MediaWiki talk:Uploadtext

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This talk page concerns the "from somewhere else" upload page (also known as Special:Upload), and the basic upload form. Both upload pages are linked from Commons:Upload. MediaWiki:Uploadtext is used for the introductory text of the 2 upload pages. The right column, though, is different. MediaWiki:UploadFormQuickHelp is transcluded into the right column of Special:Upload. See this discussion and this one.
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We have reached 4 million files.

The system message says Commons have reached over 3 million files. This should be changed to 4 million files ;-) --87.166.236.97 19:12, 7 March 2009 (UTC)

 Done. Thanks for seeing that! --Kanonkas_(talk) 19:14, 7 March 2009 (UTC)

In all languages or only in English? And for all "uselang hack" subforms (ownwork, fromflickr, ...)? Lupo 19:24, 7 March 2009 (UTC)

All rights reserved - question

I have a series of beautiful postcards of Animlas of the Belgian Congo published by a Belgian Museum and they have given me permission to upload the pictures but only as "all rights reserved". I am 98% sure that wont work on the Commons but because the post cards are so nice, it is worth the 2% uncertainty to ask. Any help please ? Thanks Nick Nhobgood (talk) 20:17, 14 March 2009 (UTC)

Sorry - your 98% certainty was right. They wouldn't be allowed here, or indeed on Wikipedia or any WMF wiki. --MichaelMaggs (talk) 21:05, 14 March 2009 (UTC)

Thanks. Nhobgood (talk) 21:36, 14 March 2009 (UTC)

{{Own}} not yet used in upload form

I think it would be a good idea to pre-fill “{{Own}}” instead of “Own work by uploader”, “Eigenes Werk (own work)”, etc. (depending on the interface language). Otherwise, it will continue to cause a lot of bot traffic. --Leyo 13:29, 28 July 2009 (UTC)

MediaWiki:UploadFormOwnWorkLabel could be changed to {{Own}} and language-specific subpages such as MediaWiki:UploadFormOwnWorkLabel/fr could be deleted assuming the former is defined as the fallback. --Leyo 06:02, 18 August 2009 (UTC)

Can a link to Commons:Help desk be added?

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Can a link be added to to an active help page?

The link can possibly be added to the "Quick Help" section of the intro of Special:Upload.

I am not sure which help page is the main talk page for image help on the Commons. Is it Commons:Help desk?

From the note at the top of this talk page is this: MediaWiki:UploadFormQuickHelp is transcluded into the right column of Special:Upload.

The link might be added to MediaWiki:UploadFormQuickHelp. --Timeshifter (talk) 17:22, 28 July 2009 (UTC)

I would support some line like: "If you have any further questions, feel free to ask at the help desk". However, if we do this, this needs to be done on the other upload forms as well. --The Evil IP address (talk) 18:38, 9 August 2009 (UTC)

Sounds good to me. --Timeshifter (talk) 21:34, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

I have added the line by The Evil Ip, but now it should be a good idea to fix all other languages as well. Huib talk 09:26, 5 September 2009 (UTC)

thanks! --Timeshifter (talk) 03:49, 7 September 2009 (UTC)

{{int:filedesc}} and {{int:license}}

The upload form should use {{int:filedesc}} instead of Summary/Beschreibung/etc. and {{int:license}} instead of Licensing etc. --Apalsola ^{t • c} 13:26, 16 August 2009 (UTC)

Then open a bug report at Bugzilla. These headings are added by the server if the user chose a license from the drop-down menu. Lupo 15:11, 16 August 2009 (UTC)

That would be interesting... a bug report asking them to make another bug more widespread. :) Rocket000 (talk) 04:52, 18 August 2009 (UTC)

Please, could you explain. Do you think it is a bad idea to use {{int:filedesc}} and {{int:license}} or what? --Apalsola ^{t • c} 09:26, 18 August 2009 (UTC)

See bugzilla:14404. That {{int:}} "feature" is actually considered a bug because it leaves link tables inconsistent. Lupo 09:33, 18 August 2009 (UTC)

Public domain definitions

On the Special:Upload page, it says uploaded works must be in the public domain in the "source country (author died more than 70 years ago) and in the U.S." In my country (New Zealand), the law is life +50 years, not life +70. Am I able to upload works that fall into the life +50 but not the life +70 category?— Preceding unsigned comment added by Mosborne01 (talk • contribs) 04:37, 11 October 2009 (UTC)

Please read Commons:Licensing#New Zealand and Commons:Copyright tags#New Zealand. If you are still in doubt, please ask at Commons:Help desk or Commons talk:Licensing. Thank you--Trixt (talk) 09:22, 11 October 2009 (UTC)

Explain MB is 1,048,576 bytes

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The Upload form states under the source filename field "Maximum file size: 100 MB", but does not explain what "MB" means. Could some kind of internationalized note be added to the end of the introductory text, maybe in Other tips? For example:

Deutsch: MB bedeutet 1.048.576 bytes, also 100 MB bedeutet 104.857.600 bytes.

English: MB means 1,048,576 bytes, so 100 MB means 104,857,600 bytes.

and so on. Unless it is possible to make the MB a wikilink to a page that clarifies it. -84user (talk) 05:06, 22 December 2009 (UTC)

IMO this is pointlessly nitpicky. Don't know off-hand whether we can link "MB" to Megabyte, but anyway that article explains that the meaning is ambiguous. I also think we may assume that nowaday people have at least an idea of the order of magnitude of what "MB" and "GB" means. (Well, maybe our youngest contributors really have no idea anymore about "MB" or "kB"... :-) Lupo 11:09, 22 December 2009 (UTC)

What could be done in my opinion would be to write: "Maximum file size: 100 MB (1,048,576 bytes)". But I don't know if it's really necessary information on the upload page, but I'll leave this question to the uploadform expert Lupo. --The Evil IP address (talk) 14:26, 22 December 2009 (UTC)

Figure out what you guys want and than add {{Edit protected}}. Not done for now. Multichill (talk) 15:19, 1 January 2010 (UTC)

Related to my request, maybe I should have asked what the exact upload limit is exactly, and what does the server do when the limit is exceeded? Is there maybe a connection time limit? Two weeks ago I uploaded 96.34 MB (about 101019812 bytes) as File:Bb bamboo isle.mpg.vbr1400merged.ogg, but when I just now tried to upload 97.8 MB (or exactly 102636959 bytes) in File:Making_of_Elephants_Dream.ogv, the upload connection appeared to close after about 1 and a half hours of data uploading. I had edited Commons:Video#Uploading a video stating the limit as 104,857,600 bytes (from 1 MB = 1048576 bytes). -84user (talk) 02:04, 6 January 2010 (UTC)

The answer should be somewhere in the files at noc.wikimedia.org, specifically in the "PHP configuration" section. However, it's a bit confusing because there are two different php.ini files there, one of which says:

upload_max_filesize = 20M
post_max_size = 20M

and the other:

upload_max_filesize = 100M
post_max_size = 100M

I'd assume that the latter is the one that's actually in current use, but I can't say for sure. In any case, the fact that upload_max_filesize and post_max_size are set to the same value means that the latter will kick in first, and that the actual upload size limit will be 100 MB minus the overhead of the HTTP POST request. (Ps. You may also want to look at this page and follow the links from there.) —Ilmari Karonen (talk) 14:13, 6 January 2010 (UTC)

Special:Upload not working

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A notice needs to be put on the Special:Upload page saying that it is not working. I am using Firefox browser. I have tried several times. Every time the form says "You must give the original source of the file, the author of the work, and a license."

There is something in the spot for original source, and also in the spot for author. I put {{Template:PD}} in the "additional info" spot.

I have tried from a new browser window in the second round of upload tries. --Timeshifter (talk) 06:33, 9 January 2010 (UTC)

Looks to me like it's working. Just put "{{PD}}" there. Lupo 10:40, 9 January 2010 (UTC)

But note that the template {{PD}} is deprecated. Lupo 10:41, 9 January 2010 (UTC)

I tried several PD templates in the "additional info" spot. None worked.

The most frustrating problem, though, is that one is given only try. Then it locks up. Even loading a new browser window and starting over gives only one attempt, and the same incorrect message: "You must give the original source of the file, the author of the work, and a license."

Try uploading an image (any image) without using the license selector, and put any of the PD license templates in the "additional info" spot. --Timeshifter (talk) 19:21, 9 January 2010 (UTC)

Works perfectly well for me. What browser, operating system, and skin are you using? What other gadgets do you have enabled? Does the problem persist if you go to the upload form and then refresh your browser's cache on that page? Lupo 10:53, 11 January 2010 (UTC)

Maybe it got fixed since I first posted here Jan. 9, 2010. I found this:

Commons:Graphics village pump#Recent modifications of basic upload form

My problem and their problem both sound like scripting problems. I haven't tried uploading again since Jan. 9, 2010. But if it is working for you, then I will worry about it next time around. I am using Firefox, Win XP home, and the default skin on the Commons. I opened a whole new window on my second attempt. I think, not sure, that I cleared the cache (shift-reload on Firefox). I ended up uploading the image via the basic upload form that day. See File:Incarceration Rate in the United States 1985,1990-2008.gif. --Timeshifter (talk) 14:47, 11 January 2010 (UTC)

add please read SCOPE

{{Editprotected}} Please place the following line, or similar, above the line "Where is the work from?":

Please read Commons:Project scope first.

This is in the hope that new uploaders will better understand what Commons accepts, and thus avoid misunderstandings later. I find the SCOPE page clear and well written and should serve potential uploaders well. Wha prompted me to make this suggestion is:

• I clicked on Upload as if I was a new user and saw useful links to kinds of image, but nothing giving an overview
• reading Commons:Village pump makes me suspect some uploaders genuinely do not realize there is an agreed scope

-84user (talk) 00:49, 10 April 2010 (UTC)

The page already says "Also, please only upload [[Commons:Project scope|useful files]]; Wikimedia Commons is for educational or informational content.". Plus, I don't see "Where is the work from?" anywhere. Are you perhaps looking for Commons talk:Upload ? –Krinkle^talk 17:33, 10 April 2010 (UTC)

Yes, I was looking at Commons talk:Upload. I must have clicked the wrong Talk link. I will repost this request at Commons talk:Upload#add please read SCOPE. -84user (talk) 19:53, 10 April 2010 (UTC)

Categories are not added to the File

Hello,

I have just uploaded File:Vision, Ernst Barlach.jpg, and selected Category:Ernst Barlach using the Hot-Cat-gadget-like tool at the bottom of the page. When the file was uploaded, I discovered that the category had not been added, and I had to add it again separately diff.

Note also that I have the following message at the top of Special:Upload :

TypeError: optionsTable.children has no properties http://bits.wikimedia.org/skins-1.5/common/upload.js?268z50 (56)

I am using the "Classic" skin.

Teofilo (talk) 13:01, 11 April 2010 (UTC)

Specialized license tag in permission box

{{Edit request}} In the Special:Upload form the license selector at the bottom of the page says this:

"None selected (add a license tag in the box above, or this file will be deleted)."

Please add one word and change that line to:

"None selected (add a license tag in the permission box above, or this file will be deleted)."

Otherwise, some people may be baffled when they add a specialized license tag in the box just below the permission box, and the upload does not work.

Putting a specialized tag such as {{UN map}} in the permission box works fine. I just used it when I uploaded this image:

• File:Westbankjan06. Legend.jpg

--Timeshifter (talk) 05:43, 3 October 2010 (UTC)

 Done MediaWiki:Nolicense. – Kwj2772 (msg) 11:29, 3 October 2010 (UTC)

Grammar fix

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Please add a comma after "case", i.e. "In any case, you have to select the appropriate..." Nyttend (talk) 14:12, 19 March 2013 (UTC)

•  Done, thanks for helping! odder (talk) 21:49, 26 March 2013 (UTC)

4 fixes

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0. Please change

Reproduction of a painting that is in the public domain because of its age

to

Reproduction of a painting or other 2-dimensional work that is in the public domain because of its age (Note: After uploading, you will have to edit the {{tl:PD-Art}} license tag to add details about what makes it old enough; see Template:PD-Art.)

by editing MediaWiki:Licenses, I think. If you can't add the parenthetical, add just the other part, but I think you can add both.

This is far too verbose for a select element. Also Links are not allowed inside. I've done what I could. Please test the changes. -- Rillke^(q?) 19:33, 14 July 2014 (UTC)

Ah, I found the change here. --Elvey (talk) 22:55, 31 October 2014 (UTC)

1. Please add {{tl:PD-US-no_notice}} to the PD section too. Put this after PD-US: PD-US-no_notice|First published in the United States between 1923 and 1977 'without a copyright notice

    Done Please test the changes. -- Rillke^(q?) 19:33, 14 July 2014 (UTC)

2. Please add a link to this page: Commons:Redesigning_the_upload_form and MediaWiki:UploadForm.js/Documentation.

   Where should the links go to and in which verbal context? -- Rillke^(q?) 19:33, 14 July 2014 (UTC)

3. It's NOT New! Please change

New! Try the Upload Wizard instead

to

You may prefer the Upload Wizard; it can be used for the most common kinds of uploads:..., and it's easier to use.

 Done by Steinsplitter. -- Rillke^(q?) 19:33, 14 July 2014 (UTC)

TIA! Please refer to the #s in any discussion. --Elvey (talk) 08:46, 24 May 2014 (UTC) Hello? odder perhaps? 03:13, 4 June 2014 (UTC)

Too tired using by brain today, can you explain? -- Rillke^(q?) 19:33, 14 July 2014 (UTC)

+1, I endorse these fixes -- great suggestions, @Elvey: ! -Pete F (talk) 01:16, 5 June 2014 (UTC)

Thanks, Pete F ! --Elvey (talk) 22:45, 31 October 2014 (UTC)

No reply since July to Rillke question, therefore removed edit protected template. --Steinsplitter (talk) 11:35, 29 October 2014 (UTC)

Sorry for the v. slow reply. I'm confused; where are the changes? https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=MediaWiki:Uploadtext&diff=125767028&oldid=108784762 shows just the removal of "New!", and no other changes in the history since am having trouble finding the rest. (poof? Do here?) --Elvey (talk) 22:45, 31 October 2014 (UTC)

Stale for almost a year. Removed edit request. --Hedwig in Washington ^(mail?) 00:52, 19 August 2015 (UTC)

Deprecated HTML

Could someone update this to not use deprecated HTML atrributes/elements and use CSS instead? Helder 21:14, 24 January 2015 (UTC)

Translation Swedish

When using Swedish form I see "Maximal filstorlek: 1,000 MB" ("Maximum file size: 1,000 MB"), the problem is that in Swedish language "1,000 MB" is one MB, not a thousand MB. Comma used that way in Swedish is for decimals. The way to write it in Swedish is "1 000 MB". /Hangsna (talk) 10:16, 1 February 2015 (UTC)

• The stuff I see looks very confusing and there's a confusing mixture of languages.

On the first line, the word "Källfil" is in Swedish, whereas the rest of the text (参照 and ファイルが選択されていません。) is in Japanese.

On the second line, it says "Maximal filstorlek: 1,000 MB (din valda fil från din dator)", and the file size (1,000 MB) is in English, whereas the rest of the text is in Swedish. Some users might not notice that the form suddenly uses English in the middle and misinterpret "1,000 MB" as Swedish (i.e. "1.000 MB" in English).

On the third line, there is a mixture of Swedish and English: "Maximal filstorlek: 1,000 MB (your chosen file from a valid, publicly accessible URL)". Here the text before "1,000 MB" is in Swedish whereas the text after is in English, leaving users puzzled as it is unclear whether "1,000 MB" is Swedish or English (which means a difference by a factor of one thousand).

I think that the form should be simplified so that only one language is used. If you view the Swedish form, then only Swedish should be used. If you view the English form, then only English should be used. If you view the Japanese form, then only Japanese should be used. There should never be a mixture of the three languages like this. --Stefan4 (talk) 11:59, 1 February 2015 (UTC)

Broken link for the CommonSense tool

{{Edit request}} The link http://tools.wikimedia.de/~daniel/WikiSense/CommonSense.php for the CommonSense tool leads to an error page. Please consider changing the following text:
*Add categories to the image. Use the [http://tools.wikimedia.de/~daniel/WikiSense/CommonSense.php CommonSense] tool to find [[Commons:Categories#Categorizing_your_uploads|categories]].
to the following text instead:
*Add [[Commons:Categories|categories]] to the image.
Thanks. --Gazebo (talk) 06:05, 27 June 2016 (UTC)

 Done Awesome! Thank you! Steinsplitter (talk) 10:45, 27 June 2016 (UTC)

Edit request 16 October 2021

{{Edit request}} Please add class="scriptonly" to the span tag around the "Try the UploadWizard" button, this hides the button if you have JavaScript disabled, the UploadWizard requires JavaScript, and going to it without JavaScript just fallbacks to Special:Upload. Dylsss (talk) 17:02, 16 October 2021 (UTC)

 Done. I tried to edit MediaWiki:Uploadtext/ownwork in the same way but it didn’t work for some reason (when I loaded the page the div would just have class="center") so I reverted that attempt. --Lucas Werkmeister (talk) 19:01, 16 October 2021 (UTC)

@Lucas Werkmeister: When I go to Special:Permalink/599105500 on MediaWiki:Uploadtext/ownwork, I do see class="center scriptonly" on the div, and it doesn't display when I disable JavaScript, are you sure you were looking at the right HTML tag or diff? Dylsss (talk) 20:23, 16 October 2021 (UTC)

I was looking at https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Upload&uselang=ownwork, and it only had class="center", whereas after my incorrect edit I think it had id="commons-upwiz-advertising-button scriptonly" (or at least something was different, otherwise I wouldn’t have noticed my mistake). Lucas Werkmeister (talk) 20:57, 16 October 2021 (UTC)