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File:Saxon-Knights-shield.jpg[edit]

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AndreasPraefcke (talk) 12:25, 21 December 2010 (UTC)


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Category:Astarte (goddess)[edit]

If you can't tell the difference between "bosheth" and "basket"[sic], then maybe you shouldn't be the one to add "information" of this nature... AnonMoos (talk) 00:29, 10 June 2011 (UTC)

Nevertheless, the Commons category page is not the place for an extended disquisition of that type (especially since the category is "Astarte", not "Ashtoreth"). AnonMoos (talk) 22:45, 11 June 2011 (UTC)

File:Statuette Goddess Louvre AO20127.jpg[edit]

Unfortunately, what you added contradicts what was already there. AnonMoos (talk) 00:29, 10 June 2011 (UTC)

File:Astarte with horns.jpg[edit]

If most scholars say it's a crescent, why are you saying it's horns? Wouldn't horns usually be depicted more above the ears, rather than right on top of the head? AnonMoos (talk) 22:55, 11 June 2011 (UTC)

If you want kind-of-crescents which are also kind-of-horns, then I already uploaded an image almost two years ago, which shows this: File:RWS02 High-Priestess crown.svg. However, I don't think that File:Astarte with horns.jpg really qualifies... AnonMoos (talk) 01:26, 13 June 2011 (UTC)

File:Moon Goddess Tanit.jpg[edit]

That this particular archaeological artefact represents a "Moon Goddess Tanit" is pretty much pure speculation... AnonMoos (talk) 22:55, 11 June 2011 (UTC)

If it's not worthy of mention in the en:Lady of Elche article, then it's fairly pointless and counterproductive for you to be spinning elaborate theories here on Commons... AnonMoos (talk) 01:30, 13 June 2011 (UTC)
P.S. Did you personally take that photograph? If you scanned it in from a book, then its copyright status is likely to be quite dubious... AnonMoos (talk) 01:33, 13 June 2011 (UTC)

You haven't violated any Commons policies as such yet, as far as I know, but unfortunately very little of what you do here usefully helps towards achieving the goals of Commons... AnonMoos (talk) 00:13, 14 June 2011 (UTC)

Please try to conduct your activities on Commons in a way which leads to a useful result, rather than merely indulging your personal (and apparently somewhat eccentric) beliefs[edit]

Unfortunately, the category you created Category:Horned Goddess was basically completely and utterly useless here, since 1) Depictions of women/goddesses with crescents on their heads are not usually considered to be "horned". 2) The Hathor headdress is more often depicted as a horned crown, rather than someone with horns growing directly out of her head (as would seem to be implied by the term "Horned goddess"). 3) There is no real commonality or accepted relationship/connection between women/goddesses with crescents on their heads and the Hathor headdress (except in your own mind). 4) There is no pre-existing established "meme" of a horned goddess (the way that there is a pre-existing established horned god of Wicca etc.). I just now created Category:Women with a crescent on their head, which salvages what is somewhat useful from your failed experiment... AnonMoos (talk) 07:33, 14 June 2011 (UTC)

Whatever, dude -- I'm not particularly "stalking" you, but I have 13,708 pages on my watchlist, the majority of them images which are symbolic in some capacity. Some of your statements have some degree of validity; nevertheless the category "Horned Goddess" in the form in which you set it up involved a large amount of Begging the question and had no real usefulness here on Wikimedia Commons... AnonMoos (talk) 01:29, 16 June 2011 (UTC)
P.S. I was the one who uploaded the image File:RWS02 High-Priestess crown.svg (which shows a certain real commonality between horns and crescents), over a year before you made your first edit here, but I didn't use it to push a bunch of historically-dubious theories... AnonMoos (talk) 01:38, 16 June 2011 (UTC)

I'm sorry if we got off on the wrong foot, but the first edit of yours that I encountered to a page on my watchlist -- the addition of an irrelevant ranting tirade in which Hebrew "bosheth" somehow came out as "basket"(!!) -- really did not inspire great confidence... AnonMoos (talk) 02:36, 16 June 2011 (UTC)

P.S. You can still establish a category for the Hathor head-dress, Hathor crown, or Hathor disk-with-horns -- the objection to the other category was the indiscriminate mingling of the Hathor crown with women with a crescent on their head... AnonMoos (talk) 03:53, 19 June 2011 (UTC)

Tip: Categorizing images[edit]

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Hello, Camocon!

Tip: Add categories to your images

Thanks a lot for contributing to the Wikimedia Commons! Here's a tip to make your uploads more useful: Why not add some categories to describe them? This will help more people to find and use them.

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File:Moon_Goddess_Tanit.jpg[edit]

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— Cheers, JackLee talk 18:58, 1 July 2011 (UTC)

File:Baal symbol.png[edit]

Hate to be ultra-picky, but is this a pure personal invention on your part? If so, you need to add it to Category:Neopagan symbols, and if not, it would be nice to give some kind of source... AnonMoos (talk) 14:25, 2 July 2011 (UTC)

It in fact does not include the most well-known and widely-attested forms of the Tanit symbol (see File:Tanit-Symbol.svg, File:Tanit-Symbol-alternate.svg, File:Flag Tanit Symbol.svg etc.). And you didn't answer my question -- if only modern, it needs to go into Category:Neopagan symbols; if ancient, it will need some kind of source before it can be incorporated into a Wikipedia article... AnonMoos (talk) 18:41, 2 July 2011 (UTC)

Category:Horns with solar disk headdresses[edit]

Don't want to always be finding fault, but it should really be "Solar disk headdresses with horns"... AnonMoos (talk) 03:24, 19 July 2011 (UTC)

Categories can't be directly renamed here; the only way is to create a new category with the new name and move all the images to it. P.S. "Horned headdresses with solar discs" would also be OK... AnonMoos (talk) 05:25, 20 July 2011 (UTC)
Penrose pentagram.svg

P.S.[edit]

The phrase "horned goddess" is actually included in the appendix to Frank Herbert's classic science-fiction novel "Dune"! -- AnonMoos (talk) 01:13, 25 July 2011 (UTC)

File:Punic sarcophagus of Goddess.png[edit]

The description of the original image (File:Sarcophages carthage 1.jpg) doesn't say anything about a "goddess", and sculptures in that position -- lying down on top of a sarcophagus -- are ordinarily interpreted as representations of the dead person... AnonMoos (talk) 02:33, 2 October 2011 (UTC)

If that same statue were standing in a niche, then it could easily be a goddess depiction (for anything I know to the contrary) -- but a statue lying down on top of a sarcophagus is commonly primarily interpreted as a depiction of the dead person, and it would usually require specific evidence to arrive at a contrary conclusion. Unfortunately, you sometimes have a tendency to include boldly speculative identifications in your image titles (as when you labelled the Lady of Elche "Moon_Goddess_Tanit.jpg); it would really be better to confine such boldness to the text of the image description page, and be more conservative in your choice of image names... AnonMoos (talk) 05:54, 3 October 2011 (UTC)

File:Baalat Sidon.png[edit]

Unfortunately that image "Christianizes" the fish depiction seen in File:Tophet Carthage.5.jpg, in a manner which both some Christians and some Neopagans would probably consider to be inappropriate... AnonMoos (talk) 03:06, 2 October 2011 (UTC)

A fish in the abstract can be either pagan (Dagon or Oannes), Jewish (book of Tobit), Christian (Ichthys symbol), etc. However, when you redrew the stone inscription in File:Tophet Carthage.5.jpg you redrew the fish to to have a particular visual form which specifically resembles a common Christian symbol -- something which both some Christians and some Neopagans would probably find offensive... AnonMoos (talk) 05:47, 3 October 2011 (UTC)

File:Star of Shamash.png[edit]

That file is very useful, but appears to have technical issues. I eliminated the internal "flecking", but that also eliminated background transparency. Feel free to revert... AnonMoos (talk) 22:47, 5 October 2011 (UTC)

P.S. I tried to do simplified versions of the Ishtar star (see File:Ishtar-star-symbol-simplified.svg, File:Ishtar-star-symbol-simplified-filled.svg), but probably not all that successfully. User Raphael_75 then did the less simplistic versions File:Ishtar-star-symbol.svg, File:Ishtar-star-symbol-encircled.svg... AnonMoos (talk) 22:56, 5 October 2011 (UTC)
There's already Category:Archaeological star glyphs (though that doesn't cover similar modern symbols). AnonMoos (talk) 02:13, 12 October 2011 (UTC)

File:Star of Ishtar.png[edit]

Just now saw this one. If you had asked me, I could have done a simplified version of my SVG File:Iraq state emblem CoA 1959-1965 Qassem.svg which would have avoided the technical problems seen in your PNG. Meanwhile, there's a problem with the file, in that the red parts of File:Iraq state emblem CoA 1959-1965 Qassem.svg could be considered to be a form of the Star of Ishtar, but the red and yellow parts (i.e. straight and wavy rays) together would seem to form a Shamash sun symbol... AnonMoos (talk) 00:03, 6 October 2011 (UTC)

P.S. Thanks for pointing out File:Victory stele of Naram Sin 9071.jpg... AnonMoos (talk) 00:10, 6 October 2011 (UTC)
Put kudurru ishtar into the search form to see others (not all enclosed in a circle)... AnonMoos (talk) 02:19, 12 October 2011 (UTC)

Category:Levantine mythology[edit]

Good solid useful category, but some people would probably prefer "Canaanite"... AnonMoos (talk) 00:51, 24 November 2011 (UTC)

File:Chorazin Seat of Moses.jpg[edit]

Don't want to be too prosaic, but it looks to me to be more of an ordinary decorative rosette than a Star of Shamash symbol... AnonMoos (talk) 06:56, 1 December 2011 (UTC)

Response: User_talk:AnonMoos#Re:_File:Chorazin_Seat_of_Moses.jpg
It could be symbolic or decorative or both, but it doesn't look too much like the Star of Shamash symbol. P.S. The Star of David was chosen as a Jewish community symbol in Prague in the late middle ages apparently because it was not a traditional Jewish religious symbol (like the Menorah)... AnonMoos (talk) 19:13, 1 December 2011 (UTC)

File:Neanderthal_animation_of_evolution.gif[edit]

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File:Qetesh_Kim_Kardashian_reconstruction.png[edit]

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LX (talk, contribs) 19:34, 21 December 2011 (UTC)

File:Kim_Kardashian-Nefertiti_facial_reconstruction.png[edit]

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LX (talk, contribs) 19:41, 21 December 2011 (UTC)

Incorrect authorship and PD claims for File:Divine couple in religion.png and other files[edit]

File:Sarcophages carthage 1.jpg is protected by copyright. However, the author has kindly allowed anyone to use it freely provided that they comply with its licensing requirements – mainly by (1) attributing the author and (2) preserve the copyright and license notices. That's not really much to ask for, but you did neither. Instead, you claimed that you were the author and copyright holder and that it's not protected by copyright. You do not become the author or copyright holder of someone else's work by cropping it, and you cannot release other people's works into the public domain.

I've corrected your claims in relation to this file. Please go through all your uploads and correct all instances of similar copyright problems. At the very least, the following need to be corrected: File:Sun with face decoration at Jewish synagogue in Chorazin.jpg, File:Chorazin Seat of Moses.jpg, File:Natib Qadish Portal Banner.gif, File:Close-Up-Without-Ceiling.jpg, File:Temple-of-Solomon-Exterior.jpg, File:Close-Up.jpg, File:Dodge Challenger (source)-2.png, File:Dodge Challenger (source).jpg, File:Van icon.png, File:Egyptianized Resheph.png, File:Anat Canaanite goddess.png, File:Punic earrings.png, File:Six-point star from Stela of Ur-Nammu.png, File:Viking statue.png, File:Sacred Mother Reborn.png, File:Carthaginian angel.png, File:Horned Altar.jpg, File:Punic sarcophagus of Goddess.png, File:Baetylus (sacred stone) on four-horse chariot.jpg, File:Baetylus (sacred stone).jpg, File:Natib Qadish Hamsa.jpg (and all other uploads clearly derived from the same source), File:Gerald Gardner (sketch).jpg (clearly someone else's photo that you just applied a filter to), File:Anton LaVey (sketch).jpg (same), and File:Bat atop Narmer Palette.jpg. LX (talk, contribs) 20:33, 21 December 2011 (UTC)

WTF[edit]

If I were to try to elevate any woman into an ancient Egyptian goddess, I would really not choose Kim Kardashian (probably the majority of people in the U.S. in 15 years will have difficulty remembering who she was, not to mention the rest of the globe...). -- AnonMoos (talk) 07:33, 22 December 2011 (UTC)

Merry Christmas and Happy New Year[edit]

Hi Camocon,
Merry Christmas and Happy New Year - 1908 Australian postcard.png
Hindustanilanguage (talk) 09:20, 26 December 2011 (UTC).

You might like this[edit]

File:RPM Peru 052.jpg... -- AnonMoos (talk) 09:38, 7 January 2012 (UTC)

I like it :) --Camocon (talk) 20:52, 9 January 2012 (UTC)

File:Gerald_Gardner_(sketch).jpg[edit]

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File:Anton LaVey (sketch).jpg[edit]

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File:1965 Plymouth Super Stock.jpg[edit]

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