Coyau to know more on this. Sincerly, Jean-Fred (talk) 10:24, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
Thanks, no need to be sorry. I am sure Multichill likes all respite. :-) I will do as you suggested.  — billinghurst sDrewth 15:44, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

Custom upload form for Dutch Wiki loves monuments

Try this one. Does that do what you had envisioned? Once it does what you want it to do, we can integrate the script so that the "withJS" parameter is no longer necessary.

Note that some more fiddling around with the Help message texts is needed. Currently, the help text for the description field instructs the user to enter an {{information}} template, but that's exactly what he or she shouldn't do. And the help for the license is also misleading.

Tested on monobook only; please try also the vector skin.

Note that if an error or a warning occurs and the servers send back the upload form instead of doing the upload, the license selection will be lost. That appears to be a problem on the server-side: it loses the "uselang" parameter in that case!

Still, I think this might be a workable approach. Let me know if you want any changes you can't do yourself. Lupo 18:05, 19 July 2010 (UTC)

Hi Lupo, thanks for spending time on this. Some feedback:
  • Samenvatting might be a bit big, it should use the "description" translation and field
  • The box with all the buttons can be removed
  • License should just be set (hidden), don't prompt the user for it
  • Could you add a "rijksmonumentnummer" field? It's a unique id on which I can fetch information from a database (maybe later with some more js magic)
Multichill (talk) 19:46, 19 July 2010 (UTC)
The form is based on the basic upload form. "Samenvatting" does use the "description" translation and field. The edittools box with all the button is standard; I could hide it, but why? Hiding the license is easily doable. About the "rijksmonumentnummer" field: I could add that, but there'd be no help for it, and it'd have a hard-coded text label. Also, should the input in that field be validated? If so, how? And what is the script supposed to do with the value upon submit? If you want to fetch information automatically from an external database, that's pretty easy to do within the upload form script itself if that database has a JSONP interface: make the monument number mandatory (and maybe even the only input field?), then let the script fetch the info and fill in the {{information}} automatically. Lupo 09:23, 20 July 2010 (UTC)
Why hide the box? Not useful.
Rijksmonumentnummer can be hardcoded for now. It should be an integer. Automatic fetching sounds pretty cool. Multichill (talk) 11:02, 20 July 2010 (UTC)
If there is a JSONP interface, automatic fetching is indeed very cool. I fooled around with this for the "fromflickr" form, and it works really well, but it isn't live yet.
Which button box did you mean when you wrote it should be removed? The edittools or the "watch this"/"ignore errors"? Lupo 13:59, 20 July 2010 (UTC)
OTOH, if you were thinking about using the RCE KICH dataset, it's probably easier if you download that dataset and then use a bot to add the infos. (But I notice that they don't say what the license for this dataset, and in particular for the descriptions in there, is. The geoinformation would be PD, I presume.) Alternatively, we could try to extract the info via JS from rijksmonumenten.wikia.com, but I don't know how complete that wiki is. Lupo 09:41, 20 July 2010 (UTC)
Been there, done that :-) See nl:Categorie:Lijsten van rijksmonumenten for all the nice lists at nlwp. I read these in a database (toolserveer p_erfgoed_p.monumenten) each night. Current output is only available in kml voor Google Earth at http://toolserver.org/~erfgoed/monumenten_op_de_kaart/ , but more is planned. Shouldn't be too hard to output JSON format. Multichill (talk) 11:02, 20 July 2010 (UTC)
JSONp, i.e., with the possibility to specify a callback function in the request (&format=json&callback=window.MyFunc), an getting back not a naked JS object but a JS call "window.MyFunction({...});". Then the script can use an importScriptURI to invoke the interface without triggering any cross-domain restrictions from JS. Lupo 13:59, 20 July 2010 (UTC)
But before we go to the more advanced part, let's first fix the basic part.
I think with these fixes the basic version is ready. Multichill (talk) 15:05, 1 August 2010 (UTC)
For the basic it looks fine with the things Multichill mentioned. I do think the license have to be mentioned at the upload form, but it should not be a dropdown-menu so it seems selectable. Akoopal (talk) 15:22, 1 August 2010 (UTC)
Rijksmonumentnummer field added, special chars box removed, description field made smaller (two lines; one line may behave strangely since it's a multi-line input field (textarea)). I'll leave the license drop-down as is. To see the changes, go to the form and then reload your browser's cache. Lupo 08:01, 9 August 2010 (UTC)
Looks great Lupo. Thanks for you work. Less is more! :-) Some smaller points:
  • I need to update "Oorspronkelijke bestandsnaam:Hulp"
  • Could you please remove "Maximale bestandsgrootte: 100 MB (een bestand op uw computer)"? I'll put it in the help message
  • Could you please remove "Toegelaten bestandstypes: png, gif, jpg, jpeg, xcf, mid, ogg, ogv, svg, djvu, tif, tiff, oga. "? I'll put it in the help message
  • Could you please add a help icon after "Rijksmonumentnummer:" with some message I can fill?
  • I need to update "Samenvatting:Hulp"
  • The "Licentie" line with the drop down menu needs to be removed (like Akoopal mentioned).
  • I need to add translation for hotcat
  • Is it possible to already have one category (Category:Rijksmonumenten) prefilled in hotcat?
Multichill (talk) 20:36, 9 August 2010 (UTC)
I have some trouble finding the right messages to edit for the help messages. What do I need to edit? Multichill (talk) 16:06, 22 August 2010 (UTC)
That whole upload form stuff was never meant to be used that way. You can't override just a few individual help texts from the /nl messages for /nlwikilovesmonuments, which is what we'd like to have. So you'll have to set up the full set of /nlwikilovesmonuments messages, setting all of them to just transclude the corresponding /nl message. Then set MediaWiki:Uploadfooter/nlwikilovesmonuments to contain the transclusion "{{MediaWiki:UploadFormTexts|live=1|lang=nl|useform=wikilovesmonuments}}". A full list of messages is visible at MediaWiki:UploadFormTexts. The messages actually used on the WLM form are then
I'll go add a help button for the Rijksmonumentnummer, but adding an extra message for this is a bit overkill. How about just using a message that won't be used normally on this WLM form, like MediaWiki:UploadFormAdditionalInfoHelp/nlwikilovesmonuments? Lupo 19:27, 24 August 2010 (UTC)
I created/updated the above messages and changed MediaWiki:Uploadfooter/nlwikilovesmonuments. Is that all correct now? Multichill (talk) 19:48, 24 August 2010 (UTC)
I don't know what happened, but the upload form just broke. How to fix this? Multichill (talk) 10:26, 25 August 2010 (UTC)

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Pictogram voting keep.svg Fixed - Sorry, I forgot to load the script. –Krinkletalk 13:47, 25 August 2010 (UTC)
This starting to look really nice. Some leftover points:
  • I tried to remove some messages by making them empty, that didn't really work. The allowed file types and size messages need to go.
  • Missing help button for Rijksmonumentnummer needs to be added
  • Licentie help jumps to top
  • The categoy "Rijksmonumenten" is red?
Multichill (talk) 18:49, 25 August 2010 (UTC)
I think it's all done now. I can't remove the license selector, that'll make other stuff fails (for instance, the placement of the license help text). So I just disabled that selector; it's re-enabled just before submitting, otherwise, it's value won't be submitted. Lupo 20:17, 29 August 2010 (UTC)
Thanks Lupo, this looks great. Now it just needs to be enabled (no withjs) so I can add it to Commons:Upload/nl and people can start uploading. I noticed you reverted Krinkle's edits. Was that on purpose? He pre-filled hotcat and tweaked the fields a bit. Multichill (talk) 19:48, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
Nope, that wasn't intentional. I hadn't noticed that he had edited the page and just copied a temporary file from my computer over his version. Anyway, I've re-incorporated his changes (pre-setting the category can be done with a single function call, though). Please test again; then I'll enable it in MediaWiki:Common.js. Lupo 21:10, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
We were looking for that function! Thanks for improving it. Upload form looks awesome now! Just did a test and all seems to work well. Multichill (talk) 21:51, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
✓ Done It's enabled. Lupo 20:41, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
Lol, dupe! Multichill (talk) 20:43, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
O, btw, this probably also prevents caching problems (new page). Multichill (talk) 20:44, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
Hm. I forgot about our wgUserLanguage magic in Common.js. Anyway, since people can normally switch off the whole upload form script stuff through JSconfig, mine isn't completely redundant. And of course you're right about the caching. Lupo 20:54, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

Self

Hoi Multi, ik zie net dat je je onlangs nog met Template:Self bezig hebt gehouden. Met dit sjabloon speelt een taalkundig probleempje: indien de naam van de maker is ingevuld (bv. {{self|author=Pietje Puk|<licentie>}}), resulteert dat in de introtekst "Pietje Puk, the copyright holder of this work, hereby publish it under the following license" en dat is natuurlijk krom Engels. Zie jij kans om dat te fixen? Groet, Wutsje (talk) 01:30, 31 July 2010 (UTC)

Dat van de week aangepast, maar moet nog naar de produktiesoftware worden overgezet. Dat kan nog wel eventjes duren, maar dan is het echt opgelost. Multichill (talk) 07:49, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
Ha, fijn. Dank, ook aan Siebrand. Groet, Wutsje (talk) 23:51, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
✓ Done met dank aan Roan. Multichill (talk) 11:11, 6 August 2010 (UTC)

Nowcommons tool

Hi Multichill. I like your Nowcommons tool. What about adding the number of such images found in a project? Or would this query waste a lot of computing time? --Leyo 12:41, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

That query takes quite a while. I can't just run it on the fly, would have to cache it. So not that easy to implement. Multichill (talk) 20:25, 9 August 2010 (UTC)
OK, thanks for the answer. --Leyo 16:50, 10 August 2010 (UTC)

Batch uploading of population distributions

Hi, I've uploaded a bunch of population distributions to show that my bot is working properly. See, for example, this sample or the whole lot. Could you have a look at the files and say if it is alright for me to proceed with uploading? Claymore (talk) 19:22, 4 August 2010 (UTC)

Looks very good! I see you also started Commons:Batch uploading/Population distributions of Japan. I'll comment over there. Multichill (talk) 17:56, 6 August 2010 (UTC)

Rm'n en buildings

Hoi Multi, niet alle rijksmonumenten zijn buildings, er zitten ook straatklokken, siervazen, rolpalen, fonteinen, standbeelden enz enz bij. Daarom lijkt het me niet correct om de rm-cats overal onder te brengen in Buildings in ...-cats. Wat de provincie Groningen betreft heb ik dat zojuist gefixt (=de cat één nivo hoger gebracht), maar als dat in andere provincies ook zo is gedaan, dan moet dat daar ook nog even worden veranderd. Groet, Wutsje (talk) 04:27, 7 August 2010 (UTC)

Op Commons gebruiken we de "Buildings" boom in de breedste zin van het woord dus eigenlijk zoals bouwwerken op nlwp of Buildings and structures op enwp. Rijksmonumenten vallen dan prima onder buildings. Multichill (talk) 08:59, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
Kom op zeg, een straatklok of een siervaas is geen building, die Commons-definitie klopt gewoon niet. Zie Van Dale EN-NL: bouwwerk, bouwsel, pand, huis en Oxford Reference Dictionary: a permanent built structure that can be entered (onderstreping van mij). Ik moet de eerste siervaas, straatklok, standbeeld rolpaal, fontein etc nog zien die je van binnen kunt betreden en niemand zal op het idee komen om zulke objecten in een buildings-cat te zoeken. Sowieso begrijp ik sommige bewerkingen die je met je botje doet niet. Zo had je twee foto's van de rm'n 20285 en 514056 uit de Category:Rijksmonumenten in Glimmen naar de Category:Rijksmonumenten in Haren, Groningen verplaatst (gefixt), terwijl die toch echt in Glimmmen staan - wat de laatste foto betreft had ik daar nota bene de camera location bij gezet. Wutsje (talk) 16:18, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
De dingen die jij opnoemt zijn allemaal structures. Die staan op Commons in Nederland altijd in de building boom net zoals buildings en structures op de enwp. Zie bijvoorbeeld Category:Buildings in Groningen (province), nl:Categorie:Bouwwerk in Groningen (provincie) & en:Category:Buildings and structures in Groningen (province).
Glimmen is een bosrijk dorp in de gemeente Haren bron dus Category:Houses in Haren, Groningen is correct. Multichill (talk) 16:36, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
Als het dan structures zijn, noem ze dan ook zo en maak dan op Commons ook maar supercats buildings and structures aan. Elke building is een structure, maar niet elke structure is een building. Rolpalen, siervazen, standbeelden of straatklokken buildings noemen is gewoon flauwekul, zie de woordenboekdefinities hierboven. En nogmaals, niemand gaat zulke dingen in een cat met buildings zoeken. Het gaat toch om de vindbaarheid van de afbeeldingen? Dan moet je rm'n niet onder buildings hangen.
En wat die panden in Glimmen betreft: die staan dus echt daar en niet in Haren (ik heb die foto's verdomme zelf gemaakt, dus vertel mij wat). Er werd op Commons bij mijn weten tot nog toe binnen gemeentes op plaatsen gecategoriseerd en ik dacht bovendien ook dat onnodig dubbel categoriseren zoveel mogelijk diende te worden vermeden. Wie foto's van een gebouw in Glimmen zoekt, zal echt niet gaan kijken bij de buildings in Haren.
Waarom er trouwens nu overal weer een extra laag met houses wordt aangelegd snap ik ook al niet, want het onderscheid tussen buildings en houses lijkt me soms tamelijk arbitrair en dus verwarrend. Er zijn blijkbaar naast elkaar de begrippen buildings, structures en houses in zwang. Lekker inzichtelijk hoor. Voeg je geen cats toe, dan komt er een botje op je opee zeuren en voeg je ze wél toe, dan blijkt nu dat de tijdenlang gebruikelijke cats opeens fout verklaard zijn en komt er óók een botje langs. Wat is nu de bedoeling? Dubbel categoriseren? Driedubbel categoriseren? Moet het hier met de cats net zo'n zooitje worden als op en:wiki? Ik heb steeds mijn best gedaan mijn afbeeldingen zo secuur mogelijk te beschrijven en te categoriseren, maar als het zo moet gaat de lol van foto's voor Commons maken er wel af. Wutsje (talk) 03:43, 9 August 2010 (UTC)

Lijstje

Hello Multichill,

Is it possible for you to create a list of all files uploaded by User:Ineuw in category (including sub-cats)Category:Popular_Science_Monthly_illustrations starting with "TPSMV".

There should be more than 750 files on that list.

Thnks, Huib talk Abigor @ meta 08:33, 7 August 2010 (UTC)

As discussed on irc: SELECT img_name FROM image WHERE img_name LIKE 'TPSMV%' AND img_user_text='Ineuw'; should get you started. Multichill (talk) 09:17, 7 August 2010 (UTC)

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For your info, I restored the problem tag, because the authorship information is still missing. I also don't understand what "This file is in the public domain, because copydown licentie" is supposed to mean. LX (talk, contribs) 13:53, 8 August 2010 (UTC)
The file got a source so {{No source since}} is inappropriate. If you don't agree you open a regular deletion request. Multichill (talk) 13:57, 8 August 2010 (UTC)
{{no source since}} states that "The author and source of the file must be given, so that others can verify the copyright status." (Original emphasis.) It's entirely appropriate to use it for files with missing authorship information. Nevertheless, I'll open a regular deletion discussion (which is really what you should have done instead of simply removing the problem tag from your own upload). LX (talk, contribs) 14:13, 8 August 2010 (UTC)

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User:CommonsDelinker/commands

Delinker is stale for 3 days with replacements, delinking is working. Can you help to bring him back? Thanks, --Martin H. (talk) 22:04, 8 August 2010 (UTC)

Bot Mistake

BotMultichill appears to have marked File:Bluestar 556 YG52 CEN.JPG as uncategorised, saying it only had hidden categories, when this was not the case. See diff: [1]. Can you have a look at this please? Arriva436talk/contribs 12:35, 9 August 2010 (UTC)

That's strange. I did this query with this result. This included File:Bluestar 556 YG52 CEN.JPG. So somehow the image had no categorylinks. I see the page was moved recently, maybe the moving didn't trigger a category table update. If that's the case we should see similar behavior with recently moved pages. Multichill (talk) 13:05, 9 August 2010 (UTC)
OK, thanks. Very strange though! Arriva436talk/contribs 14:11, 10 August 2010 (UTC)
I doubt I can reproduce this bug, but this query might find more images where this went wrong. Will run it when the current run is over. Multichill (talk) 15:59, 10 August 2010 (UTC)
It also went wrong at File:Carters with Marcel Marceau.jpg. This file was also moved. Multichill (talk) 06:30, 11 August 2010 (UTC)
Seems to have gone wrong with some more files. Rather strange. Earlier this week I ran another query to find files which are marked as uncategorized and contain a non-hidden category. The result is here (about 5800 items). All incorrectly tagged images should be somewhere in this list. I plan on removing the uncategorized template from these files. Multichill (talk) 09:25, 14 August 2010 (UTC)

Some weird story

Hi, wy did you say these files are out?

File:Algorithm.jpg

REASON --~~ ARGUMENTS *(I think this image file is essential to understand the development of cyber objects in networks, this is a matter of "deleted" that does not match the policy of user (s) of commons to a general understanding, I could see others in wikimedia other indole and which do not correspond to the creative development and inteectua )--~~

Could you give an answer, to restore it? please! Thank you.

Linking to archives "restauar archivos" {{

   * Image:Algorithm.jpg is uncategorized since 26 November 2008. BotMultichillT (talk) 17:03, 27 November 2008 (UTC)
   * Image:Oraculum figuravit.00036.jpg is uncategorized since 26 November 2008. BotMultichillT (talk) 17:03, 27 November 2008 (UTC)
   * Image:Red implementation.000(42) .jpg is uncategorized since 27 November 2008. BotMultichillT (talk) 10:08, 28 November 2008 (UTC)
   * Image:Sueño azulado de la muerte de un árbol.jpg is uncategorized since 2 December 2008. BotMultichillT (talk) 06:08, 3 December 2008 (UTC)
   * Image:Sueño.jpg is uncategorized since 2 December 2008. '''BotMultichillT (talk)''' " who is it/You ?"Bold text 06:08, 3 December 2008 (UTC)

Image:Arquitectura de otredad,enseres R001-022.JPG is uncategorized since 8 January 2009. BotMultichillT (talk) 06:10, 9 January 2009 }}


note,nobody to your contribuitions always said nothing! Sorries.

I really don't understand what you're trying to say. Multichill (talk) 19:43, 9 August 2010 (UTC)

bug ?

hello! Why did bot mark that revision as uncategorized ? Rubin16 (talk) 13:56, 10 August 2010 (UTC)

Bot crashed, I resumed it with some overlap, I guess that you added a category in the meantime. Multichill (talk) 14:04, 10 August 2010 (UTC)
Ok, no problem :) Rubin16 (talk) 14:11, 10 August 2010 (UTC)
Sorry about that. There seems to be some stupid bug in the regex code making my bot crash. Will probably take some time to debug that one. Multichill (talk) 15:56, 10 August 2010 (UTC)

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Martin H. (talk) 16:42, 10 August 2010 (UTC)

Bot error

Hello. Your bot made a clear error (23:08, 8 August 2010) (a categorized image was signed as uncategorized) which wasn't fixed until I fixed it now. I suppose, there remain many other images affected by this bug. --ŠJů (talk) 19:01, 11 August 2010 (UTC)

Mindef

Hallo Multichill,

Zoals je gezien hebt op discussie pagina van Martin H. ben ik na het nomineren van een upload er op gewezen dat er geen foto's gebruikt mogen worden van de mindef.nl site. Het probleem zit in het niet beschikbaar stellen voor commercieel gebruik en omdat ik vond dat dit niet strookte met de tekst in de disclaimer op de mindef.nl site heb ik de stoute schoenen aangetrokken en die nagevraagd.

Immers met de gedachte; nee heb je, ja kan je krijgen. En wat schetst mijn stomme verbazing in de eerste reactie krijg ik dit te horen;

Het auteursrecht op de website wordt door het ministerie van Defensie 
voorbehouden. Onder voorwaarde dat de bron vermeld wordt, mogen 
onderdelen van de inhoud van de website (inclusief foto's) worden 
overgenomen.

Daarop vraag ik nog wat specifieker naar het commercieel gebruik Dank u wel voor uw reactie, als ik dit goed interpreteer klopt het dat de foto's tevens zijn vrijgegeven voor commercieel gebruik (mits onder vermelding van de bron) ? en krijg als reactie dat men dit nog even wil navragen bij MinDef en men reageert als volgt;

Naar aanleiding van uw e-mail hebben wij contact opgenomen met het ministerie van Defensie.
Zoals in ons eerdere antwoord aangegeven wordt het auteursrecht op de website door het 
ministerie van Defensie voorbehouden. Onder voorwaarde dat de bron vermeld wordt, mogen onderdelen 
van de inhoud van de website (inclusief foto's) worden overgenomen. Dit geldt, voor wat betreft de 
website, voor commerciële en niet-commerciële instellingen.


Als ik dit zo lees staat het wikipedia vrij om de foto's van de site te gebruiken, ik heb de email doorgestuurd naar permissions-commons@wikimedia.org.


Zal ik de email conversatie op een user-pagina plakken, zodat je het kan inzien ?


Ik heb gesproken met de Publieksvoorlichter Postbus 51 Informatiedienst welke het informatieloket voor vragen aan de rijksoverheid is.


Huhbakker (talk) 22:47, 11 August 2010 (UTC)

Ik kan in OTRS kijken. Je mailtje staat in #2010081110012531, maar is in tegenspraak met wat ik ooit van de persvoorlichting van Defensie zelf heb gekregen (#2010081110014609 ). Moet uitgezocht worden. Multichill (talk) 06:27, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
Ok, laat me het weten als ik iets kan betekenen. Huhbakker (talk) 07:48, 12 August 2010 (UTC)

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— raeky (talk | edits) 06:01, 13 August 2010 (UTC)

Bot errors

Like this: "Warning: Invalid argument supplied for foreach() in /home/www/kunden/ramselehof.de/wikipedia/flinfo/FlinfoWiki.php on line 464

Warning: Cannot modify header information - headers already sent by (output started at /home/www/kunden/ramselehof.de/wikipedia/flinfo/FlinfoWiki.php:464) in /home/www/kunden/ramselehof.de/wikipedia/flinfo/FlinfoOut.php on line 104 " in the description of File:Flickr - …trialsanderrors - Grand Canal, Belle Isle, Detroit, Michigan, ca. 1902.jpg and other. I can't even see some of the images. Rmhermen (talk) 07:10, 13 August 2010 (UTC)

Will remove it when I can edit again (see COM:VP#All bots broken). Multichill (talk) 08:27, 14 August 2010 (UTC)

Not so hidden as it seems to be

Look at this. I uploaded quite a lot of pictures (cca 500 from Wikiexpedition) in July, all of them without categories. Then I started to add categories + description (currently about 1/4 of my work is done). The files are placed in one hidden category, which is being replaced by standard ones. Once this is done, the bot should not tag the files as uncategorized. But he does so. There might be some error, lag in a database (I mean like the bot does not recognize newer edits to the files) etc. --Aktron (talk) 08:49, 13 August 2010 (UTC)

See #Bot Mistake. Some images were returned by the query which are not uncategorized. I'll continue in that thread. Multichill (talk) 09:19, 14 August 2010 (UTC)

Category:Files moved to Commons requiring review as of 13 August 2010

Hi. Your bot failed to create this and similar categories of today. --Leyo 13:29, 13 August 2010 (UTC)

COM:VP#All bots broken. Multichill (talk) 08:26, 14 August 2010 (UTC)
It was still waiting, there it is. Multichill (talk) 10:03, 14 August 2010 (UTC)
Thanks for the reply. --Leyo 13:22, 15 August 2010 (UTC)

Delinker Log of renamed File:Limicola falcinellus P4233571.jpg

Hi Multichill, File:Limicola falcinellus P4233571.jpg was renamed File:Xenus cinereus (Alnus).jpg by User:Electron on my request. Something must have gone wrong and Delinker removed it from a couple of projects without replacing the new name. I manually checked all Terek Sandpiper articles from different projects and where I saw Delinker removal of it I readded the new file name - but there might have been more articles not that obvious. Would it be possible to get a Delinker log showing where exactly [:File:Limicola falcinellus P4233571.jpg] was removed? user:Abigor already tried to retrieve, but was not able to get a usable log. Regards, --Burkhard (talk) 21:25, 13 August 2010 (UTC)

When you click File:Limicola falcinellus P4233571.jpg, you'll see # (show/hide) 15:20, 11 August 2010 Abigor (talk | contribs | block) deleted "File:Limicola falcinellus P4233571.jpg" ‎ (missing file) (view/restore) (global usage; delinker log). Delinker log links to http://toolserver.org/~delinker/index.php?image=Limicola_falcinellus_P4233571.jpg . Multichill (talk) 07:55, 14 August 2010 (UTC)
Thanks - have it now. Didn't work yesterday. Now the image has been manually replaced at all delinked project articles.
But what really went wrong during this rename? If such things happen even only very occasionally, requesting/executing a rename seems a very dangerous thing to do. Regards, --Burkhard (talk) 09:10, 14 August 2010 (UTC)
The image was deleted before it was replaced. People just have to wait for the replacer to finish it's work. Multichill (talk) 09:17, 14 August 2010 (UTC)

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Paul van der Vegt (talk) 14:45, 14 August 2010 (UTC)

Bot question

Hi, the bot removes the uncategorized template even from images whose only category is a temporary subcategory of Category:Media missing permission, as happened here. I think the bot should exempt those images. Hekerui (talk) 16:21, 14 August 2010 (UTC)

Yes I noticed. No harm done for this run. Will add some exceptions for future runs. As for the current run:
A. The image gets deleted: nothing happens
B. The image is kept: Either the keeping admin adds a proper category or the categorization bot will tag it again
Multichill (talk) 16:25, 14 August 2010 (UTC)
I see. Best Hekerui (talk) 08:59, 15 August 2010 (UTC)

Hi Multichill, just for information: same, of course, at File:Aurariera.jpg containing only the "Deletion requests July 2010" cat in this case. It no real harm done by your useful bot, but a bit unnecessary edits. Cheers --Saibo (Δ) 23:24, 14 August 2010 (UTC)

And another example here with Category:Possibly unfree Flickr images.--Rockfang (talk) 18:16, 15 August 2010 (UTC)

Have a bot ask users to check when they tranfer?

Hi! I was thinking if we should make a bot leave users a note asking them to check the images after transfer to Commons. I was thinking that if we make some good description telling users how much it would help if they looked removed the botchecktemplate (and cleaned up ofcourse) then some users might cleanup after themselves. They do not need to be afraid because no admin should delete the original without checking the transfer. Bot should only leave a notice if the botchecktempate is not removed within an hour or a day. --MGA73 (talk) 19:25, 21 August 2010 (UTC)

We, de wikipedia, are doing (in a kind of extended "beta" stage - not in large scale) moves to Commons via bot (which useses commonshelper). Example: File:Hanomag_Sommer_1950.jpg. You would notify the bot/master in this case. Just one day ago I brought up the topic on notifying the bot operators when the do not check the transfers after a while.
In general I think notifying would be a good thing, although there needs to be a different solution for user:boteas (the de.wikipedia bot). One problem I see is that users notified just remove the "bot check needed" template and do nothing else. Cheers --Saibo (Δ) 23:48, 21 August 2010 (UTC)


Categories

All my images have categories. I don't understand, what i must to do. Best regards. --Victor Korniyenko (talk) 16:24, 22 August 2010 (UTC)

Hi Victor, maybe I can help you, too. Is there a message on you talk page which you do not understand? To which event/message are you referring to? Cheers --Saibo (Δ) 16:48, 22 August 2010 (UTC)

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trialsanderrors (talk) 10:00, 26 August 2010 (UTC)

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trialsanderrors (talk) 10:00, 26 August 2010 (UTC)

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trialsanderrors (talk) 10:01, 26 August 2010 (UTC)

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trialsanderrors (talk) 10:03, 26 August 2010 (UTC)

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trialsanderrors (talk) 10:07, 26 August 2010 (UTC)

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trialsanderrors (talk) 10:08, 26 August 2010 (UTC)

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trialsanderrors (talk) 10:10, 26 August 2010 (UTC)

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trialsanderrors (talk) 10:18, 26 August 2010 (UTC)

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trialsanderrors (talk) 10:19, 26 August 2010 (UTC)

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trialsanderrors (talk) 10:28, 26 August 2010 (UTC)

Reconstruction of Category:Newport

Hello, Multichill, you reconstructed lately the cattree Highlands. Here is another one needing reconstruction. Category:Newport and many of its subpages and (sub)-sub-sub-pages have to be moved to .... Newport (Wales). Can you do the reconstruction with a bot? If it has to be done manually, let me know. Greetings --Havang(nl) (talk) 20:19, 27 August 2010 (UTC)

Sure. BTW we use the convention Newport, Wales for geographical names at Commons, not Newport (Wales). Multichill (talk) 08:48, 28 August 2010 (UTC)
Hmm, not that easy, see Category talk:Newport. Please respond over there. Multichill (talk) 08:52, 28 August 2010 (UTC)
I started the moves as exercise (with komma), came here to tell you that I was almost halfway doing the job and found your second message, sorry. I'll finish the exercise job; if it has to be moved again, I am willing to do that. Concerning geographical names with komma or bracket: in french categories, it is widespread to use brackets. --Havang(nl) (talk) 09:30, 28 August 2010 (UTC)
There is already Category:Newport, Pembrokeshire and I have put a note in the category descriptions (talk) 09:39, 28 August 2010 (UTC)
So be it. If someone comes up with a better name we can always move it again. Multichill (talk) 10:10, 28 August 2010 (UTC)
✓ Done The move request stood there for 21+ days without any comment. --Havang(nl) (talk) 12:58, 28 August 2010 (UTC)
Newport (Wales) would be a poor choice of name (unless as a disambig) - Wales is full of them! I'd go so far as to say that any placename (Wales) would be risky. Welsh placenames are unusually repetitive. Andy Dingley (talk) 12:27, 28 August 2010 (UTC)
When it is self-disambiguated, it tends to be as Newport (South Wales). -mattbuck (Talk) 13:48, 28 August 2010 (UTC)

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