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I nearly forgot: Thanks Yann :o) --Christian NurtschTM 09:53, 23 June 2007 (UTC)

Thank you[edit]

Just fly and go the right way
In this Image you can see me!

Thanks for your Vote (support) at my stopped RFA. Even if it is stopped, it was a nice experience for me and I learned from it. Perhaps I´ll try it again in a few month, and I would be happy if you would give your vote (best a support;)) again. Thank you again, __ ABF __ 12:12, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

Try it again when the time is ripe. ;) --Christian NurtschTM 12:46, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

images deleted[edit]

thanks christian for your help and no problemo for the images deleted (i made something wrong, i know) - - - questions 1) where can i train my hability to upload + 2) the images i will upload on common will be availaible on any wiki in any language?! Bjorkfan 07:56, 25 September 2007 (UTC)

Hello Bjorkfan, I left you a message on your talk page that shows the most important things. Attention should be paid to the licensing of your images. Yes, every image you upload to Commons will be displayed in any wiki of the Wikimedia Foundation. --Christian NurtschTM 08:22, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
thanks, i'll have a look - - - by the way, the images i uploaded belong to the "fair use" licence (plus: pirating "pirate images" is an interesting aspect of rights or no rights) : deleting them was too quick, i could even not react... Bjorkfan 12:36, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
Well, in general all covers are fair use images, and fair use is not allowed on Commons. The only way is, that the work is released into public domain by the copyright holder. --Christian NurtschTM

Images from U.S.Forest Service Database[edit]

Cropping is not all that is needed with many of those scans I found at that database. I paused before uploading them and considered cleaning them up. They are so cool, some photographs from the 1920's! There is an email address there which I intend to write to to get the higher resolution images that they said they had. It is one of the reasons that I am making sure I note the image number on the uploads. I am going to ask that you consider not suggesting work on the smaller images but instead see if you can or wait until I or somebody else gets access to the higher resolution images. The scans are not of bad quality as they are, but they can be better. I am also wondering if grayscaled png would be better than the jpeg for such images.

I continued to upload the smaller images for several reasons. That database is really slow -- slow enough that I feel bad for the computer that is serving the images. The information presented for each image is good, but perhaps could be better. For instance, I have put a few images of law enforcement people and construction workers in the category of the city they were photographed in and I don't know if that is the right approach. This upload was to get the information in place and the license and all of that. Later, it should be easier to work with the larger images when cleaning and cropping can be concentrated upon.

I feel like I have actually accomplished something when I put an image into 1928. Cleaning it and making it bigger and better will be the same kind of kick, I think. Thanks -- carol 23:08, 28 September 2007 (UTC)

You're right, it doesn't make sense to keep tagging those images until they are larger. Those images are really nice and would be even better in a higher resolution. Maybe we should remove the {{crop}}-tags again? --Christian NurtschTM 07:38, 29 September 2007 (UTC)

crops, et al.[edit]

Thanks for the attention to my images, with tags and so forth. I am giving some consideration to how to manage them best, some items are just being trialled - and so on. In dealing with some images, I will make sure they are cropped etc, with the greatest retention of information. Any contributions for use at wikisource, for example, should remain unmodified. Can I suggest that those images that can be enhanced be re-uploaded under another name, Image (crop).jpg, or whatever. I found that an slightly skewed image had been trimmed, it was not an enhancement in my opinion. I tend not to watch things here, I'm not sure others do either, so perhaps erring on the side of caution is best. Hope my thoughts on this are helpful. Regards, Cygnis insignis 12:40, 29 September 2007 (UTC)

Maybe we should create a tag that points out that reworking of images is undesirable. In the case of your image(s) I just thought a crop would be useful. My bad! --Christian NurtschTM 06:38, 30 September 2007 (UTC)
I don't know what the solution is, I do think that cropped pictures are useful. Reworking is desirable, but the uploader may need to be aware of it. Perhaps a tag that suggests creating an alternate and enhanced version? Many of the wikisource pages would be in large numbers; I think a tag has been suggested there to state something like "... this is an original scan and should not be altered, a modified image can be uploaded to a new name ... ", this could be added to the scans. If someone was able to create a template, it would be useful. Cygnis insignis 10:01, 30 September 2007 (UTC)
Template:Original is used in a similar way, but it's just for obsolete images. I created a prototype of a template for scans: User:Christian Nurtsch/Scan. Maybe you can improve it a bit ;o) Christian NurtschTM 12:15, 30 September 2007 (UTC)
Cheers! I will take it round to source and see what they think. Cygnis insignis 12:46, 30 September 2007 (UTC)
Great work on that template. I don't think we need to create a separate template though—Template:Original can be modified to treat both cases. --Spangineeren ws (háblame) 02:39, 11 October 2007 (UTC)


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Image Tagging Image:Icon_03092_().jpg[edit]

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Thanks for uploading Image:Icon_03092_().jpg. I notice the image page currently doesn't specify who created the content, so the copyright status is unclear. If you have not created this media yourself then you need to argue that we have the right to use the media on Wikimedia Commons (see copyright tagging below). If you have not created the media yourself then you should also specify where you found it, i.e., in most cases link to the website where you got it, and the terms of use for content from that page. If the content is a derivative of a copyrighted work, you need to supply the names and a licence of the original authors as well.

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Hello and thanks for your message, but I'm not the original uploader of the image. --Christian NurtschTM 18:05, 20 October 2007 (UTC)


Hello, I just had a look at your contribution list, and I like what I see. Have you thought about requesting adminship? LX (talk, contribs) 10:56, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

Actually, it's a good idea. But isn't it a bit early? I have just around 600 edits. --Christian NurtschTM 11:05, 3 November 2007 (UTC)
The normal expectation is that you should have 200 edits, which you easily meet. I'd personally like to see at least 500 or so, and others might think that 600 is still too few, but ultimately, I think it's the nature of the contributions that matter most.
However, if you feel like you want more experience, then nobody is going to pressure you into applying early. Just know that if you do choose to file a request, you have at least one vote of support. You seem to tag images judiciously, and we could definitely use more people to act on the speedies as opposed to just tagging them. In any case, do keep up the good work. :) LX (talk, contribs) 11:26, 3 November 2007 (UTC)
Thank you for that great feedback. Maybe, I'll try it in a month or two. At least I'll try to carry on my work on Commons as hitherto ;)--Christian NurtschTM 11:42, 3 November 2007 (UTC)
When you get to decide I'd be likely to support you too. Getting more experience is always better than trying to quickly though - thanks for the work dealing with the "test" material, regards --Herby talk thyme 17:01, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

Please justify your action[edit]

Why did you revert here? There is no proof that the author of the artwork gave his/her permission. Lycaon 12:53, 11 November 2007 (UTC)

User:Tomascastelazo stated that he's the author of the image. For the copyright of the sculptures, see en:Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/La Catrina and Commons:Featured picture candidates/Image:Catrinas 2.jpg. --Christian NurtschTM 14:56, 11 November 2007 (UTC)

What is a crop?[edit]

Hello, I uploaded Image:Moulin blanlhac.jpg‎ from the french wikipédia; I have at least to prevent the image from deletion at commons, because it soon will disappear at wikipédia. You gave it a crop tag. I don't know that tag. What does it mean, is there a risk of deletion? What has to be done and couldn't you do that yourself instead of tagging it? Cheers Havang 16:21, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

Salut, the {{crop}}-tag doesn't stand for a risk of deletion. It signalizes just, that the related image should have its border removed. I would have done it, but there is sometimes not enough time. So it's better, to tag images first to stay on top of things. Regards, Christian NurtschTM 17:53, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

Photo Hess[edit]

I am very sorry about the problem for my photo Esther Hess. I do not know what to do for this problem . If somebody can delete my photo and put agin the firt photo, I thank you. After, I give another name for my photo Esther Hess.

--Pantalaskas 20:26, 18 November 2007 (UTC)

Alright, the problem is now solved. You may upload the image of Esther Hess now with a different name. Best regards, Christian NurtschTM 20:33, 18 November 2007 (UTC)

Thank you very much for defending my user talk page![edit]

Your help is very much appreciated!   — Jeff G. (talk|contribs) 21:14, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

No problem :) --Christian NurtschTM 13:25, 21 November 2007 (UTC)

Thank you[edit]

for the English-corrections! :-) --Luxo 21:20, 22 November 2007 (UTC)

Think nothing of it ;) --Christian NurtschTM 08:30, 23 November 2007 (UTC)

Image:Beethoven piano.jpg[edit]

Your addition of the {{cover}} template to Image:Beethoven piano.jpg was wrong as the uploader had not claimed 'fair use', and that template explicitly states "This template should only be used for obvious cases, and only where the contributor has explicitly claimed fair use; use {{delete}} for others". The uploader had already been warned about the lack of license, and I was trying to work with this new user to show her what was required. --Tony Wills 10:41, 25 November 2007 (UTC)

Well, I guess {{copyvio}} would have been better. But of course it was a fair-use image, the uploader just didn't claim it. However, both templates have the same function. --Christian NurtschTM 17:00, 25 November 2007 (UTC)
The user had asked for help on User:Siebrand's page after the first warning, and I thought this new warning was battering this new user about the head too much :-). If I get no response then I will post a {{copyvio}} or {{delete}} request. I will remove the {{cover}} template in the meantime. Thanks :-) --Tony Wills 21:04, 25 November 2007 (UTC)

cropped image[edit]

Hi, you put on a tag about cropping this image, Image:A tomb in MacDufie's Chapel, Oronsay, 1772.png, and i just uploaded a cropped version. Is it ok if i take off the crop tag now?--Celtus 09:47, 16 December 2007 (UTC)

But of course :o) Christian NurtschTM 11:06, 16 December 2007 (UTC)

Adminship (again)[edit]

Wollen Sie ihm einen Versuch geben? ;-) --Boricuæddie 15:00, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

It's worth trying. Let's see what the community thinks :) --Christian NurtschTM 15:54, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

Auch wenns dich nicht mehr lange betrifft:[edit]

Speedy-deletion tags bitte unterschreiben und nicht den (meistens grossen Mist) der da vorher steht löschen ;) Grüße von Ganz vielen Bären und schonmal vorab frohe Willkür, __ ABF __ ϑ 19:46, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

Muss wohl in Gedanken passiert sein :) Danke. --Christian NurtschTM 19:49, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

Glückwunsch, lieber Administrator![edit]

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Ein Willkommenspräsent für unseren neuen Administrator von deinen Kollegen...

Nagy, herzlichen Glückwunsch! Du hast jetzt die Rechte eines Administrators auf Commons.

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Thank you! --Christian NurtschTM 19:37, 14 January 2008 (UTC)
Congratulations! --Boricuæddie 01:09, 16 January 2008 (UTC)
Congratulations and thanks :-) I should have found the problem, gonna fix ;-) --Filnik 14:35, 23 January 2008 (UTC)
(Seems) Fixed ;-) If you see other spam-bots block 'em all :-D Thanks again, bye, --Filnik 14:57, 23 January 2008 (UTC)


Mein monobook ist angesichts von dem wohl auch was für dich ;) Grüße, abf /talk to me/ 15:06, 14 February 2008 (UTC) P.S.: Ich hoffe dich mal wieder im IRC zu sehen ;)

Category:NASCAR Busch Series[edit]

Is there any possibility to move the category to Category:Nationwide Series?--Dany3000 16:16, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

Yes, of course. Simply create that category, rename the old one in all images and request the old category's speedy deletion with {{speedy delete|reason}} or ask me again ;-). A real movement like it's possible with normal pages is unfortunately not possible with categories (meaning that we have to work a bit more). →Christian NurtschTM 16:29, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

thanks--Dany3000 12:39, 23 February 2008 (UTC)

Thank you for doing the transition, Dany! Could this former category be reinstated and changed into a redirect since people might be looking for the series under its former name? Royalbroil 13:08, 24 February 2008 (UTC)

✓ DoneChristian NurtschTM 13:17, 24 February 2008 (UTC)

Vesuvio oder Mount Vesuvius?[edit]

Hallo Christian, ich habe die ganze riesen BilderSammlung [Category:Mount Vesuvius] geordnet und unterteilt, nach dem ich alle Bilder die ich gefunden habe, zusammengetragen habe. Nun die Category ist jetzt ziemlich reich und unterscheidet. Leider gab es diese Redirect von "Mount Vesuvius" zu "Vesuvio": dies ist eine Auslese, eine Bilder Gallerie. Also wer "Mount Vesuvius" sucht, kommt nicht auf die vollständige Categorie, sondern wird auf die minimale Galerie umgeleitet, was ich nicht korrekt finde. Wer bilder sucht soll auf eine vollständige Categorie landen, wovon er dann auslesen kann, und nicht auf eine bescheidene Auslese Gallerie. Darum habe ich die Redirect gelöscht und die Gallerie "Vesuvio" in die [Category Mount Vesuvius] eingefügt (also sie gehört jetzt zu einer der vielen Auslese Möglichkeiten). Ich glaube dass es sinnvoll wäre wenn sie ihre Korrektur wieder rückgängig machten. Oder sonst dass die [Category:Mount Vesuvius] in [Category:Vesuvio]] umgetauft wird. Herzlichen Dank dafür! Weiter stehe ich ihnen zur Verfügung. --DenghiùComm 15:12, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

Okay, die Sache ist einfacher als ich dachte. Ich habe Mount Vesuvius mal auf Category:Mount Vesuvius umgeleitet. Dort befinden sich ja auch Links zu den Gallerieseiten. Ich hoffe das ist so in Ordnung. Grüße, →Christian 22:26, 14 March 2008 (UTC)
Perfekt! Wunderbar! Herzlichen Dank nochmals! --DenghiùComm 23:46, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

Diskriminierung von Administrator[edit]

"User:Polarlys" tut mir meine Seite hier ständig löschen, obwohl ich da einen Text von mir da Hereingeschrieben hab. Dann habe ich eine Liste mit Links eingefügt und der kommt mir Kopiergeschützte Werke an, um mit dieser Seite Unfug anzustellen. Der hat die geschützt, obwohl ich da 'reingeschrieben habe, dass ich selber jeder hier editieren darf. Dann habe ich den aufgefrordert das rückgängig zu machen und der hat es nicht gemacht. Das ist Vandalismus! Ich habe gegen keine Regel verstoßen. Nun hat der mich gauf meiner eigenen Benutzerseite gesperrt, obwohl ich nur meinen eigenen Text da hereingeschrieben habe!!!--The User 09:07, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

Wäre besser, wenn du das auf Commons:Administrators' noticeboard bzw. einer der Unterseiten ansprichst, als es auf jede einzelne Diskussionsseite von deutsch-sprechenden Admins zu schreiben. Dann lässt sich besser gemeinsam diskutieren. →Christian 09:14, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
Der Nutzer, der hier in der Vergangenheit übrigens hunderte Urheberrechtsverletzungen reingestellt hat, aufgrund von „hate speech“, persönlichen Angriffen und ideologisch verbrämter Arbeitsweise auf und wiederholt gesperrt wurde (mit einer ganzen Armada von Sockenpuppen), der TU und SLUB Dresden mehrere Abuse-Meldungen eingebracht hat, hat Texte von kopiert und war zudem mal wieder in seiner „In-der-BRD-wird-gedopt-während-unsere-heldenhaften-DDR-Athleten-inklusive-die-Schwimmerinnen-mit-den-Bärten-ihre-Medaillien-ohne Doping-gewonnen-haben“-Mission unterwegs. Das steht in krassem Widerspruch zu COM:SCOPE. --Polarlys 11:45, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
[1] --> user bloced for 1 day. abf /talk to me/ 09:55, 25 March 2008 (UTC)


Lust mal vorbeizukommen? abf /talk to me/ 10:12, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

Image:Bowen, from Flagstaff Hill.jpg[edit]

Hi, you apparently deleted Image:Bowen, from Flagstaff Hill.jpg. I think the deletion is incorrect; the license on Flickr may now not allow commercial use but it once did. The image (if I recall correctly) was uploaded by FlickrLickr, which proves it was a valid license at the time of upload (and creative commons licenses are not revocable). This has happened before as well, and it was undeleted then. Could you undelete it? Thanks... Carl Lindberg 02:15, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

✓ Undeleted. Sorry and thanks for your attention. →Christian 07:50, 26 March 2008 (UTC)
Thanks; usage on en-wiki restored. I also added a note on the page below the erroneous Flickrreviewr tag on the image page; there may be a better way to fix it but I'm not sure. Carl Lindberg 13:53, 26 March 2008 (UTC)


Hello; this image is a logo of a Linux distribution called Slax. It is used in the infobox of the english page. Is it possible to use it in the french page without having to transfer it to commons? I tried to transfer it, writing the same description as most free software logos, but there was a copyright problem and so you deleted it. NassWiki, 10:02, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

Hello, it should be no problem to upload copyrighted images to your local project usingéléchargement. Regards, →Christian 12:28, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

Imagen: Biberón.jpg[edit]

Lamentablemente no me es posible escribirle en inglés, aunque espero que pueda interpretar mi mensaje. Pregunta: Al subir la imágen "Biberón.jpg" especifiqué todo lo que me requería el formulario correspondiente, y allí expresé que tal imagen era una creación propia (es decir hecha por mí en un scanner casero y con un programa de dibujo "Paint" (dicho dibujo es de mi autoría)). ¿Cuál es el paso que me falta para que esta acción se complete en forma correcta? Espero su respuesta. Muchas Gracias.--jorge horacio richino 02:48, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

If you're the copyright holder of the image, you have to choose a license (Commons:Sobre las licencias y Commons:Marcas de derechos de autor en Español). Feel free to re-upload the file afterwards. →Christian 20:45, 5 April 2008 (UTC)
Así lo tienes correcto ahora, Jorge. Christian: in the future, feel free to drop a note (in English, if necessary, many of us speak English as well) at Commons:Café. Patstuart (talk) 19:25, 18 April 2008 (UTC)
I tried it on Administrators' noticeboard ;) Thanks for your service. →Christian 20:03, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

Fair use[edit]

Hi Christian... Perhaps you can solve this question for me? I notice that web pages of TV series use low resolution images under the Fair Use license. How come some articles in Wikipedia (e.g. Bionic Woman, Simpsons, etc.) are allowed to do that and I can not upload any TV screenshots? Or, are they hosted in another place where those licenses are permitted?

Also, how do I link images across, for example, Wikipedia in English and in Spanish? Images with the same name do not seem to come across and I could not find it in the help files..

Thanks! :) Jorge.

Hello, Commons is hosting files for any other Wikimedia project provided that they are released under a free license (see COM:L). If you would like to use copyrighted material (e.g. screenshots) in an article, it should be uploaded separately to your project (Wikipedia, etc.) where fair use is allowed. Linking to images is possible using [[:en:Image:Example.jpg]], but there is currently no possibility to display them in articles. I hope I was able to help. →Christian 14:16, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

Massive URV Politkerfotos[edit]

Hallo Christian! Ich sehe gerade, dass du online und auch Administrator bist. Ich habe ein Bitte an Dich:

Ich bin Benutzer aus und habe festgestellt, dass zwei politische Parteien unbewußt unerlaubterweise Pressefotos hochgeladen haben. Die Parteien sind aber nicht der Urheber und die von mir angemailten Pressefotografen wissen nichts von dem Upload oder haben Einverständnis gegeben. Viele der Bilder sind auf offiziellen Webseiten zu finden. (Ich bin da ein wenig aus der Szene, darum weiß ich wen ich anschreiben kann.)

Mein konkretes Anliegen ist im Commons.Forum ersichtlich [2]

Ich habe begonnen, die ersten Fotos zu markieren, bin aber müde, es extra bei jedem Foto mit demselben Argument zu machen.

Alle Fotos in diesen beiden Galerien müssten gelöscht werden - außer ein Landschaftsfoto:

[3] + [4]

Ich würde Dich bitte, der Sache nachzugehen und sämtliche betreffenden Fotos zu löschen. Danke. --Pressemappe 22:45, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

Nachtrag: Du kannst mir vertrauen, dass ich richtige handle. Ich habe vor einigen Tagen das Thema auf angesprochen und man hat mir Recht gegeben, dass die Lizenzierung sehr fragwürdig ist [5] --Pressemappe 22:51, 25 April 2008 (UTC)
Danke für den Hinweis. Ich werde der Sache nachgehen. Die offensichtlichen Urheberrechtsverletzungen werde ich wenn möglich direkt löschen, bei anderen könnte evtl. eine Diskussion nötig sein. Grüße, →Christian 22:59, 25 April 2008 (UTC)
Danke Dir für die Mühe! Es sind jedoch alle Portraitfotos in diesen beiden Galerien rechtlich eindeutig bedenklich. Die beiden Parteien ÖVP + SPÖ haben die Erlaubnis zur Veröffentlichung auf Wikipedia erteilt bzw. hochgeladen, obwohl sie nicht Urheber sind. (Ich vermute, sie haben nicht gewußt, dass dazu eine Erlaubnis des Fotografen notwendig ist. Die Parteien haben zwar Nutzungsrechte aber keine Verwertungsrechte an diesen Bildern.) --Pressemappe 23:10, 25 April 2008 (UTC)
Die Bilder verfügen nun über Bausteine, die die fehlende Einwilligung der Fotografen indiziert. So haben die Uploader doch noch Gelegenheit diese innerhalb der nächsten Woche zu ergänzen. →Christian 23:30, 25 April 2008 (UTC)
Hi! Das habe ich gerade gesehen und wollte es dir mitteilen. Ich wußte nicht, dass es so eine Möglichkeit gibt. Dann geht mal alles seinen Weg. Danke nochmals! --Pressemappe 23:33, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

Deletion of Image:Fairuza Balk (Sundance 2006).jpg[edit]

Hallo Christian, könntest du näher erläutern, warum du dieses Bild gelöscht hast? Grüße, High on a tree 19:51, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

Hallo, es war eine Urheberrechtsverletzung von hier. Grüße, →Christian 23:39, 30 April 2008 (UTC)
(Ich schreibe mal auf Englisch weiter, da das u.U. weitere Bilder betreffen bzw. andere Benutzer interessieren könnte.)
Thanks for the link. But:
The image was clearly released as CC-BY-2.0 here. Now, it sometimes happens that images get uploaded on Flickr by an impostor, but in this case there can be no doubt that SAGindie is the official Flickr account of SAGIndie, a well known and established organization (see en:Screen Actors Guild) - it is linked from the SAGIndie home page. On the other hand, the WireImage page does not assert exclusive rights to the image. It is not even entirely clear if image no. 7142371 on the WireImage page is the same photo as the one on Flickr. It is certainly from the same series - see also the SAGIndie posters in the background of some others in the series. But at least the cropping and the colors are slightly different, and also the contour of the lips seems different to me.
Regards, High on a tree 17:24, 3 May 2008 (UTC)
✓ Restored, the Flickr account seems to be more authentic. But for safety's sake I'll contact SAGIndie. Thanks, →Christian 17:39, 3 May 2008 (UTC)
Thanks. Btw I just discovered that somebody had already uploaded the same image as Image:Fairuza Balk.jpg shortly after deletion. A confirmation would be valuable; there is a lot more CC images from SAGIndie.
Regards, High on a tree 19:10, 3 May 2008 (UTC)

move request[edit]

Hey, could you please perform the move of the page Image:Teatr im. Stanisława Jaracza w Otwocku.jpg described there? I mistakenly typed the name of the image. Thank you in advance. KubaZ 17:05, 3 May 2008 (UTC)

✓ Done, you may also use {{rename media|target name.jpg}} to perform an automatic move. Regards, →Christian 17:18, 3 May 2008 (UTC)

Proxy block[edit]

I'm interested in this one. The edit seems quite constructive to me. In practice many people do edits from open proxies quite constructively. I am aware of policy but I do not block one with constructive edits. If you look at the OP report page on en wp you will see that many remain unblocked if they contribute constructively. In many parts of the world open proxies are important for internet connection. Thanks --Herby talk thyme 10:20, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

I thought I was just acting as recommended by the policy. But if you wish, I'll review all edits made from open proxies before taking a decision. Regards, →Christian 17:51, 11 May 2008 (UTC)
Please understand I used to do exactly the same! However when I started looking at the quite large number of open proxies on en wp I realised that some are actually very helpful (although against policy). You are quite right to block then as far as policy is concerned & you are a good admin here so I would not suggest you are wrong. Maybe just look at them and make the decision you see as correct. Thanks & regards --Herby talk thyme 17:55, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

Image:Fairway Rock 0489.jpg[edit]

The name of deleted version contains the full name of the rock (Image:Fairway Rock 0489.jpg), and the kept the version only has an abbreviation (Image:FWR0489.jpg). I think the deleted version has a better name, can you restore it and redirect the other file? Regardless of which file is kept the other file should be redirected, since both names has been used for a long time. Redirecting the deleted file to the kept version is almost always a very good thing to do when deleting duplicates. The only exceptions are really badly named files or recently uploaded files that has not been used in any Wikimedia project yet. /Ö 10:19, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

Image:Fairway Rock 0489.jpg is ✓ restored. But I think we don't need a redirect here. Users are rarely looking for specific filenames, they use categories and galleries to browse. Regards, →Christian 14:40, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
Redirects are not needed because someone may search for the filename, but because there may be links to the image page. All images which have been in use on a Wikimedia project will be linked to from old page versions. The permanent link and cite features in Wikipedias encourage links to specific page versions. Such links are made less useful if images are missing from the old pages just because they have been renamed or are duplicated.
Reusers of Commons outside Wikimedia images may link to the image page here as the source for an image. In the same way that Commons prefer working source links for images from Flickr, NASA and other sources, reusers of Commons content should be able to rely on links to images pages here. This is more important for original images by Commons users. For images from other websites reusers would do better to link to the original source. But there may be other reasons for linking to image pages here. I don't think we should break links unless we have a good reason. /Ö 16:35, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
In my opinion are log entries (like this one) perfectly sufficient to track actions that happened to images. We simply can't redirect all deleted duplicates. →Christian 17:26, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
I totaly agree. abf /talk to me/ 17:31, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

Giggy's RfB[edit]


I just wanted to say a huge thanks for your support in my RfB. It just closed, and I'm now a bureaucrat. If you ever want to discuss any of my actions, as a 'crat, admin, or plain old user, please don't hesitate to leave a note on my talk page.

Cheers, giggy (:O) 10:40, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

I believe you'll be a fine bureaucrat ;) →Christian 11:39, 24 May 2008 (UTC)


*flöööööt* ;) abf /talk to me/ 12:52, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

My Request for Adminship[edit]

Admin mop.PNG Dear Nagy,

Thank you for voting in my request for adminship, which passed with 25 support, 4 oppose, and 3 neutral. I'm honoured that the community have granted me the administrative tools. If there is anything, then do not hesitate to ask me.

Thank you for the nomination Rocket, it wouldn't have been possible otherwise. Kanonkas(talk)

Thank you Chris for your support on my RfA. If you need to discuss with me, then just leave me a note. --Kanonkas(talk) 18:12, 31 May 2008 (UTC)

Mount Vesuvius (März ;)[edit]

Hi, da hat ein Ahnungsloser mit en=0 vermutlich einen Artikel oder eine Galerie namens Mount Vesuvius anlegen wollen und sie in Categorie:Mount Vesuvius eingetragen. Ober sonderlich hell auf der Platte ist weiß ich nicht, aber es war, wie man so sagt, "gut gemeint" ;) lg, WeHaWoe 14:54, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
Bonmot: Gut gemeint ist das Gegenteil von gut.

Halt: zur ~Schleife fehlkategorisiert hat den redirect wohl der Siebot - das Problem hatte ich mal mit ihm, er konnte es aber sofort reparieren. WeHaWoe 15:01, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

Die Kategorisierung im Redirect ist wohl dadurch zustande gekommen, dass ich keinen Doppelpunkt dort gesetzt habe. MediaWiki setzt die Syntax dann zusätzlich als Kategorie um, aber zum Glück funktionierte die Weiterleitung auch so ;) Siehe übrigens auch ein paar Etagen höher. Grüße, →Christian 16:35, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
Ich will bittesehr nicht ein paar Etagen höher sehen und mich durch hunderte Links klickern sollen, sondern erreichen, dass eine definitiv per die bug entstandene und der WP abträgliche Unendlichschleife weggeräumt wird. Siebrand macht sowas üblicherweise binnen Kurzem (meine Erfahrung). Gruß, und eod.WeHaWoe 19:25, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
Weder von einem Bug noch von hunderten von Links kann hier die Rede sein. Dein Anliegen, die Beseitigung der Endlosschleife, wurde mir allerdings erst durch deinen letzten Kommentar klar. Sollte nun beseitigt sein. →Christian 20:10, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
Dass mir vielleicht nur wenige Dutzend Links wie Hunderte vorkommen, verzeih bitte einem alten Mann. Dass ebenderselbe es garso-garnicht "mit der Programmiererei" hat, desgleichen.
Dass die Sache/das Problemchen inzwischen als erledigt gilt, halte ich für gut.
Lieben Gruß, und nix für ungut, +eod, Wolfgang -- WeHaWoe 16:13, 5 June 2008 (UTC)


Tu' mir doch nen Gefallen und setz seine Disk auf Beo und klemm ihm beim nächsten Copyvio indefinite ab, ich hatte da heute nur noch zufällig Zeit zu gehabt. abf /talk to me/ 13:00, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

Deletion request Image:VirtualDub 1.7.8.png[edit]

Heyy.. you marked my screenshot as a copyright violation. But it's not :) Look at the image, it says that the program is licenced under the terms of the GPL. Also, look at en:VirtualDub and/or --hst 15:34, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

Hello, the 'About' section seems to be a double-edged sword ;) On the one hand it says VirtualDub is copyrighted ((C) by Avery Lee), on the other hand it is mentioned the software is free. Anyway, I restored the image (at least temporarily). Regards, →Christian 17:30, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

Open proxy[edit]

Thanks :) Same page a couple of days ago - maybe worth keeping an eye - very odd. Cheers --Herby talk thyme 14:04, 15 June 2008 (UTC)

Yep, I already thought about protecting the page, but there were just two vandalism edits in this month. Let's wait and see :) →Christian 15:36, 15 June 2008 (UTC)


Hi, you recently deleted this fair use image as it was on Commons. Could you restore this image temporarily so I can move it to en.Wikipedia, please? Or, alternately, could you upload it to en.Wikipedia? Thanks. Proto (talk) 08:15, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

✓ Temporarily restored - please notify me if you moved it. →Christian 08:20, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
All done, thanks Christian - it can be deleted here now. Please check your email also. Best, Proto (talk) 08:26, 18 June 2008 (UTC)


Hello. I have a image I have been sent for the Simple English Wikipedia article M-Train. However, they forgot to send me a permission slip. I have sent a request for one, but in the meantime, am I ok to upload the image? -- Da Punk '95 (talk) 22:03, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

Please upload the image and post the link here to make further actions possible and place {{OTRS pending}} on the description page to protect it temporarily from deletion. Also consider sending one more request to Commons:OTRS that contains a link to your image. Regards, →Christian 22:22, 20 June 2008 (UTC)


I have no idea - I don't remember ¯\(°_o)/¯ --Szczepan talk 01:53, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

Never mind :) →Christian 08:49, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

Image:Jan Stanislaw Skorupski - Rheinufer - Rejnobordo - Brzeg Renu - 01.06.2008 (Foto Barbara Loepfe).jpg[edit]

Danke für Deine Antwort - nur scheint es eben nicht so einfach zu sein! Erstens sind alle Angaben (insbesondere, dass ich vom Copyright-Besitzer, d.h. der Fotografin) das Recht für den Upload bekommen hatte, bereits bei den Bildinformationen angegeben, zweitens hatte ich besagte Information an Permissions" geschickt (sogar mehrmals - ohne Reaktion). Mehr kann ich wirklich nicht tun. DidiWeidmann (talk) 12:59, 30 June 2008 (UTC)

Ah, ich verstehe. Momentan kann die Bearbeitung etwas länger dauern, insbesondere für Emails in deutscher Sprache (ich hoffe ich stelle hier die richtige Vermutung an). Im betreffenden Bild habe ich den "Problembaustein" durch einen ersetzt, der besagt, dass die Freigabe noch bearbeitet werden muss. Wenn du dann eine Antwort vom OTRS-Team erhälst kannst du den Baustein einfach durch {{PermissionOTRS|id=Ticketnummer}} ersetzen. Wann hast du denn die letzte Email abgeschickt ? →Christian 14:21, 30 June 2008 (UTC)

Deutsch translation[edit]

You are a kind person.[6] Thank you. Walter Siegmund (talk) 22:23, 30 June 2008 (UTC)

Just came across your user page and thought I could help, you're welcome :) →Christian 07:29, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

Commons:Administrators/Requests and votes/Richard Bartz[edit]

I've probably overlooked this somewhere but where is there a "four support votes" rule mentioned? (Regardless I wouldn't close as consensus if it was 1/1, and it was 1/2, so this is just philosophical) —Giggy 06:09, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

Hi Giggy, see here ("Admin status will be granted by a majority of at least 75% and a minimum of 4 support votes."). Regarding the closure comment, feel free to correct it. You're a bureaucrat :) →Christian 10:00, 10 July 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for that. Can you believe people supported my RfB? ;-) (By the way, did you leave the user a talk page note when closing the RfA? Even if that's not in the rules, it is good practice.) —Giggy 11:11, 10 July 2008 (UTC)
Oh noes :O Thanks for your short introduction into bureaucrat's business :) By the way, I supported you in your RfB and I don't regret it :D →Christian 11:43, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

Ralf Linke[edit]

Hi Christian, what's the problem with Personality rights? Ralf Linke is the musical director at Balver Märchenwochen (take a look at So he is important enough to show a photograph. Best --Weissmann (talk) 08:39, 11 July 2008 (UTC)

Hello, the template does not indicate a problem, it's just an advice that the depicted person is identifiable. Commons has many similar images without any advice, but I'm trying to tag all I come across. Exceptions are persons that are supra-regionally known :) Regards, →Christian 08:59, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
OK, thanks. Best --Weissmann (talk) 09:07, 11 July 2008 (UTC)


Thanks for your help, I blocked him for a month as a vandalism only account. -mattbuck (Talk) 15:39, 13 July 2008 (UTC)

Right decision! :) →Christian 15:40, 13 July 2008 (UTC)


Hallo Christian,

Bubo hetzt andere User gegen mich auf. Kannst Du bitte einschreiten? Würde gerne auf Commons weiter arbeiten. Einen lieben Gruß --Weissmann (talk) 06:16, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

Hallo, habe mich mal umgeschaut, kann jedoch keine direkten Beiträge finden, die aufhetzend sind. Du kannst mir gerne ein paar Diff.-Links hier hinterlassen. Dann würde ich mir das Problem einmal ansehen. Grüße, →Christian 08:16, 18 July 2008 (UTC)
Er bezeichnet mich als Störer. Dies stört mich. Meine Absicht ist eine konstruktive Mitarbeit bei Commons. Ich verlange, dass er diese Titulierung zurück nimmt und sich dafür entschuldigt. Gruß --Weissmann (talk) 08:26, 18 July 2008 (UTC) Nachtrag: Beleg: User_talk:Bubo_bubo#Dumme_Fragen_gibt_es_nicht_oder_so_...

Hast Du schon was erreicht? --Weissmann (talk) 10:34, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

Du hast ihm ja bereits einen Hinweis auf der Benutzerdiskussion platziert. Ein Eingriff ist meiner Meinung nach erst nötig, wenn er Unfrieden in größerem Maße stiften sollte. Danke, →Christian 11:21, 18 July 2008 (UTC)
Das hat er bei Wikipedia Deutschland schon getan, daher mein etwas vorschnelles Eingreifen. Danke soweit. Gruß --Weissmann (talk) 12:34, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

Störer-Beleg. --Bubo 19:05, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

Was "stört" Dich genau, Bubo? Gruß --Weissmann (talk) 08:37, 19 July 2008 (UTC)


Dear Christian, would you please take a look here? Thanks. All the best --Weissmann (talk) 08:36, 19 July 2008 (UTC)


Hallo Christian, könntest du, falls Kapazität verfügbar, eventuell mal nachschauen, ob für Image:PaulusTarsus LKANRW.jpg inzwischen eine Bestätigungsemail vom LKA NRW eingetroffen ist. Danke. --Túrelio (talk) 14:35, 25 July 2008 (UTC)

✓ Erledigt und Freigabe eingetragen. Grüße, →Christian 14:54, 25 July 2008 (UTC)
Herzlichen Dank. --Túrelio (talk) 14:56, 25 July 2008 (UTC)


Thanks, neat & appreciated. Regards --Herby talk thyme 12:05, 26 July 2008 (UTC)

 :) →Christian 13:30, 26 July 2008 (UTC)

Image:Mechet ljalja-tjulpan.jpg[edit]

I saw you deleted this image. However I don't see any pages linking to it, so I was wondering if the uploader was notified about the speedy deletion notification. Or was it a copyvio? --Hardscarf (talk) 07:03, 16 August 2008 (UTC)

You're right, the uploader should have been notified. But I'm not going to restore the image, since the stated source ( seems to be a forum. As such, it is not likely the image has actually been released into the public domain. Regards, →Christian 07:31, 16 August 2008 (UTC)

RE: User:WBOSITG/copyvio.js[edit]

Argh! Sorry about that, seems to be fixed now. Thanks for the heads up! weburiedoursecretsinthegarden 22:48, 26 August 2008 (UTC)

Demande de blocage de mon compte sine die[edit]

Je sollicite de ta bienveillance le blocage de mon compte utilisateur jusqu'à nouvel ordre. Ma demande est motivé par mon grand écœurement du comportement de certains administrateurs de ce projet, notamment vis à vis des contributeurs francophone et leur interprétation, particulièrement du droit français tel qu'il est dit par la Cour de cassation française. Ce blocage fera, en outre, un immense plaisir à certains caciques de ce projet, dont connaîtra le nom dans l'historique de mes contribution. Je ne contribuerai plus, jusqu'à nouvel ordre, sur ce projet. En te remerciant par avance. Tu peux aussi supprimer l'ensemble de mes sous-pages utilisateur dont j'ai omis d'en faire la suppression. Tschüß !-- Bertrand GRONDIN → (écrire) 09:34, 11 September 2008 (UTC)

Je suis profondément attristé par ta décision de quitter ce projet, particulièrement comme il s'agit d'un conflit mineur (à mon avis). Peut-être cela vaut le coup d'essayer de demander la restauration des quelques images affectées ? →Christian 11:41, 11 September 2008 (UTC)
Manque de pot, j'ai eu des menaces directes de blocage. Que veux-tu, je voulais rappeler le droit français tel qu'il était interprété par la Cour de cassation. Manque de pot cela a été considéré comme de la manipulation. Je tiens à te remercier vivement de ta compréhension. Au plaisir de te lire à nouveau.-- Bertrand GRONDIN → (écrire) 12:57, 11 September 2008 (UTC)
Maintenant j'ai lu toute la discussion et tes commentaires, la problème semble plus compliqué que je pensait. Je regrette que je ne suis pas capable de me forger une opinion parce qu'il me manque de l'expérience à ce sujet. Mais je suis convaincu que ton travail sur Commons était trop bien pour retirer. Il était très difficile pour moi de bloquer un contributeur de longue date comme toi. Cordialement, →Christian 20:16, 11 September 2008 (UTC)

Empty mis-spelled categories[edit]

Just for my own information here, how do you determine what made a category to be empty before you delete it?

Also, when the purpose of the commons is supposedly for education, what does this "purpose" mean to you? -- carol (talk) 01:20, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

Hello Carol, I have no idea why Commons should be an educational project.
In general, I speedy delete categories if there is a sufficient reason (misspellings are rather obvious and easy to evaluate). I'd appreciate if you could bring up a more specific case. I'm not perfect, I make mistakes. Regards, →Christian 09:37, 14 September 2008 (UTC)
The upload page and several of the deletion templates point to a document here that mentions the project scope. I may or may not have read that document when I first started contributing here, then I contributed here for several months, mysteriously became a trusted user, had very few problems (mostly some copyright problems that were on such a fine line like a screenshot that had two images within it that are both here one image was GFDL and the other image was cc-something -- that deletion is still more funny than an actual problem I think). Categories get emptied here and then that is the reason given for deleting them.
There was recently a merge between the "Plants of" categories and the newer and more clearly defined "Flora of" categories. I have no idea what the intention was for the creation of and the heavy-handed maintenance of the "Plants of" categories. After writing some plant articles for one of the wikipedias, it became clear to me that there was not a structure here that was actually useful for locating plants and that is a large part of the science.
The "Plants of" categories -- I have no idea what those were about. Perhaps there is a document that explains their purpose and what goes into them somewhere -- my experience is that some of those categories were strong-armed managed like, if anyone attempted to subcategorize a species into (Plants of the Canary Islands comes to mind) that species category was made into a gallery and the subcategory was deleted. So, clearly the goal for that one location was to have galleries and not necessarily particular plants. Another "Plants of" directory contained only images (no subcategories and no galleries) and those images were all taken by one photographer who claims that those plants were all native to that area. Meanwhile, back in the United States, some states had "Plants of" categories and others didn't. I mention these few examples to demonstrate that I have no idea of the purpose of the "Plants of" by looking at that collection and how it was managed and comparing one area to another.
I set up the simplest thing possible which was to be the most useful for all that I have recently learned about botany. Setting aside my real idea that botany as a science is its own study in futility (without the assistance of the human intervention I have experienced lately), it is really quite easy when authoring an article about a species to right then, while the information is handy, to subcategorize the species into its native locations. "Plants of Russia" is just about the most useless category as it has the same weight as "Plants of Haiti" since they are both equal politically. Botany is more about the land and the area and the environment though. The document that I used started by dividing the planet into eight almost equal chunks and working down from there. Due to the environmental aspects of the division, the land areas were not always so equal, Category:Palearctic compared to Category:Australasia. I think that without reading anything about goals and purpose that it would naturally have happened that single images that were taken of plants and animals and insects in the different regions would have been categorized in those original "Flora of" categories and only native species would have been subcategorized there.
When I set those original categories up (that were fairly well considered from my own experience uploading and trying to determine what was going on here and additionally from the authoring of articles about the subject matter) I merged the mostly abandoned Category:Ecozones with the information that starts on page 121 of
"China" what is the better spelling for this word? That document uses it and so does the parent category here Category:China. The word "Biocountry" was grabbed also from that document to separate the other things about China (the politics, the cities, the flags, the culture, the museums, etc) from those things which occur there naturally like plants, animals and geographical stuff. That document named a few of their areas after the political divisions that share that land, China was one of these -- so is Brazil. Look at Category:Brazil Biocountry.
I would like to suggest that deletion requests have the requesting person looked at. I have emptied a few categories myself recently and requested the deletion of them but I also included some outside links that supported my deletion request and the files were moved to a sensible location according to those outside links (species get renamed all of the time and worse, some places use one name and other places use another name so I include all of the names especially if they are being used into the category where things are being moved to).
Since this computer started, the ToL people have not been able to put a sensible taxonomy in place here. That takes a little extra knowledge and I have been spending my time working on that as I have gained that extra knowledge recently and it is not unlike putting together a three dimensional puzzle (as far as the brain food part of this task goes). I thought that the Ecozone thing was more easily understood and participation in that did not demand the knowledge of sciences that are being taught at the college/university level. Apparently, the merge was managed by people who are not yet thinking at even a high school level though or I went to a much better high school than all of them did (which I seriously doubt as this school was not unlike the one in Fast Times at Ridgemont High).
I actually need someone to run GIT on the files here to just replace everything that happened while Siebrand was not the author of Siebot. The user instance of Foroa merged those categories and then later agreed that merges should only occur in bijective situations. It would be nice if the same aggression that merged those categories without asking and that has been shown here to disemble species categories and put them into galleries could be aimed at restoring a well-thought and mature category tree which defined geographical locations as independently of the politics as possible. There is energy to do things here, I have seen it. Merge now ask questions later is not the commons I got to know and I have some questions as to the reason they did not stay at English wikipedia after having gotten their way there.
Do you have any idea the reason that when they get their way they are seemingly unhappy and bored with this?
I think that the project scope lately has been rewritten to reflect a more educational bias. I always considered this collection to be aimed at that since they are images for encyclopedias -- what do you think (without reading that thing) that the project scope is here? -- carol (talk) 17:51, 14 September 2008 (UTC)
Do you ever investigate the "Links to" before deleting things? -- carol (talk) 17:08, 16 September 2008 (UTC)
Dear Carol, usually I check the links to a page before deleting, but I would never deny that I forget it sometimes. Please excuse the late reply, but for a non-native speaker it's a tough job to read and to understand what you've written. A few words about the scope thing: I always considered Commons a media repository to illustrate all the Wikimedia projects. Your examples above make sense, but I'm not a biologist and so I'm anything like as experienced as you are in this area. Regards, →Christian 17:23, 16 September 2008 (UTC)
I actually considered this when I left the "Flora of" and the Category:Ecozones as they were due to the fact that it is not necessary to have experience with taxonomy to understand the difference between geographical divisions and political divisions and they were fairly well documented here. I had much difficulty here finding maps to use for the range maps that is a part of the taxonomy box at English wikipedia. Also, I am sorry that my language is so native and getting more so every passing day. The people I have met from other countries had no problem 1)authoring software and 2)understanding the English (possibly from the availability of movies and television from USA). The number of users at commons who have problems with the language is interesting to me, especially those who were voted into administrative positions. It is 2008 and not as many people are familiar with the language as was in 1998.
And now for something completely different. I have learned (and perhaps only learned this) for the last 5 years especially that no one can be trusted or believed. I am a little bored with this and there has to be a lot of trust and belief somewhere to cause such a 5 years. Do you think that making two lists and allowing people to sign up would expedite things? One list People who do not know that no one can be trusted or believed and the other People who have become bored with this constant example? I think that would allow those who are interested in continuing that kind of thing to continue where it is appreciated. What do you think? -- carol (talk) 17:54, 16 September 2008 (UTC)
For sure there are people you can trust more than others, but I'd never generalize it. I might be blind or something, what exactly is this all about ? I'm able to take criticism, so please come to the point. Thanks, →Christian 18:21, 16 September 2008 (UTC)
I am not critisizing you, I am asking your opinion. Optimizing the goals of people who have particular interests is my goal. Please do not take this personally. An activity that would restore my belief in the administration here would be to determine a way to undo the merge of the "Plants of" categories into the "Flora of" categories and then to do that. -- carol (talk) 18:56, 16 September 2008 (UTC)

Die fehlende Antwort zwecks der Infinite-Sperre[edit]

Hi Christian, erstmal sorry, für die fehlende Antwort auf deine Rückfrage zwecks BrunoMe. Ich habe versucht, die gründe dafür jetzt, da ich nochmal gefragt wurden bin auf der Disk meiner AK zu erklären. Warum ich dir damals nicht geantwortet habe, ist eine gute Frage. Anfangs war ich irritiert, warum du mich auf Englisch anschreibst, immerhin sind wir beide ja der deutschen Sprache mächtig. Deshalb hatte ich die Antwort noch nach hinten gestellt, weil ich vor hatte dir auf Englisch zu antworten. Warum ich das dann nicht mehr getan habe, frag mich bitte etwas anderes. Nachdem du mir dann mitgeteilt hattest, dass du den User wieder freigegeben hattest, habe ich den Fall dann als abgeschlossen betrachtet. ChristianBier (talk) 17:59, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

Entschuldige bitte auch, dass ich hier nun so spät antworte. Danke für die klärenden Worte. Es ist gut, doch noch etwas von dir bzgl. der Angelegenheit zu hören. Grüße, →Christian 10:43, 16 September 2008 (UTC)
Der User hat heute erneut ein geschütztes Logo auf Commons geladen (das der Paralympics), welches ich erneut gelöscht habe. Was machen wir nun? ChristianBier (talk) 20:59, 17 September 2008 (UTC)
Ah, danke für den Hinweis. Ich habe ihm mal einen letzten Hinweis (hoffentlich habe ich mich nicht in seiner Muttersprache geirrt) hinterlassen. Sollte er nun weiterhin offensichtliche Urheberrechtsverletzungen oder die Datei erneut hochladen, wäre aus meiner Sicht eine Sperre von ca. einem Monat angemessen. Kollegiale Grüße, →Christian 07:48, 18 September 2008 (UTC)
Okay, alles klar, dann schauen wir mal was er macht. ChristianBier (talk) 10:38, 18 September 2008 (UTC)


Merci d'avoir effacé mes sous-pages.--Bertrand GRONDIN 19:29, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

User talk:Grondin[edit]

Huhu! Du, wir löschen keine User-talks, könntest du es bitte selbst wiederherstellen? grüße, abf /talk to me/ 19:32, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

J'ai claqué la porte du projet, je ne viens ici que pour demander la suppression de mes images importées. Si la page de discussion a été supprimée, c'est que je l'ai exigée. J'ai droit de vie ou de mort sur mes propres pages.--Bertrand GRONDIN (talk) 21:35, 14 September 2008 (UTC)
Aufgrund der folgenden Anfrage und der damit verbundenen Probleme sollte die Diskussionsseite natürlich verfügbar bleiben, um einen gewissen Überblick zu wahren. Ansonsten würde ich aber keine Schwierigkeiten mit der Löschung sehen, da der Benutzer (wie du siehst) Commons den Rücken kehren will. Es handelt sich nicht um einen Vandalen, dessen Diskussionsseite unbedingt aufbewahrt werden muss... Grüße, →Christian 13:43, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
Hi Christian. Das hier ist leider ein Prinzip ;) Wir löschen talks nicht, da sie zur dokumentation dienen ;). Btw. Schau bitte mal COM:AN an ;) abf /talk to me/ 13:51, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
Mag sein, dass ich Tomaten auf den Augen habe ... Aber wo steht denn auf dem Noticeboard etwas davon ? Haben wir nun eine neue Richtlinie ? Bisher war ich immer davon überzeugt, dass man solche "Accountdeaktivierungen" bei unproblematischen Benutzern formlos durchführen kann ... →Christian 13:56, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
Warum wollen immer alle von mir Links? Tschuldigung, aber wenn ich für alles was gang und gebe ist nen Link im Kopf hätte wäre da für nix anderes mehr Platz. Ich bin mir sicher, dass ich dazu sogar auf commons mal ne Diskussion gesehen habe. Sorry und Grüße, abf /talk to me/ 14:08, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
Ist in Ordnung. Du hast meinen Standpunkt gelesen, ich bin offen für Kritik und lasse mich auch gerne davon überzeugen, dass ich Mist gebaut habe. Grüße, →Christian 14:17, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
Danke, du beruhigst mich *gnuddel* ;) abf /talk to me/ 14:20, 15 September 2008 (UTC)

Demande de suppression en masse de mes images[edit]

Je ne décolère toujours pas contre certains cacique de ce projet. Voici une première vague de suppression des pages que j'ai importées. C'est ici dont la plupart des photos sont de moi. J'en ai quelques centaines à faire supprimer. Je te remercie par avance. Mais n'ayant plus confiance en certains, je suis sûr que ces images seront à plus ou moins brève échéance supprimées pour des motifs dont certains ont le secret (défense) bien gardé. Je ne veux pas leur donner ce plaisir. Crois-moi, j'en ai gros sur le cœur.--Bertrand GRONDIN (talk) 20:59, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

Une liste de mes demandes ici.--Bertrand GRONDIN (talk) 21:34, 14 September 2008 (UTC)
J'espère ne pas trop te déranger. Toutes mes excuses.--Bertrand GRONDIN (talk) 21:42, 14 September 2008 (UTC)
You cant withdraw licenses. Please revert all those csds. I'll now restore your userpage and report it to COM:AN - I am sorry. abf /talk to me/ 11:49, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
Je fais un copier-coller de ma réponse faite sur la page dédiée aux administrateurs.
Étant soumis, en la matière, au droit français, le code de propriété intellectuelle dispose notamment que « Nonobstant la cession de son droit d'exploitation, l'auteur, même postérieurement à la publication de son oeuvre, jouit d'un droit de repentir ou de retrait vis-à-vis du cessionnaire. ». Ce code précise, en outre, dans son article L. 121-1 que « L'auteur jouit du droit au respect de son nom, de sa qualité et de son œuvre.

Ce droit est attaché à sa personne.

Il est perpétuel, inaliénable et imprescriptible.

Il est transmissible à cause de mort aux héritiers de l'auteur.

L'exercice peut être conféré à un tiers en vertu de dispositions testamentaires. »

Sauf erreur de ma part, je suis le seul contributeur sur ces images, c'est donc en pleine conformité de ces dispositions législatives que je demande leur suppression. Je suis à votre pleine et entière disposition pour en discuter plus calmement et plus longuement et vous prie d'agréer l'expression de mes sentiments les plus distingués.--Bertrand GRONDIN (talk) 12:13, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
Merci Bertrand, je conseille de continuer la discussion sur le bulletin des administrateurs, particulièrement parce qu'il s'agit d'une sujet complexe. Cordialement, →Christian 13:52, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
Je suis ton conseil à la lettre. Bon, je dois aller bosser (17h/24h). Tschüß.--Bertrand GRONDIN (talk) 14:14, 15 September 2008 (UTC)


I requested that deletion, didn't I? The deletion of Category:China Biocountry and the reason given, the mis-spelling was mine. I am very sorry.

Since when all of the galleries and images were moved from the plants of categories to the flora of categories, I cannot be trusted to think calmly about things -- even when I take a few minutes to gather my thoughts.

Those categories were merged and then they asked what the differences were. This should have nothing to do with you and I am sorry that I am not so respectful of the intellectual and communicative capacity of administrators who delete and move things as I was before that happened.

Very very sorry. Please accept my apology for this. -- carol (talk) 12:48, 17 September 2008 (UTC)

An additional question. <-- is that you answering questions for Multichill or is Multichill borrowing your style? -- carol (talk) 13:24, 17 September 2008 (UTC)
Oh, one more thing regarding your comment above: Please note that Commons is a multilingual project. Excuse my very bad english, I just practice singing in the shower...
Um, back on topic. Flora of does indeed sound more useful than Plants of. I had a closer look at all that categories, subcategories, etc. now and I'm convinced that it was a lot of work, you have all my admiration.
I deleted Category:China Biocountry on your request. In hindsight the reason "misspelled" is likely to be wrong as you stated {{speedydelete|wrongly named}}. Excuse my lack of knowledge. If there's something I can do for you, feel free to ask. →Christian 13:50, 17 September 2008 (UTC)
Pretty sure I'm not the same person as Multichill and did not get his password. However, I don't see too much similarities, but that's up to you as a native speaker :P →Christian 13:50, 17 September 2008 (UTC)
This is all very gracious of you. I think this is a good word to describe being patient and still available after such a lot of misunderstandings, confusion and other problems most (or all) which are not yours.
My request to have that category deleted was a mistake, to be honest. The available maps are not made with divisions for this purpose. For example, I attempted to put the map of Russia with the Oblasts and Krai included onto the world map which I had started with using Inkscape and I failed. I am not a cartographer and I am not so good with Inkscape that I could do that. I requested maps be made by people who have made maps here and was shown a map of the United States which had been divided into counties (the next division from state here) which did not help me with Category:Palearctic where Russia and China are equal to Lithuania and accidentally to islands like Sardinia. And the United States and Canada on that same map. Large areas of land are politically equal to much much smaller areas of land.
The map problem is the same that made me create the new categories also. The world svg map that is here is incredible with almost every little island drawn in it. Heh, I spent literally hours moving those islands into more finely nested xml tags so they would be easier to work with. For example, that map has some islands that I needed Inkscape to view at 25000% (I think that is the largest view) so they would be large enough to select and put where they could be more easily managed. That was a few months ago by now though, not the years that some abandoned projects have remained here at the Commons. I really am in need of maps with some countries showing finer political divisions than others.
Too many words here, perhaps. Thank you for being available and forgiving of human errors. -- carol (talk) 15:27, 17 September 2008 (UTC)

User: [edit]

Ich würde ganz gerne nen schoolblock machen (siehe whois), der dann 6 monate hätte. Bist du einverstanden? abf /talk to me/ 18:00, 18 September 2008 (UTC)

Ich wusste doch, dass ich den einen zusätzlichen Klick lieber gemacht hätte. Verlängere ruhig, das ist hier angebracht (und bestell auch von mir schöne Grüße nach Orange County :P). →Christian 18:03, 18 September 2008 (UTC)

Italian IP block/unblock issues[edit]

For the sake of the record as much as anything I agree with you. I object strongly to attacks on users & will almost always block but long blocks on IPs are to be avoided. Thanks for your work. Regards --Herby talk thyme 07:34, 20 September 2008 (UTC)

After the discussion on Shakata's talk page I thought I was alone in this opinion, but I'm relieved to read this. Thank you, →Christian 07:54, 20 September 2008 (UTC)

Nuvola icons[edit]

That's right; choosing another license is just as wrong as releasing derivative of GFDL work on Creative Commons... A.J. (talk) 18:26, 29 September 2008 (UTC)


Re your block on this user (which was good) you may like to look here. It is the same user. Thanks --Herby talk thyme 14:29, 4 October 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the notification, I feel this guy is going to show up again ;) →Christian 15:48, 4 October 2008 (UTC)

Hi :)[edit]

Ups sorry, i forgot to comment that one. It's a screenshot of a movie, called evolution something. It has been already deleted once, cause it's a derivative work of a picture from the movie, the claim of the Flickr account might be fake, or have to be prooven through OTRS. It's linked to another image uploaded by the same user : Image:Evolutionposter.jpg. Other uploads of the same user should be also checked.--Lilyu (talk) 19:25, 4 October 2008 (UTC)

You got it, Image:Beasties3.png and some more files of this user have been deleted. Thanks, →Christian 08:23, 5 October 2008 (UTC)

Image:Goko Reflection.jpg[edit]

Hello. I happened to find you deleted Image:Goko Reflection.jpg which was originally uploaded by User:Jpatokal to wikitravel and a little later to ja wikipeda. Now Japatokal declears "Multi-licensing as stated above also applies to my images in Wikipedia, Wikimedia Commons and Wikitravel." in en:User:Jpatokal. Please consider undeleting his image. Thank you. --miya (talk) 13:03, 6 October 2008 (UTC)

Hi there. I restored the file as we can indeed assume that's the same user. I adjusted the source a bit to prevent further problems. Thank you, →Christian 18:43, 6 October 2008 (UTC)


Category:Kyūshū was moved to Category:Kyushu and you deleted the first category. That was nice to see happen. I have a list of similarly named categories:

  1. All were created by me before I realized that the names being used contained awkward non-ascii and non-Japanese characters. Can they be moved also?
  2. There also might be other categories within the Japanese content here, perhaps the rest of the Japanese subcategories can be reviewed for other instances of these non-ascii and non-Japanese characters in the names of the subcategories?
  3. I am unfamiliar with the character set being used in those names, but perhaps there is a way to discover every category at commons which contains characters from this set so that they can be moved to something more sensible and you know how to do that?

Thank you also and again for your previous calm and forgiving nature when I had a problem with the deletion of a category that I asked be deleted. Honestly, I found something here which requires some thinking and I don't always seem to be able to access that same thinking for other things. The discussion of the deletion of the Chinese Biocountry directory is a very good example of a mistake I can make while attempting these other things.

Done -- I just saw that this has been done now, yay! -- carol (talk) 09:41, 8 October 2008 (UTC)

Additionally, if the changes that were made to the "Plants of" categories in this spree here: could be reverted and any "Flora of" category which has been created since that time could be deleted, I am quite certain that my ability to see my own mistakes and manage them more productively will be much improved.

Again, my appreciation for all of this has appreciated. (this is a play on words -- one use is about a person and respect and good experiences being remembered, the other use is about how an investment grows, it is not a funny play with words, but it is clever "appreciation appreciates"). -- carol (talk) 20:16, 6 October 2008 (UTC)

Hello Carol, looks like a pile of work. But, well, why not?
  1. Been there, done that. :)
  2. Agreed, I suggest to place {{category redirect}} on every category page of that kind we come across (if we cannot relocate it at once).
  3. I tried a simple SQL query (click), but it didn't work. I figure that our software is not able to differ between ordinary vowels and macroned ones. Maybe you have another idea...
Regarding the "Flora/Plants of" categories, I thought the "Flora of" was the more sensible one, so why undo all your efforts to build up a unified categorization? I'm a bit confused here... →Christian 09:25, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

sql or other lists[edit]

About the sql query: I worked here recently with a list that was made of every category subcategorized to botany that also included parens. I am now wondering if there is a way to search for unicode greater than "FFFF" (or whatever -- it has been more than a few months since I looked at anything in unicode...). Maybe convert the titles to the numeric unicode and then make the search. (typing my thoughts) Japanese shouldn't need more than ascii so maybe converting the titles to HTML-4 and listing every title that has a character which is greater than &#164; (&#165; is yen, heh) or undefined. That would be mildly amusing to me if HTML-4 was the simple for this internationalization goal.... -- carol (talk) 14:10, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

"Plants of" merge with "Flora of"[edit]

About "Flora of/Plants of": I would have rather started to work with my category scheme and the people who spent so much energy converting category to gallery than to have the two trees non-communicatively merged. Before that merge, there was not a "Flora of United States" (or the United States) for example. The land mass is too large. The categories that I created and filled are joined political areas which are of similar land areas. The United States was in 6 kind of equal land masses each with a similar environment (one of the areas is 2 states and another is 13 states because the political divisions are not sensible in terms of land mass). Plants of categories were all about political divisions. Some islands in Africa are subcategorized into France, for instance even though they are so far away from the "owner"; the Flora of categories that I made used the political divisions but only to the extent that it made sensible groups of similar environments.
You are correct about the amount of work I put into this -- that is the reason that I would like that merge to be undone. I am not certain what the use of a collection of plants that can be found in a landmass the size of Russia or the United States or Canada or Mexico, but this doesn't mean it isn't useful. My work was not strictly with political divisions but more with equal land mass groups of political divisions. Also, my categories were subcategories with native species (not introduced or naturalized or cultivated species) -- I never saw any sign that the plants of categories were managed like this. The management I saw of the plants of categories were that anything that could be made into a gallery was and the subcategories deleted. -- carol (talk) 14:10, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

Please excuse the delay in answering...

  • SQL/Database issue, I tried some more queries using different variables, without success. :(
You are have been a good administrator (in my opinion). It is a shame that whoever is the person answering questions for Siebrand is not capable of authoring a software like Siebrand. The word shame is the important word there. -- carol (talk) 21:23, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
this is not an image of plants of and flora of
  • The obviously more important matter, I had a look at the discussion on Siebrand's talk. To be honest, I'm still considering the current situation satisfactory. But well, you're the professional, I know :) So I'm willing to fulfill your request, but I'm afraid this will need some further discussion involving all participants in the preceding debates before reverting the merger.

Thanks, →Christian 20:24, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

Revert first and let them explain what the "Plants of" are after. They were not logically mergible.
The discussion at Siebrands talk page was after the merge. After the merge. Before the merge, there was no asking me by the people who merged. I suggest that you ask the people who made this merge this one question (a question I never received an answer for). Other than the requirement of a gallery from the genus category on, what qualifies a species to have been subcategorized into a plants of category? I have one example of the communication after a smaller merge was undone. User_talk:CarolSpears/2008-08#Plants_of_.2F_Flora_of and another example of discussion before the merge User_talk:CarolSpears/2008-08#Flora.2FPlants_of. I feel very strongly to undo the merge and the reason given (if asked and I suspect there will be no asking) be "it didn't take a crystal ball to know the embarrasment that was the motivating factor in the original non-communicative and profoundly wrong merge". And, "while reviewing the situation, it became evident that no one touched the galleries which was the focus of the plants of people as well as the active members of the ToL group."
There was a consensus at Siebrands talk page that the people who made that merge and were discussing it there that they would be making stylized navigation, yet nothing seems to have happened with that. In addition to the stated fact that whoever was answering for Siebrand is not an author of software so the respect I was having for that user was misplaced, in my opinion.
What I saw was that most of the communication from the maintainers of those "Plants of" categories was the gallery requirement. I also read a user page that suggested that talking about stuff is the quickest way to make it not happen. Ask User:Lycaon what qualified a plant to be located in a "Plants of" category -- the "geolocate your plant photograph" user should have a quick and concise answer for that. -- carol (talk) 21:18, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

Many Thanks[edit]

Cross of Sacrifice.jpg
Dear Nagy,
Thanks for your support of my Request for Adminship. I’m honored by your trust.

Cheers, SterkeBak

One of the most exciting RfA I've ever seen. Good luck! →Christian 20:26, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

instigator of merge[edit] <-- did not exist here before September 7, 2008. Sorry, I looked at this again and what I said was wrong.

That being said, I have a user instance which is not in use very much. Perhaps we could use that popularity idea (which seems to mean that user instances without much experience with the subject matter make a lot of decisions without discussing them) and conduct that unmerge. It is to me an odd definition for "popular" but whatever. In addition, we should be able to determine the emotional stability of the users who enjoyed this merge. -- carol (talk) 21:54, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

The discussion on Siebrand's talk right after the merger is exactly why I'm thinking we need some more approval before reverting it. I'm aware that some long-term debates can deter people from acting but I'm also convinced it is necessary sometimes, in this particular case to avoid any more trouble and confusion... Thanks for your understanding, →Christian 11:31, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
Regarding Siebrand's identity, are you a conspiracy theorist ;)
Conspiracy theorist -- that is a complicated question. If such a quality can be passed along genetically and/or environmentally, then I probably am (my mom thinks that the whole government system was replaced when Kennedy was shot and many of my dads ideas turned out to be later presented as facts). Or if that has the meaning that when the facts do not coincide with the reasons given and a search of potential "real reasons" occurs, I think that everyone is this. In the case of Siebrand, no. I was simply relaying what that user told me (User_talk:Siebrand/Archive13#two_things). -- carol (talk) 12:30, 9 October 2008 (UTC)


Thanks :). Patrícia msg 11:49, 10 October 2008 (UTC)

 :o) →Christian 13:02, 10 October 2008 (UTC)

v. Gogh[edit]

Hallo Christian, ich möchte in dieser Kategorie gröbere Aufräumarbeiten initiieren (und wohl meist selber durchführen). Kannst Du Dich für's Brainstorming einbringen? Dzt. ist mein in Arbeit befindliches Exposé auf User talk:WeHaWoe/On van Gogh. Danke, --WeHaWoe (talk) 11:02, 27 October 2008 (UTC)

Sieht so aus, als hätte die Kategorie tatsächlich die eine oder andere Aufräumaktion nötig. Ich werde (aus gegebenem Anlass noch nicht sofort, aber bald) einen näheren Blick auf dein Exposé werfen und ggf. auch Senf dazugeben :) Was ich vorab schon mal empfehlen würde, ist ein wenig mehr Werbung für das Vorhaben, um auch mehr Meinungen und vielleicht auch Helfer zu bekommen. Grüße, →Christian 14:30, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
Klar, dass das L.A.U.T ;)) beworben werden sollte, aber nicht solange es in meinem Hinterhof aufgepäppelt wird. Um das WIE bitte ich um Ezzes, u.a.. In den Hinterhof lade ich bloß Handverlesene ein ;) aber das ist morgen passé, dann ist's in der CAT-Disku wo's hinsoll. --WeHaWoe (talk) 15:09, 27 October 2008 (UTC)


Hallo Christian. Kannst du bitte das genannte Bild wiederherstellen, damit ich die evtl. fehlenden Daten nachtragen kann? Mir war nicht bewusst, dass es die Voraussetzungen nicht erfüllt - es wurde im Übrigen nicht von mir nach Commons transferiert - und normalerweise gebe ich alle nötigen Informationen an. Es gab auch keine Löschwarnung an mich. Danke und Grüße, j.budissin+/- 20:27, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

✓ Erledigt. Konkret wurde hier das Fehlen einer handfesten Freigabe des Urhebers (Tony Aiello) moniert, sollte am besten via OTRS bestätigt werden. Meinst du, das ist machbar ? Grüße, →Christian 21:39, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

Hi Ch.... äääääähhhherrrrrmmmm Nagy[edit]

Hi! Lustiegen neuen Namen hast du da ;) Kannst du mir bitte mal unten auf UDEL helfen? Danke, abf /talk to me/ 15:13, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

Flickr images[edit]

Hi - I reverted this action as your edit to the policy was reverted, see the discussion here. If the consensus is to make it an admin-only promotion that I don't stand in the way of the page being protected again (in other words I'm not "wheel warring"), I only did that so we didn't have one policy contradicting the actual ability to edit the page.

Cheers, Giggy (talk) 06:18, 12 November 2008 (UTC)

Roger that (but please note there has never been a real community consensus). →Na·gy 09:03, 12 November 2008 (UTC)
That's true, though as that's been in place for about a year we generally consider it the status quo and go with it unless someone raises an objection. You've done so - as you're entitled to - but it's best to discuss it rather than all-out changing it if we've generally agreed on it for the last year. (Obviously if Bryan made that edit last week it'd be different.) Giggy (talk) 10:18, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

hrwiki acc[edit]

Hi, see this, hope i'm not bothering you. Thank you and Cheers! ;o) --Dalibor Bosits (talk) 20:03, 14 November 2008 (UTC)

I hereby confirm that this request is made by me :) Thanks, →Na·gy 20:11, 14 November 2008 (UTC)


Thank you, I fixed it! Dantadd 20:51, 14 November 2008 (UTC)

My RFA[edit]

Thank you very much for supporting my RfA. I'm really honored to have gotten unanimous support and I hope I can live up to everyone expectations! Let me know if you need anything. --J.smith (talk) 18:59, 21 November 2008 (UTC)


Hrm, can you restore Image:Ahmed Sayed Khadr.png for me to fix? I must have missed it getting tagged by a bot or something; I'm positive it's free, I just failed to update tags or something -- cheers. Sherurcij (talk) 23:41, 26 November 2008 (UTC)

✓ Done, but why did you tag this image for deletion ? I reverted this edit for now... Regards, →Na·gy 13:27, 27 November 2008 (UTC)
Oh my, how embarrassing, that's right - that one is supposed to be deleted. Sorry, I couldn't view the file after I saw the "file has been deleted" notice in my Watched list. Sherurcij (talk) 23:01, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

no reply needed[edit]

I just wanted to see if I could get here without the talk page showing in my watchlist and if there has been activity. No futility to this exercise. -- carol (talk) 19:52, 30 November 2008 (UTC)

Bitte möglichst kommentieren[edit]

Hi, auf User_talk:Magnus_Manske#Kategorien+Subkategorien habe ich die mir dzt. wichtigsten Fragen zusammengefasst und bitte Dich dort zu kommentieren, falls möglich. Irgendwann tät' ich nämlich mein Aufräum-Projekt gern wirklich starten wollen ;) Wolfgang (talk) 08:13, 1 December 2008 (UTC)

Ohje, viel werde ich auch diesmal nicht zur Diskussion beitragen koennen, aber ich habe ein Auge darauf. Versprochen ! →Na·gy 20:32, 2 December 2008 (UTC)
Also lästig sein möchte ich nicht, aber herzlich eingeladen bist+bleibst Du. Es war reichlich enervierend, auf der CAT Talk page kaum brauchbares Feedback vorzufinden: Die "geniale" Idee, die dort von meinem diesbezüglichen Kontrahenten ausführlich bequasselnd verteidigt wurde, nämlich die Bilder mit ~vG_1, vG2 etc zu beschriften, hat genau zu dem Saustall geführt den ich aufräumen werde: Ich ärgere mich über jede einzelne dieser Dateien die dann zwar ebenso geniale Hinweise wie de|Amsterdam UND en|Amsterdam (und womöglich noch mehr Sprachen|Amstedam) enthalten, aber einen auf Deutsch übersetzten Bildtitel den man im Internet dann hauptsächlich oder ausschließlich unter "WP" findet ;) Mitunter suche ich die Daten eines einzelnen derart beschrifteten Bildes stundenlang. Heute mach ich sowieso vG-Pause, hab' gestern das Abschlusskonzert einer recht witzigen à capella-Gruppe besucht und ein paar Bildbearbeitungen und Uploads vor (davon abgesehen, dass ich nach meinem gestrigen 22h-Tag "übernachtig" bin. Alter schützt nachweislich nicht vor Torheit, quod erat demonstrandum ;).
PS: Filnix hat übrigens auch abgewunken. lg, Wolfgang (talk) 10:18, 3 December 2008 (UTC)
Weia :/ Und gibt es von Siebrand etwas Neues ? →Na·gy 18:50, 3 December 2008 (UTC)
Nö. Wolfgang (talk) 09:49, 4 December 2008 (UTC)

The City of Love[edit]

My pleasure :) Rimibchatterjee (talk) 17:00, 7 December 2008 (UTC)


… hierfür, hatte ich glatt übersehen ;-) --:bdk: 16:27, 9 December 2008 (UTC)

Aber gern :) →Na·gy 16:36, 9 December 2008 (UTC)

Deletion of Thompson images[edit]


I would like to know why did you delete following images: Image:Thompson_Maksimir_17.6.2007_1.jpg Image:Thompson_Maksimir_17.6.2007_2.jpg Image:Thompson_Maksimir_17.6.2007_3.jpg

The three had perfect licensing information, and one of them even survived a deletion request: Permission from the original author was mailed to on 18 June 2007 13:55, Ticket#2007061810007114. As far as I am aware, everything is in perfect order with the licensing information. Why were the images deleted? -- 00:59, 14 December 2008 (UTC)

Hi there, I had a quick look at the ticket and I noticed the permission is still pending. I'd like to restore the images if you could provide another permission by Goran Katić clearly stating that the content may be published under the {{cc-by-sa-2.5}}. Please let me know, →Na·gy 08:29, 14 December 2008 (UTC)
What does it mean that it's pending? The permission I sent includes Goran's email in which he says "You can freely use the photography, you only must quote the link and name of author of photographs." in Croatian. Tell me what else you need and I'll get it for you, no problem. -- 12:09, 14 December 2008 (UTC)

Something like

"I hereby release the following files under the license {{cc-by-sa-2.5}}: Image:Thompson_Maksimir_17.6.2007_1.jpg, Image:Thompson_Maksimir_17.6.2007_2.jpg, Image:Thompson_Maksimir_17.6.2007_3.jpg."

would be fine. Thank you, →Na·gy 12:51, 14 December 2008 (UTC)

The permission mail was sent on 15 Dec 2008 09:07. I don't have a ticket number as I bothered original author to send the permission email (to avoid any further deletions). Can you find the permission on the list? Where can I see the list anyway?
Is everything OK with the images now? -- 11:36, 15 December 2008 (UTC)
✓ All in order. Please note that permissions sent to COM:OTRS are not archived in any public mailing list, all data is only accessible to OTRS agents. Thanks for your work ! →Na·gy 15:36, 15 December 2008 (UTC)
NP, thanks for being user friendly ;-) --, formerly known as User:Dijxtra 14:46, 16 December 2008 (UTC)


Hi, I just checked my talk page and found out that a bunch of my images was deleted. To be precise: Image:Kangrga_25.5.2007_3.jpg, Image:Kangrga_25.5.2007_2.jpg, Image:Kangrga_25.5.2007_1.jpg, Image:Djole_Virovitica_04_2.gif, Image:Sava-centar-2005-pozornica.gif, Image:Sava-centar-2005-publika.gif, Image:Djole_ljubljana05_plakat.jpg, Image:Balasevic_in_home.gif, Image:Balasevic_Krizanke_2004_1.jpg, Image:Nenadjebivi_Krizanke_2004.jpg All of those are work of mine or of my personal friends. And I'm 100% sure I noted that on description page. What else am I supposed to do to keep this pictures from being deleted? This is not work of some professional photographer, those are pictures that were taken by my friends on concerts or while we were visiting some people. Do I really have to send email "my friend took this picture and he says it's OK to put them on wikimedia" for every picture I uploaded while I was contributing? I just don't get it. Could you please clarify this for me? --User:Dijxtra ( 20:54, 16 December 2008 (UTC)

Yeah I know, Commons can sometimes be very inconvenient... Even a mail sent by you to COM:OTRS would not be sufficient to undelete the images as you're not the original author. In short we need the confirmation of every single copyright holder to publish their works under one of the licenses allowed here (just as above). If you could arrange this, I'd be glad to restore your images ! Regards, →Na·gy 13:20, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
Huh. This will be a painful process. I don't remember who the authors of some of this images were, it's been some time. Can you check out the description pages of those images and post "source" parts of the description template? I think I wrote names of original authors there.
Author of one image is my ex girlfriend's father. He gave me a verbal permission to do whatever I wish with this photo. Contacting him is not an option, his daughter and I are not in good terms. So, can I just publish it as own work? I'm sure he wouldn't mind as we were on the trip together and if I had brought my camera, I'd be the author anyway (it is pure coincidence that he was the author, not me). Not to mention he doesn't have an email address (at least he didn't have last time I saw him).
BTW, do you have any idea how can I see which pages used to use this images before they were deleted? Putting those images back on their places on Wikipedia will be an interesting quest.
When did this policy change anyway? When I was actively contributing we didn't need to go through all of this (if we did, I'd do it back then).
Thanks for helping. --User:Dijxtra ( 14:48, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
Uh oh, I know copyright is a hard subject sometimes but I'm afraid we can't restore images without a clear statement written by the actual copyright holder. I compiled a list of the description pages to recover at least some of the deleted files.
We'll also have no choice other than reincluding them manually as User:CommonsDelinker removes all instances once a file has been deleted... →Na·gy 13:52, 18 December 2008 (UTC)

Please delete[edit]

Hello Nagy . Could you delete File:Cambodian-reader.jpg. It was uploaded by me. I don't think it's right to violate personal rights this way. Kensplanet (talk) 15:45, 19 December 2008 (UTC)

✓ Done. Regards, →Na·gy 15:52, 19 December 2008 (UTC)
Thanks, Nagy. Kensplanet (talk) 09:32, 20 December 2008 (UTC)

Bilder löschen[edit]

Hallo, ich verstehe nicht, warum Du meine Bilder

nicht löschen willst. Ich habe die Bilder durch dieselben mit anderen Namen ersetzt, weil es Schwierigkeiten mit dem Pluszeichen geben kann. Die Dateien können im COMMONS-Using-Befehl nicht gefunden werden! Um zu verhindern, dass die Bilder noch vor dem Löschen irgendwo eingesetzt werden, habe ich die Kategorien gleich gelöscht. Es muss doch im Interesse von WIKIPEDIA liegen, dass derartige Bilder (und somit Duplikate) gelöscht werden. Gruß, --R. Engelhardt (talk) 18:20, 22 December 2008 (UTC)

Ah, ich verstehe. Ich war nur etwas irritiert, da in die Loeschbegruendung bei allen drei Bildern ein Verweis auf File:2006-12-05 Max+Moritz-Quelle 4a.jpg eingebaut war. Wenn du mir hier die Links zu den drei Bildern mit korrektem Namen hinterlaesst, kann ich einen Verweis in den Loeschgrund einbauen und die Duplikate auf schnellstem Wege verschwinden lassen :) Danke, →Na·gy 00:15, 23 December 2008 (UTC)
Nachtrag: Ich habe die Duplikate nun ausfindig gemacht und hoffe, dass die nun erfolgte Löschung der Dateien File:2006-12-05 Max+Moritz-Quelle 7a.jpg‎, File:2006-12-05 Max+Moritz-Quelle 4a.jpg und File:2006-12-05 Max+Moritz-Quelle 2a.jpg‎ in deinem Sinne ist. Grüße, →Na·gy 11:06, 23 December 2008 (UTC)

Hallo, neu und somit als Ersatz für obige Bilder habe ich folgende Bilder hochgeladen:

Vielen Dank im Voraus! Gruß, --R. Engelhardt (talk) 11:07, 23 December 2008 (UTC)

Alles ok! --R. Engelhardt (talk) 11:10, 23 December 2008 (UTC)
 :) →Na·gy 11:11, 23 December 2008 (UTC)

Template talk:Pink CC/de[edit]

Hi, wenn Du soviel Zeit erübrigen könntest, dort Deine Meinung zu hinterlegen, wär's nett.

  • Kurzfassung: das tl sollte als deutschsprachige, nicht "Deutsche", Version allgemein genutzt werden können, insbesondere für en=0 "Bildspender" an COM. Da sind aber jetzt (nach ~6 Monaten) mindestens 2 en-sprachige Admins dagegen, und für einen längeren Palaver auf en fehlen mir dzt. Zeit+Nerv. Bevor da ein Edtiwar entsteht, hätte ich die Sache aber gern mit mir vertrauenswürdigeren Leuten in Ruhe besprochen. Blöd nur, dass um die Weihnachtszeit von Ruhe nicht viel zu merken ist ;) lg, Wolfgang 03:53, 23 December 2008 (UTC)
Um zunächst mögliche Missverständnisse zu beseitigen: Es handelt sich bei der Vorlage um {{Cc-by-sa-3.0}} mit der zusätzlichen Funktion, einzelne Parameter hinzuzufügen, korrekt ? Soweit ich das Hauptproblem nun richtig verstanden habe, soll auf Bildbeschreibungsseiten direkt {{Pink CC/de}} anstelle des bisher üblichen Schemas {{Pink CC}} eingefügt werden... aus Sicht der en-Admins kann ich die Ablehnung gewissermaßen nachvollziehen, da Commons insgeheim (und trotz der offiziellen Mehrsprachigkeit) in erster Linie englischsprachig ist. Wäre eine Vorgehensweise ähnlich der des Headers von meta:Meta:Babel eine Option ? Oder habe ich das Kernproblem noch nicht ganz erfasst ? Grüße, →Na·gy 11:48, 23 December 2008 (UTC)
  1. Ja, es geht um eine in jeder verfügbaren (=bereits übersetzten) Sprache editierbare Vorlage für "cc-by-sa-3.0" Lizenzierung. Wieweit im ursprünglichen Zustand (~5. Juni 2008) die vorhandene Vorlage "internationale" genutzt oder durch etwas prinzipiell anderes ersetzt wurde, liegt jenseits meines Horizonts. Seit den "Nachbesserungen" der Neufassung durch Unbekannt (könnte natürlich nachforschen, wer+wann) erscheint die Neufassung dem ursprünglichen {{CC-BY-SA-3.0}} jedenfalls bloß noch "übergestülpt/dazugeflickt".
  2. Genau, eine deutschsprachige Version soll (Und: auch beliebige andere Sprachversionen sollten) erlaubt sein, da en=0 Beitragende irgendwelche ihnen total unverständliche Texte noch seltener "unterschreiben" würden als sowieso-schon.
  3. Das mit "meta:Meta:Babel" schnalle ich dzt. noch nicht, ich werde mich bemühen da binnen ~24h durchzublicken und Rückmeldung zu geben.
  4. Grüße, und besten Dank für Deine prompte Reaktion. Wolfgang 14:24, 23 December 2008 (UTC)

Insignia templates[edit]

Hi. Insignia templates ar not license templates. Thus images such as File:Tyresös kommunvapen.png are not automatically free. /Lokal_Profil 18:25, 23 December 2008 (UTC)

Oh, good to know. I think I confused this template with the ones in Category:PD-EUGov license tags. Do you think it would be helpful to place a note like "This tag does not indicate the copyright status of the attached work. A normal copyright tag is still required. See Commons:Licensing for more information." within the template? Regards and thanks for the heads-up, →Na·gy 21:25, 23 December 2008 (UTC)
Thanks. Added the same line to {{insignia}} as well. /Lokal_Profil 15:40, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

Seasonal SPAM.[edit]

Hi, I'm aware that Christmas greetings are more-or-less to be considered to be SPAM, but I can't help:
Here is one more, which is from me.
Although I might have [and might in the future] disagree with you, I'd like to ascertain you that I respect and love you. Believe it or not. [w.] 16:38, 24 December 2008 (UTC)

Thank you sir, happy holidays to you :) →Na·gy 17:26, 24 December 2008 (UTC)


Please take a look at Commons:Deletion requests/Superseded and undelete any files you've deleted as superseded lately. Thank you, Multichill (talk) 23:57, 24 December 2008 (UTC)

Looks like you got 'em all (in fact just the Playstation lapses :P). →Na·gy 00:55, 25 December 2008 (UTC)


Esta toda esa informacion disponible en mi idioma (español)?

Is all that information available in spanish?

Hola! Please have a look at {{End of copyvios/es}} {{Image permission/es}}, and {{No tag message whitetemplate/es}}. That should be what you're looking for :) →Na·gy 10:17, 25 December 2008 (UTC)

Orion's Belt Images[edit]

Hello, you have deleted OrionsbeltBattle.png and OrionsbeltPresentation.png. I'm the author of those images and I'd like to know how to fix this. Thank you. 19:58, 25 December 2008 (UTC)

Hi there ! Please let me know if you're working for This would be the basis to have the images properly restored. Thanks, →Na·gy 20:39, 25 December 2008 (UTC)
Hello, yes I am. I can be reached at psantos at if you'd like additional confirmation. 10:32, 27 December 2008 (UTC)

Request for deletion[edit]

Please delete all these pictures. Thank you. --Nyo (talk) 21:40, 25 December 2008 (UTC)

Hi Nyo! I understand that you're hoping for a quick solution as this deletion request is in progress for four and a half months now, but I also feel it wouldn't be right to take such an action on the fly. I have to agree with Adambro's comment here. Feel free to contact me via Email to unveil the whole matter, I'd appreciate it. Happy Holidays, →Na·gy 22:46, 25 December 2008 (UTC)

Nagy on hr wiki -> anything else[edit]

Anything else wasn't occupied either on hr wiki or anywhere else, so Nagy (without contributions over a year from registration) is changed to Anything else :-)

Try now SUL, I'm a bit late for wishing happy Christmas, but New Year 2009 is (I suppose) ok ;-) SpeedyGonsales (talk) 15:06, 28 December 2008 (UTC)

Heh, thank you :) Happy New Year! →Na·gy 15:46, 28 December 2008 (UTC)

OTRS account[edit]

Hi, ich finde keine Möglichkeit, einen ebensolchen zu beantragen (kann durchaus an meinen etwas ausgeleierten Hirnzellen liegen; oder sind solche bloß für "Höhergestellte" erreichbar?).

Habe allerdings soeben einen zornigen Kommentar / =die_Bearbeitung_einer_Bildbeschreibung abgegeben, die eine etwas genauere Kenntnis des Vorgangs EIGENTLICH vorausgesetzt hätte -- grundsätzlich könnte der Uploader das Bildchen als Replik selber verfasst haben [was ich aber bezweifle], und SOLCHES ginge nur aus dem OTRS-Ticket hervor. Kannst Du mal File:Laozi drawing the Taijitu.PNG diesbezüglich checken?

Dass ich per Mail grundsätzlich leichter+schneller an- / =rück-sprechbar bin, erwähnte ich vermutlich bereits irgendwann. lg, [w.] 14:37, 30 December 2008 (UTC)

See also User_talk:Jappalang#Checking_on_this_OTRS [w.] 15:03, 30 December 2008 (UTC)
Erledigt (kein Antrag gestellt; meinen Irrtum bez. Bild(er) bemerkt/aufmerksam gemacht worden ;) -- danke für alles, &fall bloß nicht beim 'Rüberrutschen -- Deine Arbeitskraft ist mir allen wichtig ;)) [w.] 09:28, 31 December 2008 (UTC)


geht echt nicht, bitte mach das rückgängig. Weißt du wie viele Fritzes es gibt? Die drei Deppenkonten/tag schaffen wir schon ;) Grüße, abf « Cabale?! Quelle Caballe?» 21:10, 2 January 2009 (UTC)

Och immer mit der Ruhe, diese Regex betrifft nur die Fritzen in diesem akuten Falle (à la de:MediaWiki:Titleblacklist). Bin doch nicht bloed ;) →Na·gy 21:16, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
Ach, das ist Urinabähngig? Okay, dann kan ich den code falsch interpretiert, danke :) abf « Cabale?! Quelle Caballe?» 21:21, 2 January 2009 (UTC)


The CU info on the blocked de accounts has been passed on to the CU list - thought you might like to know. Regards (& Happy New Year), --Herby talk thyme 16:31, 3 January 2009 (UTC)

Thank you. Happy New Year, enjoy it. →Na·gy 17:40, 3 January 2009 (UTC)


Dear Nagy, thanks for deleting the infantile poo- and pee- photos from my talk page! I really appreciate this. Greetings, --Satrughna (talk) 16:53, 5 January 2009 (UTC)

You're welcome. →Na·gy 18:18, 5 January 2009 (UTC)

Thank You[edit]

Hi Nagy/arc1, I would like to express my gratitude for your participation at my recent RfA, which succeeded with an overwhelming final count of 100 % support. I'm happy that so many people have put faith in my abilities as an admin and I promise to use the tools wisely and do my best not to let you down. Please do feel free to get in touch if you feel you can improve me in any way; I will be glad to listen to all comments. Again, thanks,Abigor talk 17:45, 12 January 2009 (UTC)


... sag mal, meinst du nicht so n kleines Archiv wäre hier angebracht? ;) abf «Cabale?! Quelle Caballe?» 16:52, 13 January 2009 (UTC)