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Sakhalinio (talk) 07:29, 21 January 2020 (UTC)

Misclick? --GRuban (talk) 12:08, 21 January 2020 (UTC)
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File source is not properly indicated: File:Alexa Davies on MTV International.jpg

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Leoboudv (talk) 20:02, 13 February 2020 (UTC)

No source either. --Leoboudv (talk) 20:03, 13 February 2020 (UTC)

Dear GRuban,

Urgent. Can you please review my image above please? I flickrmailed the copyright owner for a license change. Thank You, --Leoboudv (talk) 21:23, 13 February 2020 (UTC)

✓ Done; and thank you again for your untiring efforts. --GRuban (talk) 21:26, 13 February 2020 (UTC)

Image to upload excerted from YouTube

Hi GRuban! I realized that you excerpted an image of Judirth Libermann from a YouTube file, and successfully uploaded it to Commons. This way of image uplading to Commons is new to me. I think if it is a general way I can add some images to articles, which are lacking any. My question is: 1) is there a Wiki-guide how to achieve this, or 2) can you give me a brief instruction, or 3) would you upload an image of "Semin Öztürk Şener", which I excerpted from [1]? Thank you. CeeGee (talk) 14:20, 11 March 2020 (UTC)

File:Judith Liberman at Zorlu Center.jpg? Glad you liked it!
1) Not yet, but I guess I could write one. I did write a JavaScript Bookmarklet to help, but it's not necessary, I did it for years without one.
2) Basically, take a screenshot at the appropriate time, by hitting the PrintScreen/PrtScr button and pasting into your desktop Paint program or equivalent, https://youtubescreenshot.com/ can also help. However,
3) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BgP2t0b7Lzs is not good, because it doesn't have a free license. Take a look at Commons:Where is the license on various sites?#YouTube about finding the Creative Commons license on YouTube. Also be careful; there are YouTube users that will upload copyrighted programs and mark them as free, you'll need to be reasonably sure they do own the video. If it looks like a commercial television program, but is uploaded by some amateur user with three other uploads and under a hundred subscribers, it probably is not really theirs. --GRuban (talk) 14:33, 11 March 2020 (UTC)
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OTRS verified account

I hereby confirm that under the OTRS ticket 2020041210007363, you, User:GRuban, are authorized to "license individual screenshots" from the YouTube channel "dulceosuna" videos under the Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike 4.0 International license and upload them to Wikimedia Commons.

Thank you for your efforts.

Kind regards, Ahmadtalk 02:52, 13 April 2020 (UTC)

  • File:Tiaré Scanda en Dulce Osuna.jpg is missing an OTRS ticket. Best, --Leoboudv (talk) 18:56, 29 April 2020 (UTC)
    • Thank you! In case you're interested, what happened was that I noticed that a few of the Dulce Osuna YouTube videos were marked Creative Commons, but had text saying (roughly) "don't take my videos" in Spanish. So I wrote her an email to clarify the issue. She changed the text for a few, and said she'd love to help out with more ... but when I sent a list of another 5 or so, she was really busy. So I found the bit on COM:OTRS that said "Please send us a clear statement that your Commons account (or some other Commons account) is authorized to license your works, either any work or some set of works, e.g. "My images from event X, 2013-10-15". We will make a note of this for your future uploads." and she said she'd love to do that! So I am now going through her years worth of videos and grabbing screenshots - not the whole video - and putting them on articles. I sent her the first batch of 20 or so and she said she was happy, so looks like it works. --GRuban (talk) 19:30, 29 April 2020 (UTC)
  •  Comment: That's good indeed. Have a safe day and be careful of what you touch in this difficult times. This free WP link is very useful for C-19. Best, --Leoboudv (talk) 00:32, 30 April 2020 (UTC)

4 images

Dear GRuban,

Please help review these images below please.

Thank You a lot. It is a scary time in Metro Vancouver, Canada, with the C-19 virus though I don't know where you are. Best, --Leoboudv (talk) 04:58, 2 May 2020 (UTC)

✓ Done, and best of luck! I'm in a Boston suburb normally, on Cape Cod now. --GRuban (talk) 00:23, 3 May 2020 (UTC)
  • Thank You GRuban. I assumed you were in Europe from the times you upload your images but you are actually only 3 hours ahead of me in the Pacific Time zone of Vancouver Canada/Washington State and California. Just take care of yourself. I try not to get close to other people when shopping and have seen terrible stories of the C-19 virus causing blood clots in patients such as this one from a reputable Canadian news site. Its also very sad that when someone is dying from c-19, no one can be with them either. Best, --Leoboudv (talk) 08:29, 3 May 2020 (UTC)
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Thanks, Killarnee. I corrected the OTRS tag. --GRuban (talk) 22:26, 9 May 2020 (UTC)

Notification about possible deletion

Some contents have been listed at Commons:Deletion requests so that the community can discuss whether they should be kept or not. We would appreciate it if you could go to voice your opinion about this at their entry.

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Affected:

And also:

Yours sincerely, BevinKacon (talk) 19:06, 18 May 2020 (UTC)

Asking your guidance

Hi GRuban, wondering if you might contact Bari Weiss and Nellie Bowles about getting their images into Wikimedia Commons. I've tried unsuccessfully but issues such as screenshots and EXIF stuff baffles me. --Tomwsulcer (talk) 20:03, 20 May 2020 (UTC)

Will reply by email, thanks! --GRuban (talk) 21:18, 20 May 2020 (UTC)
Thanks.--Tomwsulcer (talk) 21:55, 20 May 2020 (UTC)

Review request

Hello GRuban, Could you please review these images which I've uploaded:

Youtube images Vimeo images
[2], [3], [4], [5], [6], [7], [8], [9], [10],
[11], [12], [13], [14], [15], [16], [17], [18],
[19], [20], [21], [22], [23], [24], [25], [26], [27], [28]
[29], [30], [31], [32], [33]

--Gpkp (talk) 17:38, 4 June 2020 (UTC)

Looked at the YouTube ones first. Many good that I approved, at least one that I nominated for deletion, and a number that I'm not sure of, possibly because I'm not an India/Pakistan expert.
  • Thank you GRuban for the quick review.
  • Regarding: File:Dawood_Ibrahim.jpg: While the channel is certainly not being the creator of image, the image is in the media since early 90's and it seems to me that the copyright of the image is supposed to be held by many, including ETV channel. If you consider its not, could you suggest a proper India-license? (in regard to the above where you mentioned: Fair_dealing#India)
No, sorry. "the image is in the media since early 90's" is not a justification for deciding it's "held by many" (how would that even work?) or otherwise freely licensed.
Can you show some evidence that they own the images? Are they specifically music video images, and not movie images? In my experience, it's not uncommon for music videos for music featured in movies to use a few images from the movie, but I don't think that gives them the rights to the movie images. See, we (Commons) care a lot more about copyright than most people or companies, who are happy with including fair use images. We can't.
  • File:Supernova (CGI).jpg: Its a screenshot @ 0:23~0.24 secs in the video. MTV UK owns the trailor copyright:ref. Yes, its from a comedy segment, but the graphic (in image) seemed good. Please consider omitting it if it seems akward.
That doesn't say MTV owns the trailer copyright. It says the trailer is exclusively on MTV, but I don't think that's the same thing.
Will get to. --GRuban (talk) 14:28, 5 June 2020 (UTC)
GRuban; Got it. Thank you for quick analysis and sort-out. --Gpkp (talk) 15:37, 5 June 2020 (UTC)

Vimeo images reviewed, 3 approved, 2 nominated for deletion. Can you look into the Pakistan Cricket Board video, please? If you can show that PCB films their own events (which is quite possible), I'll happily approve those images. I can see lots of similar videos on their YouTube videos page, but they vary in style (the overlays especially) slightly, which implies that maybe different local television channels do the actual filming. Or maybe they're PCB videos and their style just changed over time. --GRuban (talk) 16:34, 5 June 2020 (UTC)

Could it be called a proof/confirmation, that it is mentioned all videos in their official website's video page: https://www.pcb.com.pk/videos.html ; all videos are linked to their official youtube channel. Even to me it seems: ‘’their style just changed over time‘’. --Gpkp (talk) 17:36, 5 June 2020 (UTC)
Hmm. Let me consult with ... The Angel of Death! Well, not really, but it is a user who has demonstrated that he is good at demonstrating that some released YouTube video content is not owned by their YouTube publisher. @BevinKacon: Bevin, I know you didn't want to formally be a license reviewer, but may I consult with you about a YouTube video? If you don't want to read all the above, basically, would you say that this YouTube video was filmed by the Pakistan Cricket Board (the official Pakistan cricket organization), or is it excerpts from some local television channel? --GRuban (talk) 17:49, 5 June 2020 (UTC)
GRuban, as per this ref the series aired in Pakistan on PTV Sports, which is Pakistan's state-owned broadcaster. Even PCB is a govt. body. There are not even watermarks of any other TV logos etc. in the video. --Gpkp (talk) 18:25, 5 June 2020 (UTC)
OK, accepted. --GRuban (talk) 19:17, 10 June 2020 (UTC)
Thank you GRuban.🤝 --Gpkp (talk) 17:32, 11 June 2020 (UTC)

reviews of some of my pictures

Let me first thank you for your hard work !! .. you reviewed some of my files, thanks for that.. Can you please look at this example : File:Orthotylus marginalis (Miridae) - (imago), Elst (Gld), the Netherlands.jpg You (or the tool you use) copied the entire content of the source parameter of the information template into the licencereview template, this breaks the html code as you can see in the result .. can you please just copy the url in the future ?, thank you.. I don't know what is causing it there must be some problem with one of the templates. Maybe you can understand what's going on ? Bj.schoenmakers (talk) 02:15, 13 June 2020 (UTC)

@Bj.schoenmakers, Hannolans, and Lymantria: I'm using the standard License Review gadget recommended in Commons:License_review#Instructions_for_reviewers. It seems that Template:Waarneming.nl does not play nicely with it. I fixed it in this file, but let me ping the creator and last person to edit that template, maybe they can figure out the issue? Folks, here is what clicking "License+" on the standard license review gadget does to a file using that template in the source=. --GRuban (talk) 13:54, 14 June 2020 (UTC)
I usually just copy the link when clicking the "license+" and past that link. Lymantria (talk) 15:34, 14 June 2020 (UTC)

Review request

Hello GRuban, Greetings!
Requesting review for following files: 1, 2, 3, and a video.
--Gpkp (talk) 17:08, 19 June 2020 (UTC)

Doing, but note that you can get better resolution on the YouTube videos. If you click on the gear icon (4th from the right, sometimes marked HD) on the lower right corner of the video, then select Quality, you will see options to select resolution. That's the maximum height of the video. (It will show at whatever you size your browser at, but beyond that height it will interpolate.) The Steven Laureys video, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E8HR3LSUXrk, for example, is available at 1080p. I'm guessing you can resize your browser and double the size of File:Steven_Laureys.jpg in each dimension and only get improved quality. --GRuban (talk) 19:57, 19 June 2020 (UTC)
All good, but do improve the quality of the images if you can. --GRuban (talk) 20:02, 19 June 2020 (UTC)
File:Sadie Calvano on Dulce Osuna.jpg has been listed at Commons:Deletion requests so that the community can discuss whether it should be kept or not. We would appreciate it if you could go to voice your opinion about this at its entry.

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Need help for License review request, Verifying the images

Hi GRuban, can you Please help me to check, reviewing and verifying this photos down below; I'm pretty sure all of this pictures is a screenshot that was originally uploaded on YouTube under a CC license mentioned on each of the photos summary and licensing. Their website states: "YouTube allows users to mark their videos with a Creative Commons CC BY license.":

Thanks before, best regards- I Nyoman Gede Anila (talk) 12:23, 11 August 2020 (UTC)

I looked at all, and each and every one was reviewed by the amazing User:Leoboudv, the legend of Commons:License review, today, probably between the time you posted here and I read your message. They're good. --GRuban (talk) 11:21, 11 August 2020 (UTC)

Thank you so much GRuban for spending times and effort to check my request.. 🤝 - I Nyoman Gede Anila (talk) 22:21, 11 August 2020 (UTC)

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@Leoboudv: Ack! So sorry, copy paste error, wrong video link. Corrected now on all three files. Thank you as always for your tireless work! --GRuban (talk) 11:15, 20 August 2020 (UTC)

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License Review

Hello GRuban thanks for your questions, I would posted my answer shortly in a while. C1K98V (💬 ✒️ 📂) 16:51, 11 September 2020 (UTC)

Thanks. Fair warning ... there might be some research required! --GRuban (talk) 17:52, 11 September 2020 (UTC)
Yes research required, but why Fair warning? I didn't get you. Would you like to elaborate about your reply above. Thanks C1K98V (💬 ✒️ 📂) 18:40, 11 September 2020 (UTC)
From your COM:LRR response, you figured it out! Better than I would have done. Don't apologize for slow response - a response within hours is fast, and anything under several days is not slow. Do look at the other one as well, though. --GRuban (talk) 19:04, 11 September 2020 (UTC)
Good morning, Yes the first part which I posted is quite big as per the research work, I will post my answer of the second part of the question in just a short while. Do have a look when you are free. Thanks, have a good day, stay safe.C1K98V (💬 ✒️ 📂) 23:19, 11 September 2020 (UTC)
GRuban Thanks for motivating me by your comment You're better at this than I am. But I would like to rephrase I'm a quick learner, or something like everybody learn from their mistakes, I did a lot of mistakes, that has helped me, but I regret making those mistake. I remember a message of your on my talk page regarding a copies of a file and it's license review, which made you a bit upset, I apologize for that too. C1K98V (💬 ✒️ 📂) 01:36, 12 September 2020 (UTC)

Dear GRuban,

If you have time, please just review this single image. Thanks, --Leoboudv (talk) 21:35, 9 October 2020 (UTC)

✓ Done It's the official channel of the festival, so I'm going to believe they have the rights to release. --GRuban (talk) 21:44, 9 October 2020 (UTC)

Hello. I cropped File:Laura Morera Mayerling (cropped).JPG, which you uploaded, so the formatting on Laura Morera's Wiki page would look better. The cropped version is in a separate file, but the original one is now smushed together for some reason. Do you mind checking what is wrong with that? Corachow (talk) 18:11, 13 October 2020 (UTC)

The system seemed to think you cropped the original as well. Maybe there was a bug somewhere? I have never seen this particular bug, but do occasionally have some smushing issues, maybe 5% of the time when I crop? Anyway, I reverted, and it seems to be fine now. Thanks for the notice. --GRuban (talk) 18:20, 13 October 2020 (UTC)

Ask for new image

Hi GRuban, can you find YouTube screenshots of Sandra Dianne, she was a Malaysian singer who passed away recently and YouTube screenshots of Mira Filzah. Thank you.-Fandi89 (talk) 05:25, 16 October 2020 (UTC)

Maybe? I found three Creative Commons Attribution ms:MeleTOP videos of "Sandra" who seems to be a singer - was this she?
and Mira Filzah
So here's what I do.
  1. Search on YouTube for the person's name, then select "Filter" at the top, Features, Creative Commons.
  2. Unfortunately the filter doesn't work completely, so it will often return videos that aren't Creative Commons. For each one I need to go to the "More" link at the bottom of the image description and expand it to make sure there is a Creative Commons license.
  3. Then I need to apply common sense - does the YouTube account actually have the rights to the video they uploaded? In this case, this seems to be the official YouTube channel of the MeleTOP television show, the "about" page https://www.youtube.com/c/astromeletop/about says it has 1.6 million subscribers, its videos have received 800 million views, seems legitimate. If this was a user that only uploaded 12 videos from different sources and has only 47 viewers, then that's a sign this could just be a copyright violator that the copyright owner just hasn't gotten around to complaining about yet; there are a number of those on YouTube.
  4. For each video that I believe the license for, I resize so the video is approximately the height it says on the highest "Quality" under the Gear Icon in the lower right corner of the video,
  5. lower the speed to the lowest (.25), scan around until I can get the best image (as much of the person visible as possible, looking towards the camera, smiling or a neutral expression),
  6. press PrtScn to get a screenshot,
  7. paste into Microsoft Paint, crop appropriately (sometimes crop off or paste over any video logos if I can without damaging the image), save as a JPEG image file.
  8. Often (not always), I open the image file in Microsoft Photos, which lets me brighten or darken the image. Often video screenshots are too dark, and brightening or vignetting improves.
  9. Upload, marking the source as the YouTube video, the author as the YouTube author page, and the license as {{YouTube}}{{LicenseReview}}.
Try it! I'm guessing you will want more images than just this. This proverb applies. --GRuban (talk) 12:37, 16 October 2020 (UTC)
On a slightly related note, does MeleTOP translate as "My Top" or "My Best" or no real English translation? I notice there is no EN Wikipedia article about it, and I'm tempted to write one. Explaining what the name means would be important. --GRuban (talk) 17:48, 16 October 2020 (UTC)
Article written: MeleTOP. It's not long, but has a lot more in it than the Malay one. Comments welcome. --GRuban (talk) 01:53, 17 October 2020 (UTC)
It's MeleTOP which derive from real Malay word meletup which means "explode" or "exploded". I have added hosts on the article that you created recently. Would you upload the images of these two subjects that I mention yesterday so we can use it to beautify their respective articles. Best regards.-Fandi89 (talk) 05:49, 18 October 2020 (UTC)
Thank you! Is there a news article that I can use as a source that says that about the name? OK, I will do the uploads, but honestly I hoped you would. You'd gain a lot by trying to do it yourself, mainly the experience to illustrate other articles. --GRuban (talk) 15:18, 19 October 2020 (UTC)

Sandra

OK, here are two images of Sandra on MeleTOP in 2016; the first is her singing in higher resolution, but that might be a bad thing as one can she had skin problems if one looks carefully. The other is lower resolution.

Mira Filzah

And two more of Mira Filzah. Good luck! --GRuban (talk) 19:11, 19 October 2020 (UTC)

Other images

Thanks for your appreciate help, I have been created categories of these two subjects today. I previously have been upload images came from MeleTOP, but have been deleted due to copyvio. Can you find YouTube screenshots of Shukri Yahaya and Syafiq Kyle, there are their respective articles on English Wikipedia.—Fandi89 (talk) 05:23, 20 October 2020 (UTC)
Thanks for the categories. Sorry about the deletions, I'm guessing the issue was that not all MeleTOP videos are licensed Creative Commons. For example, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZVWlUwnQ6tY - this is the one where Neelofa announces she is leaving MeleTOP, right? I'd have loved to get an image from that, but it's not Creative Commons licensed. But if you think some were deleted incorrectly, please tell me; I'm not an administrator, but I am fairly experienced, and if some were properly licensed we can probably get them restored.
Meanwhile, I will need your help for images of those two actors, because I don't understand Malay language and am not immersed in the culture.
  • For Shukri Yahaya, on YouTube I see lots of Creative Commons videos from Memes Drama Melayu, such as https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uSX2jPJvCWM. I was going to dismiss that channel out of hand, because it looked like a fan channel just taking clips from television series, which they would not have the copyright to, but an automatic translator says the description of that video says "All the footage that is broadcast on this channel is not from television, the actual platform of this drama is aired. It is only footage for promotional purposes from IG, FB and others from artists and crew involved in the production of a drama." So I'll need you, or someone else who understands Malay, and Malaysian culture, to do some research and find out if this channel has the rights to those videos, so we can trust that they can put them up with Creative Commons licences. Can you find a news article or some other source explaining who is behind Memes Drama Melayu? Is it someone who is associated with the television productions, and is doing the filming themselves? Or is it just a fan who is grabbing videos they don't own?
  • For Syafiq Kyle - can you explain what is going on in this video, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fnyJ7fzrXis? Is the actor specifically filming a short clip for ReChannel? The channel doesn't have many subscribers, only a few hundred, but it does have videos where they are interviewing people with their Re logo on the microphones, so I'm willing to believe this is a legitimate channel, filming its own work in general. But is the specific Syafiq Kyle video owned by ReChannel? It doesn't have a ReChannel microphone, so I'm going to need you to vouch based on what he is saying there that this is a ReChannel clip, or a clip from some other source that ReChannel might not own.
  • Finally - and this is somewhat embarrassing - to me, both the actors look a lot alike! Short wavy black hair, thin black beards and moustaches... if someone were to tell me that this picture https://famousintro.com/celebrity/syafiq-kyle and this picture https://www.nst.com.my/lifestyle/groove/2018/10/420326/showbiz-shukri-yahaya-reprimanded-indecent-act portrayed the same person, I could believe them. So you'll also need to confirm these are pictures of the right person! --GRuban (talk) 14:23, 20 October 2020 (UTC)
Thanks for your explanation about this. Here are these pictures (all from MeleTOP) that have been deleted:

I have seen these URLs that you provided and I guess they are the right person, these are two actors that I know - Shukri Yahaya (born 1988) and Syafiq Kyle (born 1992). I've just have been visit Memes Drama Melayu's YouTube channel and the channel was created early last year.–Fandi89 (talk) 01:05, 22 October 2020 (UTC)

@Fandi89: Here are some of those that I was able to find (one from MeleTOP!) Please look again at the Syafiq Kyle ReChannel video, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fnyJ7fzrXis, and explain what he is saying in the video. Is the actor saying that he is specifically filming this short clip for ReChannel? Does he mention ReChannel by name? --GRuban (talk) 16:18, 26 October 2020 (UTC)

@GRuban: I have seen the video that you provide recently, and here what he says: "Hi! I'm Syafiq Kyle, get the latest discoveries on ReChannel". Also, I have created the category for MeleTOP today and you can see the result, in case if you upload pictures and videos from the TV series soon, you can put the category as well.–Fandi89 (talk) 11:33, 28 October 2020 (UTC)
Beautiful, that's exactly what I wanted to know. I grabbed a screenshot, but it looked ... squashed. So I made another one stretched 25% vertically, that I think looks better, but it's an arbitrary stretch. Maybe it should be 20% or 30%? Or none? I don't think he really does have a face that is wider than it is tall, but ... ? Both in the gallery above. --GRuban (talk) 13:56, 28 October 2020 (UTC)
It's OK, I have seen those pictures and it seems better. Anyway, thanks for your help (maybe I could need your help to find pictures of Malaysian artistes on YouTube in the future).–Fandi89 (talk) 09:34, 1 November 2020 (UTC)

Khatijah Tan

Hi!, can you upload a picture of Malaysian Actresses, Khatijah Tan, Thank you. Saiff Naqiuddin (talk) 07:28, 20 October 2020 (UTC)

Sorry couldn't find any new free work - but what is wrong with File:Khatijah-Tan-in-2018.jpg ? --GRuban (talk) 14:36, 20 October 2020 (UTC)

Bollywood Hungama files

Hello @GRuban: , it would be great if you could have a look at the Category:Namashi Chakraborty and do license review. Thanks --C1K98V (💬 ✒️ 📂) 14:27, 14 November 2020 (UTC)

✓ Done --GRuban (talk) 20:32, 14 November 2020 (UTC)
  • Hello @GRuban: , Good morning. Thanks for the quick look and responce. I really admire you hard work for the community. You are really important for the project. Could you brief me about the review process of the file above. I know you used the LR script to review them. But I want to know about the points and background research for a successful review. Thanks --C1K98V (💬 ✒️ 📂) 03:06, 15 November 2020 (UTC)
Also have a look at the Category:Amrin Qureshi and review the files. Thanks --C1K98V (💬 ✒️ 📂) 06:00, 15 November 2020 (UTC)
I looked at the files, checked the link to the source, https://www.bollywoodhungama.com/news/parties-and-events/photos-namashi-chakraborty-spotted-foodhall-bandra/photos-namashi-chakraborty-spotted-at-foodhall-in-bandra-1/, they were there, the images had the Bollywood Hungama stamp/watermark on them, they were full images, not cropped to avoid some other watermark. That's 90% of it there; I've found files from Bollywood Hungama that were copied from somewhere else, but they all lacked the stamp, and many were cropped to remove some other stamp, the four deletion requests listed in Category:Unreviewed files from Bollywood Hungama have the details. I did do a quick Google images search and found an image or two from the same event like https://gramho.com/media/2226992252662733550, but not those exact same images - I'm guessing several photographers from several news agencies were there taking photos at the same time. --GRuban (talk) 13:51, 15 November 2020 (UTC)
Looks like User:MGA73 reviewed Category:Amrin Qureshi already; thanks, MGA73. --GRuban (talk) 17:10, 15 November 2020 (UTC)

Vanya Mishra or Yu Wenxia

Nice catch - yes, I agree, that is Yu Wenxia. I looked on the web a fair bit, and can find sources saying it's Vanya Mishra (https://www.bollywoodmantra.com/album/snapped-in-mumbai-international-airport-2013/vanya-mishra/) and sources saying it's Yu Wenxia (galatta.com/hindi/events/photos/miss-world-yu-wenxia-at-mumbai-internatinal-airport/15324/, https://www.missmalini.com/2013/01/20/meet-the-reigning-miss-world-yu-wenxia-and-a-hilarious-photo-bombing-kid/, https://businessofcinema.com/bollywood_news/airport-diaries-miss-world-yu-wenxia-heads-straight-for-filmfare-awards/57896), and it is hard to tell apart two dark haired beauty queens in sunglasses, but I think the key point is the beauty mark on the cheek. You see our photo has a dark mark on the middle of the right cheek? I can find that same mark in multiple photos of Yu Wenxia: https://bastardsofistanbul.files.wordpress.com/2012/08/yu-wenxia_4.jpg https://alchetron.com/Yu-Wenxia#yu-wenxia-0ba85cff-aa0d-4b6b-b52d-9379eb6043e-resize-750.jpeg http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-q8BhM7g075k/Udw--3V7RuI/AAAAAAAAAFE/p8Gv0vv8ERw/s1600/1+%25282%2529.JPG while it's clearly not there in several Vanya Mishra photos: https://photogallery.indiatimes.com/beauty-pageants/miss-india/pfmi12-winners-easter-lunch/articleshow/12581365.cms http://bollywoodaaina.blogspot.com/2012/03/vanya-mishra-crowned-miss-india-world.html (I guess it could have been airbrushed out in the latter, but I doubt it was airbrushed in in the former!). I'm going to rename our photo, and add this conversation on the image talk page, for details as to why we're renaming it! --GRuban (talk) 14:21, 16 November 2020 (UTC)
@GRuban: thanks for looking the web so deeply. You again proved to be a gem for the project. What you think about the photo of the BH link is it suitable for Commons, as similar upload are available on Hamara photos in same timeframe. Thanks --C1K98V (💬 ✒️ 📂) 14:29, 16 November 2020 (UTC)
Similar is OK, as long as they're not this specific photo. I looked at the Hamara Photos, and while there are plenty of similar ones, I can't find this exact same one. (Dark background, with faint blueish horizontal line above and behind her right shoulder...) I also can't find the other photos on the BH page on the HP page. I think these are genuine BH photos. I'm guessing there were multiple photographers there, some from (or which sold their photos to) Bollywood Hungama, some from Hamara Photos, some from Galatta... --GRuban (talk) 14:41, 16 November 2020 (UTC)
Unfortunately, I'm skeptical of the other Vanya Mishra photo we have, File:Vm27.jpg. It's a professional posed photo, but relatively low resolution, uploaded by a user with no other contributions, and marked "own work" - those are all warning signs. If it is really the user's own work, then the user is a professional quality photographer, and while we do have a number of those (anyone who made one of our Commons:Featured pictures would be a thoroughly professional quality photographer), they normally contribute multiple photos. Also, if it's really their photo, why would they upload it at a low resolution? I might get around to nominating it for deletion, which is a shame since we don't have any others. --GRuban (talk) 15:04, 16 November 2020 (UTC)
I check the other files, probably taken from the official twitter account of the actress. Many hits are available on google through low resolution. And I'm unable to find when the photo was first used on twitter. Sure I agree with you, we should nominate both file and category. Thanks --C1K98V (💬 ✒️ 📂) 15:13, 16 November 2020 (UTC)
Not quite. (Which is good, because if we can't trust that a BH watermarked photo is truly owned by BH, we might need to delete most of our BH photos; that's our main way of being sure.) First, of course, there's a watermark on the middle of the HP photo, so the BH photo couldn't have been just a copy of that one, it would have required complex editing. But also, notice our photo has two flowers (more like one and a quarter) in her bouquet, while the HP photo only has one - it's more narrow. Also, if you switch between them you'll see the head position is slightly different. The HP photo is maybe one degree more full face towards the viewer, the right ear is narrower, and you can see only two petals of the flower earring, while the BH photo is turned slightly more, the ear is wider, and you can see three and a half petals of the flower earring. Though I'll agree they're very close, I'm guessing they're both taken by the same photographer within one or a few seconds of each other, it looks like the photographer sold one of the series to BH and one to HP. (If you do the same switch back-and-forth trick with our photo and the BH photo, you'll see pixel-for-pixel identity except the watermark being edited away and replaced with grey sweater - whoever did that - did a good job.) --GRuban (talk) 13:46, 17 November 2020 (UTC)
@GRuban: , Yes I agree with your explanation above. True the photographer did an amazing work. Thanks for doing the research so deeply. You're a gem for the project. Thanks --C1K98V (💬 ✒️ 📂) 13:53, 17 November 2020 (UTC)

Request for more new images of Malaysian artists

Hello @GRuban: , nice to see you here again, I would like to ask you to find more YouTube screenshots of these Malaysian artists below (sources from newspaper articles also I provided to confirmed them):

I guess some of them also in MeleTOP too.—Fandi89 (talk) 05:40, 17 November 2020 (UTC)

I really want to encourage you to do more of this yourself. I think I gave instructions above? I'll do it again below. Not only is this your area of interest, rather than mine - honestly I'm just not as interested in Malaysian entertainers as I may seem! - but you can speak the language, and know the culture, so you'll just do a better job. If you are afraid of uploading images and having them deleted, you can find the image links and post them here for me to discuss and approve, if you like. I can help, but this should be your battle. Let me walk you through the procedure for a couple:
  • Haqiem Rusli
    1. Google Image Search https://www.google.com/search?tbm=isch&q=haqiem+rusli - for reference, we'll use this to compare with any later results
    2. Google Creative Commons Image Search https://www.google.com/search?q=haqiem%20rusli&tbm=isch&tbs=il:cl - nothing useful
    3. YouTube Creative Commons search https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=haqiem+rusli&sp=EgIwAQ%253D%253D - several possibilities
      1. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PHPQ5Li0ELw Aku,Hati Dan Perasaan - Haqiem Rusli ( Lyric Video ) - no actual images in video, no good
      2. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZS52YsbXOU4 INDO PUBLIC REACTION - Haqiem Rusli - What Can I Do For You? #INDOREACT - comparing to the Google Search (1, above) I think this isn't Haqiem Rusli, just various people showing his video to people. This is where understanding the language would make this easier for you, you can probably tell that immediately, right? I have to compare pictures. There are some small still photos of his videos in the corners, but I don't think this YouTube channel owns them. No good for us.
      3. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fzFEJM_zng0 better ... but I see "Copyright Disclaimer under section 107 of the Copyright Act of 1976, allowance is made for “fair use” for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching, scholarship, education and research. Fair use is a use permitted by copyright statute that might otherwise be infringing.” - right. So they definitely don't own these videos they're embedding. We need to skip all INDO REACTs then.
      4. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5WNfwI-J9XE Haqeem Rusli buat surprise - this seems to actually be the singer. The video is very fuzzy, but we could grab a fuzzy image, we could get a general idea of what he looks like, better than nothing. Does the YouTube channel really own the video, though? I'm not sure. It starts with SMK IT JAAFAR - what does that mean? Their About page https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCcG02sJ7437XIliVMl2YtAA/about says only 86 subscribers, no official sites, just a blogger link, this looks like an amateur channel; but then, this is an amateur video, which is why it's so fuzzy. Videos page https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCcG02sJ7437XIliVMl2YtAA/videos has 13 videos total. Some video game play-throughs, some vehicles ... no other entertainer videos, bu no obvious copyright violations from other places, though. I'm not sure. If I could understand the language of this video, maybe it would convince me that yes, this video is made by the owner of the video channel, or maybe not. Since it's a fuzzy image, and I don't understand the language, I personally would pass. But if I were convinced that it is made by the channel owner, I would take and upload a screenshot, fuzzy is better than none.
      5. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jkgtpm5cS2s CIPLAK LAGU HAQIEM...BETUL KE AMAN AZIZ? Some guy in a car, then images of Haqiem Rusli video, then some other guy in glasses interviewed by car guy - from looking at the channel home page, https://www.youtube.com/c/NasAhmadTerjah/videos I think the guy in the car is the owner of the channel, but I don't think the HR video is his. If I wanted images of car guy or glasses guy I could grab a screenshot here, but not HR.
      6. More reaction videos. In short, unless I was more sure of the "Haqeem Rusli buat surprise", I think we have nothing here.
  • Here, let me skip ahead and find one that is useful. Raysha Rizrose
    1. https://www.google.com/search?q=Raysha%20Rizrose&tbm=isch Google Images for comparison
    2. https://www.google.com/search?q=Raysha%20Rizrose&tbm=isch&hl=en&tbs=il:cl Nothing in Google Images Creative Commons
    3. https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=raysha+rizrose&sp=EgIwAQ%253D%253D - promising in YouTube Creative Commons
      1. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gZV4Wlojj1s - MeleTOP - Batu-Batu Api Gagal Meretakkan Persahabatan Dewi-Dewi Remaja Ep134 [26.5.2015] - nothing saying her name in the text. Is this even her? Well, at 0:35, we see three beauty queens wearing sashes saying "Dewi Remaja 2014/2015", also "1st runner up", "2nd runner up". Our article Dewi Remaja says that it's a beauty contest, and the titleholder for 2014/15 was Raysha Rizrose. Looks like we want the winner in purple. Compare to the Google Images search - yes, seems likely this is her. Up above I think I explained why MeleTop, the channel owner, is legitimate, and we can trust they own the video they are releasing. Click SHOW MORE under the video text to check that they are releasing the license: yes, it says License Creative Commons Attribution license (reuse allowed) So we can grab a good screenshot here. I'm not going to do it for you, just offer instructions, though.
        1. Under the gear icon, Quality, highest is 720 pixels. Choose that. Resize the browser so the video image so it's about that height. https://www.arulerforwindows.com/ helps.
        2. Pan around through the video for a good frame. I see the image focuses on her, with her looking into the camera and smiling at about 3:54. Under the gear again, set playback speed to 0.25, go back to about 3:50 (giving a couple of seconds so the bar at the bottom goes away), click the triangle to play, press PrtScn PrintScreen at the right time.
        3. Open Paint, paste, crop, save;
        4. Go to Special:UploadWizard, upload, select "This file is not my own work", fill in the form with:
source: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gZV4Wlojj1s MeleTOP - Batu-Batu Api Gagal Meretakkan Persahabatan Dewi-Dewi Remaja Ep134 (26.5.2015)], at 3:54, cropped
author: [https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCW4r6r93JlGcdxRkgVbCzRg MeleTOP]
license: Another reason not mentioned above: {{YouTube}}{{LicenseReview}}
The others work like these. Again, if you need help, post here, and I'll help - but I want you to do it. Good practice for eventually doing it all yourself. Good luck! --GRuban (talk) 20:44, 17 November 2020 (UTC)
Thanks for your good advice. I really can do it by myself, but I can't because I'm using tablet, as I have a computer problems.–Fandi89 (talk) 00:05, 18 November 2020 (UTC)
Which part can't you do on a tablet? If you only have a phone, taking a good resolution screenshot might be hard, but a tablet should be reasonable https://www.lifewire.com/how-to-take-a-screenshot-on-android-phone-or-tablet-2377913 --GRuban (talk) 01:17, 18 November 2020 (UTC)

@Fandi89: OK. I guess if you can't, you can't. Here. I only got two of the eight, but here are a few others from the same videos that you may be interested in as well. --GRuban (talk) 14:30, 7 December 2020 (UTC)

@GRuban: Sorry for late reply because I'm too busy. Seems great and I have added those pictures at their respective articles on Malay Wikipedia wherein I mostly active. Anyway thanks for your help.–Fandi89 (talk) 00:03, 9 December 2020 (UTC)

Bollywood Hungama files

Hello @GRuban: , I hope you're doing good. Please have a look at this files for review. Thanks for your consideration. --C1K98V (💬 ✒️ 📂) 04:35, 19 November 2020 (UTC)

  1. File:Photos-Celebs-grace-the-press-meet-to-announce-three-films-Bhootuyapa-Flat-No-420-and-Khalli-Balli-3.jpg
  2. File:Photos-Celebs-grace-the-press-meet-to-announce-three-films-Bhootuyapa-Flat-No-420-and-Khalli-Balli-4.jpg
  3. File:Photos-Celebs-grace-the-press-meet-to-announce-three-films-Bhootuyapa-Flat-No-420-and-Khalli-Balli-5.jpg
  4. File:Photos-Kumar-Sanu-snapped-at-a-recording-studio-for-a-romantic-song-for-Khalli-Balli-1.jpg
  5. File:Photos-Kumar-Sanu-snapped-at-a-recording-studio-for-a-romantic-song-for-Khalli-Balli-2.jpg
  6. File:Photos-Kumar-Sanu-snapped-at-a-recording-studio-for-a-romantic-song-for-Khalli-Balli-3-480x360.jpg
  7. File:Photos-Kumar-Sanu-snapped-at-a-recording-studio-for-a-romantic-song-for-Khalli-Balli-4.jpg
  8. File:Photos-Kumar-Sanu-snapped-at-a-recording-studio-for-a-romantic-song-for-Khalli-Balli-5.jpg
  9. File:Photos-Kumar-Sanu-snapped-at-a-recording-studio-for-a-romantic-song-for-Khalli-Balli-6.jpg
  10. File:Ranveer-Singh-graces-the-screening-of-YRFs-short-film-Sex-Chat-with-Pappu-Papa-2.jpg
  11. File:Ranveer-Singh-graces-the-screening-of-YRFs-short-film-Sex-Chat-with-Pappu-Papa-4.jpg
  12. File:Ranveer-Singh-graces-the-screening-of-YRFs-short-film-Sex-Chat-with-Pappu-Papa-5.jpg
  13. File:Ranveer-Singh-graces-the-screening-of-YRFs-short-film-Sex-Chat-with-Pappu-Papa-6.jpg
  14. File:Ranveer-Singh-graces-the-screening-of-YRFs-short-film-Sex-Chat-with-Pappu-Papa-7.jpg
  15. File:Ranveer-Singh-graces-the-screening-of-YRFs-short-film-Sex-Chat-with-Pappu-Papa-8.jpg
  16. File:Ranveer-Singh-graces-the-screening-of-YRFs-short-film-Sex-Chat-with-Pappu-Papa-9.jpg
Reviewed the first three, but the fourth (through ninth) are a problem.
Here is the BH page they're from: https://www.bollywoodhungama.com/news/parties-and-events/photos-kumar-sanu-snapped-recording-studio-romantic-song-khalli-balli/photos-kumar-sanu-snapped-at-a-recording-studio-for-a-romantic-song-for-khalli-balli-1 Now look at this: https://globalprimenews.com/2019/09/22/kumar-sanu-dubs-a-romantic-song-for-comedy-horror-film-khalli-balli/. Here's a higher resolution of the first one: https://globalprimenews.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/ekta-jainmanoj-sharmarohan-mehramadhookumar-sanushabbir-ahmed-punam-thakkar.jpg Clearly this wasn't made from the BH picture. I can't see any differences - the BH one is generally lighter, but otherwise seems pixel-for-pixel identical other than the watermark. This worries me because I've been going on the assumption that a BH watermark means they really owned the image, so can release it to us. If we can't assume that, that puts other BH images in doubt as well. I've been checking, and looked at hundreds of images, and that's been proven true so far, until now. I want to contact GlobalPrimeNews and/or Sachin Murdeshwar and ask what their relationship with BH is, especially about these photos. --GRuban (talk) 14:33, 19 November 2020 (UTC)
They've got a contact-us page, https://globalprimenews.com/contact-us/. Here is what I wrote:

I am an editor for Wikipedia and Wikimedia Commons, free online encyclopedia and image repository. In 2008, Bollywood Hungama, https://www.bollywoodhungama.com/, which was then called IndiaFM, gave us permission to use all their images from sets, parties, and press meetings under a free license, which means the world can use it. We saw this photo set on Bollywood Hungama: https://www.bollywoodhungama.com/news/parties-and-events/photos-kumar-sanu-snapped-recording-studio-romantic-song-khalli-balli/ and your photos at https://globalprimenews.com/2019/09/22/kumar-sanu-dubs-a-romantic-song-for-comedy-horror-film-khalli-balli/ The first image seems exactly the same, except for the Bollywood Hungama watermark but yours is higher resolution. Did you share it with Bollywood Hungama, and does Bollywood Hungama have the right to make it available under a free license? We, Wikipedia, have been using many images from Bollywood Hungama in our free encyclopedia, but if BH doesn't own the rights to those images, we can't use them. Please tell us what your relationship to BH is.

If they write back, we'll need to put that in the OTRS ticket that created the BH license. I really hope this doesn't end up cutting off our use of BH images, we use a lot of them. --GRuban (talk) 14:53, 19 November 2020 (UTC)
Let's hope they respond to our queries soon. What about the Ranveer Singh files. Are they suitable for Commons. Thanks --C1K98V (💬 ✒️ 📂) 15:47, 19 November 2020 (UTC)
Eh. I can't find those specific ones anywhere, though there clearly are a few web sites with photos from the same event. I guess we will delete the BH files (maybe the BH files after a certain date?) all at once if necessary, and I can approve them until then. --GRuban (talk) 19:24, 19 November 2020 (UTC)
Nuts. Please compare https://www.bollywoodhungama.com/news/parties-and-events/ranveer-singh-graces-screening-yrfs-short-film-sex-chat-pappu-papa/ranveer-singh-graces-the-screening-of-yrfs-short-film-sex-chat-with-pappu-papa-9/ to https://www.nowrunning.com/event/ranveer-singh-graces-the-screening-of-yrfs-short-film-sex-chat-with-pappu-papa/123047/, specifically to https://www.nowrunning.com/content/PhotoFeature/2016/RS-YRF-SF/RS-YRF-SF-16.jpg. Find a pixel of difference other than brightness or watermark. A hair out of place, a fold in clothing. Because I can't. I am worried that we have one image watermarked BH, and the exact same image watermarked NowRunning. Presumably one photographer sold the same image to both websites; but whom did he sell the copyright to? If the copyright owner is not BH, we can't use it. --GRuban (talk) 19:43, 19 November 2020 (UTC)
Sent a similar email to a couple of people listed on the NowRunning contact page. But, honestly, it doesn't look good. --GRuban (talk) 19:54, 19 November 2020 (UTC)
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Davidwr (talk) 20:31, 20 November 2020 (UTC)

I removed this after realizing you've been around for a long time. Please use the OTRS or a similar process so other editors don't "jump the gun" on this like I did. Davidwr (talk) 20:37, 20 November 2020 (UTC)
Hi, David. Nice to meet you! YouTube has a Creative Commons license that contributors can put on their videos, much like Flickr, Vimeo, etc. Please see Commons:Where_is_the_license_on_various_sites?#YouTube; the whole page for that is COM:WHERE for short. The entire point of those sites offering that feature is so we, or other users, don't need to use OTRS. Also do take a look at Commons:License review, which is there to confirm these licenses on web sites. --GRuban (talk) 20:41, 20 November 2020 (UTC)

Stagnation Point

Hello @GRuban: Winter has arrived, I hope you're doing well. Sadly, I'm confused and stuck at the stagnation point. May be you can address my concern and give me a resolution. Please see the files listed below from Bollywood Hungama

  1. File:Photos-Bhumi-Pednekar-snapped-during-Durgamati-The-Myth-promotions-1.jpg
  2. File:Photos-Bhumi-Pednekar-snapped-during-Durgamati-The-Myth-promotions-2.jpg
  3. File:Photos-Bhumi-Pednekar-snapped-during-Durgamati-The-Myth-promotions-3.jpg
  4. File:Photos-Bhumi-Pednekar-snapped-during-Durgamati-The-Myth-promotions-4.jpg

Yesterday around 19:00 IST or 20:00 IST or between 2pm to 3pm UTC I see a new event upload on Bollywood Hungama. But I was not having sufficient internet to download or upload it to commons. But I did google ris, but I didn't find any hits on web. So I left it for a while. Today morning around 1:30am UTC after downloading and before uploading the file on Commons. I did same google ris with the file. I found hits on the web, but their was a time frame mentioned for the file upload on other site rather than bollywood Hungama. The file was first uploaded on Bollywood Hungama then on other site. But Google ris show same day upload on Bollywood Hungama as well as other site. So my question is for instance "I as an volunteer found a file on 3rd, I upload the same file on 4th, while I did all fact checking before uploading. And the file was stack for license Review. A reviewer chose my upload to review after 10 days. S/He did google ris and found hits of the same day upload -- same source exact resolution while other site with lower and higher resolution? What would be the outcome of the license review. Will the Reviewer is going to do the review or the file should be deleted. Thanks for your consideration --C1K98V (💬 ✒️ 📂) 02:50, 4 December 2020 (UTC)

I'm not completely sure what you're asking, but I guess you want me to License review these files, or you're asking what another License reviewer would say? Honestly, the photos we discussed above on November 19 worry me. I emailed all three sites, Bollywood Hungama, Now Running, and Global Prime News, and no one wrote back. I am really hoping there is some explanation, because if we can't tell whether Bollywood Hungama files are really owned by Bollywood Hungama, we might not be able to trust the Bollywood Hungama release. For this specific set of images, are you referring to https://www.pinkvilla.com/entertainment/photos/photos-bhumi-pednekar-rocks-pant-suit-ensemble-she-goes-out-and-about-promoting-durgamati-myth-579593 ? Yes, those also seem quite similar. There is an email at https://www.pinkvilla.com/contactus, I can try to write there and see if they have an explanation. https://www.pinkvilla.com/node/293775 is a warning against uploading photos from other sites, so maybe this is a user generated site, and maybe they'll say "whoops, those are BH images". Or not. --GRuban (talk) 20:37, 4 December 2020 (UTC)
Yes I'm referring to license review of the file mentioned above, along with the explanation. The file was live on 3rd December Bollywood Hungama first, While I did google ris after 10 hours after upload. Their was hit available on google, but pinkvilla was nowhere. Pinkvilla article was live after 16 hours later. So we can assume and believe they have clicked when the actress was promoting her film. Thanks. --C1K98V (💬 ✒️ 📂) 03:36, 5 December 2020 (UTC)

Should we stop trusting Bollywood Hungama?

Hi! I can see that you have also been checking files from BH. It seems to me that there are many cases where the copyright is unclear. So I wonder if it is time to discuss if we should stop trusting that site. Have you research brought you any new information? --MGA73 (talk) 16:47, 7 December 2020 (UTC)

I think we need to have a large discussion about it, somewhere not just my talk page. Probably on Commons:Village pump/Copyright? And we want to get the participation of people who upload a lot of Bollywood Hungama images. I sent some emails to BH and a few of the other sites, but haven't gotten any responses. I see three options:
  1. Trust Bollywood Hungama files unless we can find the exact same file from another site
  2. Stop trusting Bollywood Hungama files after a certain date (the earliest date that we can find a probable copyright violation: the exact same file on Bollywood Hungama stamped with their mark, and another site not stamped with their mark; so far the earliest I see for that would be 2016, https://www.bollywoodhungama.com/news/parties-and-events/ranveer-singh-graces-screening-yrfs-short-film-sex-chat-pappu-papa/ranveer-singh-graces-the-screening-of-yrfs-short-film-sex-chat-with-pappu-papa-9/ compared to https://www.nowrunning.com/event/ranveer-singh-graces-the-screening-of-yrfs-short-film-sex-chat-with-pappu-papa/123047/)
  3. Stop trusting Bollywood Hungama files entirely (and remove the ones we have)
I really don't want to do #3, because we have so many great images from them, deleting them would be a noticeable blow to many India entertainment and related articles. However #1 is playing with fire. Commons:Project scope/Precautionary principle only says "significant doubt about the freedom of a particular file", but we have now found multiple files where there is significant doubt. If it were a Flickr user that had uploaded other people's images and claimed them as their own, we would add that user to Commons:Questionable Flickr images, and while that's not an absolute blacklist (as it says, "it is not impossible that a Flickr user could have uploaded some images they took that they did have rights to, and some images from another source that they did not"), we would need a very good reason to trust any of their images. I'm hoping that someone can find that very good reason, because BH has been a valuable source for us. --GRuban (talk) 17:29, 7 December 2020 (UTC)
Yes I agree that we need to discuss somewhere else than here. I just wanted to hear what you think because you have written to them and checked many photos from their website. I think that we need to be carefull and check Tineye and Google reverse search before reviewing. --MGA73 (talk) 18:08, 7 December 2020 (UTC)

Обнародование

  1. ст. 1256 - обнародование, не публикация
  2. Обнародование произведения - Обнародование произведения - это осуществление с согласия автора любого действия, благодаря которому произведение впервые становится доступным для публики. Обнародование и опубликование могут осуществляться один раз (первый и единственный) и для того, чтобы произведение считалось обнародованным или опубликованным достаточно и существовала, по крайней мере, потенциальная возможность ознакомления с произведением широкого круга лиц, и такая возможность была предоставлена с согласия автора. Ни слова о публикации в печати. Участник же играет словом publication. --VLu (talk) 18:21, 8 December 2020 (UTC)
Спасибо. Однако это тонкий юридический вопрос, который выше моих возможностей. Даже мой русский язык не идеален (первый язык, но не лучший), и я не могу спорить о таких сложных вопросах. --GRuban (talk) 20:52, 8 December 2020 (UTC)

Request: License review, need your verification help for Creative Commons images from Youtube

Hi @GRuban: Thanks for your update information, now I know which content that can be uploaded on Wikimedia commons. I'm just re-uploads more images from differences sources down below (License verification needed), all screenshoot images originally uploaded on Government sites or YouTube under a CC license. GRuban Thanks a lot for your instructions, I do definitely learn so much from you! --I Nyoman Gede Anila (talk) 22:16, 15 December 2020 (UTC)

@I Nyoman Gede Anila: Done, all good. A few minor notes:

  1. When you put in the YouTube link, like https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Ub9kgoVSRs&t=2s (in File:Elvira Devinamira The Best of Ini Talkshow.jpg) the &t=2s part at the end is the time in the video, in this case 2 seconds. So if you write "at 02:09" that would be &t=129s.
  2. At File:Artika Sari Devi Kusmayadi New Single.jpg you wrote "cropped, brightened, watermark removed". There is no watermark on the video. Watermark is what we call the text that is printed on the image, for example, in the previous video, there are a lot of them, "@Ini_Talkshow #Ini_Talkshow" in the middle bottom, "NET. HD" in the upper right, and "SELANJUTNYA THE EAST" in the upper left. When I write "watermark removed", that means that I edited the image to remove that text. For example, compare these two images I recently uploaded: there are a lot of minor changes, but do you see that the first one has "Huggins and Scott Auctions" at the bottom, in white text, and the second one doesn't? That's what I mean by watermark removal.
  3. At File:Achintya Holte Nilsen Miss World 2017.jpg, you write "at 02:17", but the YouTube video is only 2:16 long. I think you meant 2:13.

--GRuban (talk) 16:26, 15 December 2020 (UTC)

wikithanks @GRuban: Yes, I agree with your explanation above. Sorry for a lot of mistake I made, I think I should double check everything to make sure it's published correctly (PS. I will revise based on your notes). By the way, GRuban you did an amazing work! Thanks for doing the explanation so deeply too, so I can take a noted of it, in order for me to improve. Thanks a lot!🤝 --I Nyoman Gede Anila (talk) 00:49, 16 December 2020 (UTC)

December 16

Hi @GRuban: I'm back! Hope you're not bored with me!😂 I need your hand for helping me to verifying the images license down below.. By the way, Thanks before! --I Nyoman Gede Anila (talk) 04:33, 17 December 2020 (UTC)

Working. You don't have to use the ping template if you're writing on my talkpage, that notifies me anyway. First few images look good, but I am worried about File:Raden Roro Ayu Maulida Putri Senyum Desa.jpg, I'm afraid. https://kedirikota.go.id/p/dalamberita/7389/ayu-maulida--puteri-indonesia-2020--tidak-sempat-incip-pecel-kediri is a government site, but it says "Kediri, koranmemo.com" right at the top. I think the story and image are both from KoranMemo.com, which does not seem to be a government site, specifically https://koranmemo.com/ayu-maulida-puteri-indonesia-2020-tidak-sempat-incip-pecel-kediri/. If you disagree, please say. --GRuban (talk) 21:11, 16 December 2020 (UTC)
You're right I think the content wasn't belong to the Kediri government, but I'm not sure if the images belong to which parties. 🤔 I'm confused too. But I think deleting that image>>File:Raden Roro Ayu Maulida Putri Senyum Desa.jpg would be okay to prevent disputed copyright holder.--I Nyoman Gede Anila (talk) 05:19, 17 December 2020 (UTC)
Hi GRuban, I'm just uploading some images again..--I Nyoman Gede Anila (talk) 18:58, 17 December 2020 (UTC)
P.S. for your information about this image -> File:Raden Roro Ayu Maulida Putri Winner Grand Prize Winner Face of Asia 2019 (2).jpg, there's a text Jatim Newsrom/Jatim Newsroom on the first line, it's Not from another media but it's a news section made by Jatim Kominfo (Jatim refer to Jawa Timur/East Java, one of the province in Indonesia; Kominfo means Kementerian Komunikasi dan Informatika Republik Indonesia/Ministry of Communication and Information Technology). As you can see from Jatim Kominfo government website HERE (Official website of Pemerintah Provinsi Jawa Timur/The Government of East Java) and HERE (Official instagram of Pemerintah Provinsi Jawa Timur/The Government of East Java), they naming this news section as Jatim newsroom as well, all made by Ministry of Communication and Information Technology. Another province also has their own newsroom like Jateng newsroom (for Jawa Tengah province/Central Java) HERE on the email section you can subscribe Jateng newsroom by emailing to newsroom@jatengprov.go.id. Hope my information is helping. Thanks. --I Nyoman Gede Anila (talk) 21:25, 17 December 2020 (UTC)
It also has a pretty clear watermark (that term again!) from the Face of Asia competition itself in the upper left corner. It may not be obvious that's not just a sign on the wall behind the people, but compare it to other Face of Asia images, and you'll see it's a watermark on the image. I think that's an image from the Face of Asia organization, and not from the Indonesian government. The next one doens't have such a watermark. --GRuban (talk) 13:31, 17 December 2020 (UTC)
I think this 2 images should be deleted then. Please check for the other images also... --I Nyoman Gede Anila (talk) 22:08, 17 December 2020 (UTC)
Hi GRuban Just want to make sure, in case you're missing to check this 6 images, it wasn't reviewed yet. Please review the license Sorry If I'm bothering you, but Thanks a lot for your work before!!--I Nyoman Gede Anila (talk) 21:53, 20 December 2020 (UTC)

Approved the first three, not sure about the last three. Maybe you can help.

  • File:Andi Tenri Gusti Harnum Utari Natassa Dewan Perwakilan Rakyat.jpg This is from a government document, but isn't it a list of candidates for government office? I retyped the first line into Google Translate, and it came out "LIST OF LIFE HISTORY BAKAL PROSPECTIVE MEMBERS OF THE DPR (House of Representatives)" In other words, when this was published, was the subject already working for the government? Because if she wasn't, then, unless it specifically says "this photo was taken by (Government agency)", I would imagine the photo was taken by someone working for the candidate, who wasn't working for the government yet. Or does the document say something that means this was a government photo after all? --GRuban (talk) 17:51, 20 December 2020 (UTC)
Approved the other two, after looking into it. The Arman Febryan one worried me because his "About" page said he was a 19 year old student, but after looking more, that must have been from when he started the account in 2014. --GRuban (talk) 18:08, 20 December 2020 (UTC)
  • File:Andi Tenri Gusti Harnum Utari Natassa Dewan Perwakilan Rakyat.jpg For this image, On the last page on source she's agree that all of the data on papers can be used as the government data, which also allowing to use it for publicity (publicized to the public). That's why its uploaded on the government website as a public content, and afterall she's allowing the whole content to be used as the government data and publicized to the public, she's approving that by signing the letter with a Stamp duty on it and also her party "Partai Hati Nurani Rakyat (HANURA)" signing the letter as an approval or allowing to be publicized to the public.
(on the last page of PDF source) translation from Bahasa Indonesia to English;
17. Demikian daftar riwayat hidup ini dibuat dengan sesungguhnya untuk dapat digunakan sebagai bukti pemenuhan persyaratan bakal calon Anggota DPR sebagaimana dimaksud dalam Pasal 19 huruf n Peraturan Komisi Pemilihan Umum Nomor 07 Tahun 2013 tentang Pencalonan Anggota Dewan Perwakilan Rakyat. Dewan Perwakilan Rakyat Daerah Provinsi dan Dewan Perwakilan Rakyat Daerah Kabupaten Kota dan saya bersedia untuk dipublikasikan kepada masyarakat. (Yang menyatakan Andi Tenri Gusti Harnum Utari Natassa dan yang mengetahui Partai Hati Nurani Rakyat (HANURA); masing-masing menandatangani.)
17. Thereby this whole biography content was made and prepared to be used as an evidence of fulfilling the requirements for a candidate for People's Representative Council of Indonesia Member as referred to in Article letter number 19-letter N, General Election Commission Regulation Number 07 of 2013 concerning the nomination of Members of the People's Representative Council of Indonesia, The Provincial People's Representative Council and the City/Regency Regional People's Representative Council and I allowing to be publicized to the public. (which stated and approved by Andi Tenri Gusti Harnum Utari Natassa and Partai Hati Nurani Rakyat (HANURA); each of them signing.)--I Nyoman Gede Anila (talk) 22:00, 21 December 2020 (UTC)
OK, thanks! I'll cite that translation in my license review on the image page. (Arguably it should be on the image talk page, but I want it prominent in case someone questions the licensing.) --GRuban (talk) 14:36, 21 December 2020 (UTC)
perfect! once again Thank you so much GRuban for helping me and spending your time on reviewing my uploads! 🤩You're awesome! --I Nyoman Gede Anila (talk) 00:05, 22 December 2020 (UTC)

Request: License review

Hi GRuban, thanks for your instructions that you have given to me earlier. Can you verify the license for File:Nelydia Senrose on MeleTOP.jpg that I uploaded today, to confirm it has a Creative Commons license. Hope you can brighten the picture as well. Thank you in advance.–Fandi89 (talk) 06:52, 25 December 2020 (UTC)

✓ Done: The brightening seems to be taking its time to show up, but it will. I use Microsoft Photos which came with my Windows box; if you have a Windows machine, it should be free, you can follow the link in our article about it if you don't have it already. More often than not I can go to the "Filters" page, click "Enhance your photo", and it does most of the right thing; after which I sometimes go to the Adjustments page and play with Light, Color, Clarity and Vignette. If you don't have a Windows machine (or even if you do - it's cross platform), you can get GIMP which is tougher to use, but does all that and more, and is also free. --GRuban (talk) 13:52, 25 December 2020 (UTC)
Looks great, thank you for spending your time to review the pictures. I've learnt so much from you.–Fandi89 (talk) 15:49, 25 December 2020 (UTC)

More images

Hi! I'm back! I need your help to review and verify the license for the images below that I uploaded today, also from MeleTOP to confirm it has a Creative Commons license. Thank you.–Fandi89 (talk) 09:20, 31 December 2020 (UTC)

✓ Done --GRuban (talk) 13:44, 31 December 2020 (UTC)

Your point

Hi,

Your point is well heeded and taken with a grain of salt. I will certainly add no more on this topic. - Bossanoven (talk) 20:48, 25 December 2020 (UTC)

Copyright status: File:Vladimir Putin tours Yevgeny Prigozhin's Concord food catering factory 06.jpg

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Sigh. Fixed. --GRuban (talk) 19:31, 29 December 2020 (UTC)