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Bugatti T57 Stelvio[edit]

Dear Mr.choppers, thank you for creating this category. I wonder if you are aware that Stelvio production, although a "factory" body style, and and a Jean Bugatti design, was "outsourced" almost completely to Gangloff coachbuilders, at Colmar. Very few bodies were built by other than Gangloff's, and, to my knowledge, none at all was built at Carrosseries Bugatti. I ask this because you obviously found a picture (ore more?) of a very rare Letourneur & Marchand Stelvio. Do you agree that this category should be categorized under Gangloff rather than L & M?
I already "cleaned up" the Gangloff category, as I'm re-working presently the Bugatti T57 article in German WP as well as preparing a new one about Gangloff in each German and English WP.--Chief tin cloud (talk) 16:37, 21 September 2013 (UTC)

I'm in your hands. I believe I simply based my grouping on this photo, which was not uploaded by me. As long as that single photo also appears in the L & M category, I think everything's fine. Cheers, mr.choppers (talk)-en- 16:45, 21 September 2013 (UTC)
As it's possible that more L &M Stelvios appear, I'll change this category to Gangloff (Colmar, add a short explation, and add this photo to the L & M category. As Jean Bugatti liberally gave away his sketches (but not blueprints), there might show up Stelvios by other coachbuilders as well. I hope you agree with this procedure?--Chief tin cloud (talk) 10:33, 22 September 2013 (UTC)
Fully agree. Thanks for your consideration. mr.choppers (talk)-en- 23:58, 22 September 2013 (UTC)

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File:Shuguang DG 1021 pickup, Lhasa.jpg[edit]

Hello Mr.choppers ! I asked Erik from Chinese Car about your picture. He wrote me this : "I think it is right. Before that Huanghai bought Dandong Shuguang Axle Joint Stock Co; Ltd., vehicles from Shuguang were called Shuguang DG1020, etc ... In my archives, I didn't find the name "Smoothing", but I found a 2003 model year pick-up, which is called Tiaozhanzhe DG1020A / DG1020B which is same." If you have any questions about old Chinese vehicles; don't hesitate to contact Erik on his website : http://www.chinesecars.net/ Erik is THE bible for Chinese vehicles ! Navigator84 - talk 11:31, 25 September 2013 (UTC+1)

Erik is indeed the bible, I used to see his photos in German magazines when I was a kid. I send him a mail every so often and also own a few of his books - goldmines of information. mr.choppers (talk)-en- 15:55, 25 September 2013 (UTC)

About 1960 Beijing luxury sedan[edit]


Hello, Mr.choppers.

I think that the "Beijing" sedan's style is more likely copied from 1957 Chrysler New Yorker, as you can see in these pictures.

P.S.There's a picture of the Beijing sedan's rear view(link). I didn't upload it here because it's not clear--the car's boot is so close to the wall that I can't get a complete and distinct picture. ChengH (talk) 14:30, 21 October 2013 (UTC)

Well, I was quoting from Erik Van Ingen Schenau's book "CARS and 4 x 4s from BEIJING and TIANJIN". I feel that aside from the prominent grille, the shape of the car's body does indeed look a lot like the 1956 Buick. In any case, I just wanted you to know I didn't just make it up myself! It's particularly noticable in the side view, with the greenhouse being very true to the Buick. The truth is obviously that the car is a bit of an amalgam of several period US designs, and since they themselves also look very similar it's all a bit of a crapshoot. Thanks for the great photos btw! mr.choppers (talk)-en- 14:52, 21 October 2013 (UTC)
Hongqi CA774. Right of it is Beijing CB4
You're right, it is based on a Buick. But this car has only two rows of seat, not three, as you can see in the picture and here.
I'd appreciate it if you can share more information about this car--since it's very rare and not built in Changchun, I can get little info here, in JLU. Plus, do you think it worthy to create a page in Wikipedia about this car, or add it to en:Beijing Automotive Group (or en:Automotive industry in the People's Republic of China, if you think BAIC is no longer what it was back to the 1960s)? ChengH (talk) 11:11, 22 October 2013 (UTC)
Great, I would like to but even Erik doesn't have much info beyond what I already added to your photo. The limos were handbuilt and didn't lead anywhere, so there is not much to say about them. If you add content to en:Beijing Automotive Group I will be happy to add on a source or two. The CA774 is a very intriguing design to me, I should really add more info to the Hongqi article but am currently busy with other affairs. I look forward to some amount of collaboration in EN:WP. See you around, mr.choppers (talk)-en- 23:48, 22 October 2013 (UTC)
You don't think its an amalgam of a 1958 Bel Air and a 1958 Bel Air, i.e. a straightforward copy? Eddaido (talk) 10:24, 3 July 2015 (UTC)
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File:Datsun 620 622.JPG and "modified" template[edit]

Hi there,

It looks like you did a fantastic job removing the rust on File:Datsun 620 622.JPG. Given the amount of changes, it's impressive that the new version *doesn't* look obviously retouched- nice one!

In cases like these where the original has been significantly retouched or modified- however well- it's definitely a good idea to note this by including the following template in the description:-

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I've already added it to this image ( {{modified|Significant photoshopping to remove bad rust.}} ), but I thought you'd find this useful.

Once again, thanks for your great photoshopping job. All the best, CarbonCaribou (talk) 16:44, 3 November 2013 (UTC)

Thanks a lot, I will make sure to use said template in the future. mr.choppers (talk)-en- 19:03, 3 November 2013 (UTC)

Editor @ ar.wiki[edit]

Hello. I would like to inform you that I have granted you editor flag at the Arabic Wikipedia, all your edits there will be automatically marked as patrolled. Best regards.--Avocato (talk) 07:21, 6 December 2013 (UTC)

Thanks a lot - I am not particularly active over there but it's good to know that I can be trusted! Cheers, mr.choppers (talk)-en- 14:16, 6 December 2013 (UTC)

Model Wiesmann[edit]

Hello! You asked for the model of the Wiesmann Roadster shown in Wiesmann Roadster. I really didn't know this. The photo is taken April 10th, 2005 at the old location of the Sportwagenmanufaktur Wiesmann. It's the car of a visitor. I suspect, however, that it is a MF30.--XRay talk 07:48, 21 December 2013 (UTC)

That's what I believe, too, but it's hard to tell with these small series manufacturers. I'll have to do some research and see if there are any distinguishing characteristics. Cheers, mr.choppers (talk)-en- 18:10, 21 December 2013 (UTC)

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User problems report[edit]

Hi. Please pay attention to a new report: Commons:Administrators' noticeboard/User problems#User:Liamdavies and trams in Prague. --ŠJů (talk) 19:23, 1 February 2014 (UTC)

Editing note[edit]

Hi. Thanks for your work improving identification and categories on automobiles! Please note not to remove license info, as you did I presume by accident in this edit. Thanks for your attention. Cheers, -- Infrogmation (talk) 22:53, 12 March 2014 (UTC)

Oops! I'm glad it was noticed before there was any mischief. mr.choppers (talk)-en- 23:48, 12 March 2014 (UTC)

Your new photos[edit]

Hi Mr.choppers,

Just dropping by to say hi ! I like your new DSLR car photos very much. The quality is simply impeccable ! Please do keep up the excellent work. :]

Best regards,
Aero777 (talk) 04:13, 6 May 2014 (UTC)

Seconded! Great work, really appreciated. Your photos are easily the best these days. OSX (talkcontributions) 06:30, 6 May 2014 (UTC)
Thanks guys, all due to the Canon EOS 6D. However, it will mostly be used for baby pictures for the next few years, so don't expect too much for a little while. mr.choppers (talk)-en- 13:21, 10 May 2014 (UTC)
Thirded, on all the pics really, and congrats on babb. 86.167.208.148 09:21, 14 August 2014 (UTC)

A cookie for you![edit]

Choco chip cookie.png I've now solved the redlink issue with the new vehicle-by-year navigation templates. You can have a look at Category:1973 Imperial vehicles to see for yourself. Hopefully this resolves your concerns. Now, we can use the standardized navigational templates for all makes of cars and selectively use the "displayredlinks=no" code to make sure that redlinks to nonexistent categories for model years that never did (and never will) exist are not displayed. Please forgive me for any stress, anger, and/or aggravation that I have caused you. Thanks, and take care! Michael Barera (talk) 23:50, 17 May 2014 (UTC)

Mazda6[edit]

Are you sure this is a hatchback [1]? I'm almost certain that US models were sedan-only, and this looks very much like a sedan to me (e.g. no rear wiper, etc). OSX (talkcontributions) 05:17, 30 May 2014 (UTC)

Yeah, you're right - changed it back. The rear of the Mazda6 is very amorphous... mr.choppers (talk)-en- 03:30, 1 June 2014 (UTC)

A barnstar for you![edit]

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Thank you so much for the large number of excellent photographs that you have uploaded over the years, especially those you have taken of automobiles. Please accept this barnstar as a small token of my appreciation. Photographers like you are a big reason why Wikimedia Commons is such a great resource. Thanks again for all your hard work and great photos, and take care! Michael Barera (talk) 02:59, 31 May 2014 (UTC)
Much obliged, thank you! Now, if people could only stop driving around in really booooring cars. Would make my photography more fun! mr.choppers (talk)-en- 03:31, 1 June 2014 (UTC)

Category:Wolseley automobiles[edit]

Hi MrC. (I know I'm) At the risk of seeming unbelievable rude yet again but do you truly believe that Morio's system of categorising old cars is right? See his changes here and the correspondence here

If you do think Morio is correct in his changes I am strongly inclined to toss any files I find back once again in yet another mindless heap - it does seem I'm the only one that actually (used to?) cares but then it would seem like that wouldn't it.

Such squirrels plant nuts apparently intending them to be lost. I refer to my sock drawer comment to you when you wrote to me on a similar matter.

Cheers, Eddaido (talk) 04:24, 14 June 2014 (UTC)

I can't quite tell what is going on, all I know is that Wolseley pictures are currently in a state of flux. Reading you guys' conversation also doesn't help elucidate what the problem is. Happy to lend an eye once I know more, mr.choppers (talk)-en- 05:16, 15 June 2014 (UTC)
I see there is a later message about categories on this page, I don't know about that / those matters.
"Wolseley pictures are in a state of flux". Yes I suppose that is fair comment, To simplify things, please would you point me to an example of the correct way of organising these things. I can only show how Wolseley used to be (i.e. as arranged by me) by reverting Morio's edits which even at more than six months delay seems unnecessarily offensive. So please, an example, an ideal for the main page.
In order to be confident and before I wrote the last phrase, I just had a look at Wolseley's here Instead of as usual diving for what I want I also went and flicked below that main page and found things much much fluxier than I knew! Oh dear! and like that since November . . .
Sock drawer. If the sock drawer has but one layer and it holds 120 socks say in 12 columns each of 10 rows, one may see at a glance or faster just what's available. Cars are a very visual item to categorise, too often their pictures have almost no, or no, clue to their identity. Find a picture of a partly identical car and you can get started on the i.d.
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If the sock drawer is arranged to hold ten layers of 4 columns and 3 rows no-one is going to bother to scrabble about hunting for remote possible solutions 10 layers down. Well, are they! For old slightly mysterious cars keep the categories as shallow as possible or (generous) photographers will continue to dump in new subcategories they've specially made in a moment for the purpose. Shouldn't this be off your talk page? Please shut me down by sending me off to look at the current ideal so I can try to learn to love it or at least (it seems) not smash it. Regards, Eddaido (talk) 00:58, 16 June 2014 (UTC)
I feel that I largely agree with your notions of making pictures findable rather than hiding them away in subcategories. Having once been embroiled in a six-month argument with an off-his-rocker Polish dude over his completely insane categorizations, I attempted to make a map of what I envisioned, so as to make him comprehend why I was arguing with him. Since categories are time consuming to change around and it is hard to compare them since only one model is available at a given time, I recommend that you make a similar drawing. Sometimes, making a sketch actually helps clarifying ones own thoughts. Perhaps Morio (I've dealt with him in the past w/o any troubles) and you can then come up with a collaborative effort which will make everyone happier still. Cheers, mr.choppers (talk)-en- 21:41, 16 June 2014 (UTC)
Thank you. I'm working on it. Regards, Eddaido (talk) 09:05, 18 June 2014 (UTC)

Car classification[edit]

Hi, may I have some explanation concerning your massive deletion about car classification categories. Is it possible to discuss?

These classification categories are mentioned in Wikipedia infoboxes. This information is relayed by Wikidata and used for data structuration. What's the problem concerning Commons? A1AA1A (talk) 08:33, 15 June 2014 (UTC)

Your categories are senseless and arbitrary. I think that your additions are negative, as they only add confusing categories which do not help in the least. "Standard City Car" is not a recognized anything and your grouping is arbitrary, which then opens the gates for tons of arguing whether the New Mini is this or that, etcetera etcetera. Feel free to bring up your feelings where it can be further discussed, just make sure to notify me if you do. Thanks, mr.choppers (talk)-en- 21:32, 16 June 2014 (UTC)
Hi Mr.choppers, « Mysenseless and arbitrary » categories are defined by European authorities as the following:
  • A: mini cars aka city cars
  • B: small cars aka supermini, subcompact or polyvalent city cars
  • C: medium cars aka compact cars or small family cars
  • D: large cars or large family cars
  • E: executive cars
  • F: luxury cars
  • S: sport coupés
  • M: multipurpose cars
  • J: sport utility vehicles (including off-road vehicles) (cf. en:Euro Car Segment)

You have the right to consider purely subjective the differences between these categories or between blue and red cars, nevertheless these categories are commonly used and very useful to describe the market or characterize different models of manufacturers. They are used here or there, there again and even there. When manufacturers propose a 108, a 208 and a 308, corresponding to a i10, a i20 and a i30, they clearly refer to the three first categories, giving them all their sense. I observe these categories are well documented and useful to identify a model and its challengers, and consider there was no reason for your authoritarian deletions. Don't hesitate to improve these categories or their denomination but don't be negative. A1AA1A (talk) 22:40, 20 June 2014 (UTC)

And in the US the categories have different names, as do they in Japan and in other markets. They are not set, they are often arbitrary, and many cars straddle categories. Having seen the ongoing mess of car classifications in English language WP, I don't want to expand it to the Commons where we also have an even wider range of editors. mr.choppers (talk)-en- 16:29, 22 June 2014 (UTC)

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My Ride My Girl[edit]

Mr. Choppers,

I came across my car on this website. You took a picture of my car 1990 Oldsmobile Eighty Eight Royale in Oct. of 2012 in Harlem. Had I wanted my car displayed on the web it would have been my choice to do so. You invaded along with violated my privacy literally. If I didn't want anyone to know my location you made my location public and I am totally appalled. I would appreciate it very much if you'd take the image of my car down from the website. Just because you can shoot something doesn’t mean you can publish it.

It's a nice car. Alas, the US has freedom of panorama which means anyone is free to take photographs in public. As a token of respect for the owner of the car, I blanked the plates. I think that will be sufficient. Cheers, mr.choppers (talk)-en- 13:42, 19 September 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for the heads up! :) Keep up the good work. Regards Alfvanbeem (talk) 08:01, 2 October 2014 (UTC)

Re:Abarth[edit]

Hi, sorry for my answer on late, I was left for holidays. Talking about the Abarth model you have shown me, it's very difficult to say with absolute precision if it's a 850 or a 1000, because these models often used to interchange parts from a model to another. It's not rare to find a simple Fiat 600 tuned to resemble an Abarth. But I think that the picture you have shown me it's a real Abarth. And I think that it's a real 1000, more precisely a 1000 TC Corsa (Corsa means Race in italian). You can distinguish the Corsa version from a normal 1000 TC for its big front radiator. But if you want to distinguish the 1000 TC Corsa from the 850 TC Corsa you have to take a look inside the car, where a new bigger dashboard was mounted. Outside the 1000 differs from the 850 only for the lateral stripes, so it's not a sure way to distinguish the two models. I hope I have help you in same way. Bye bye! --Luc106 (talk) 21:22, 12 October 2014 (UTC)

Yes, as always you were very helpful. Thank you, mr.choppers (talk)-en- 01:42, 14 October 2014 (UTC)

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volvo 244 gasoline engine station wagon[edit]

Hello sir am interested in volvo 244 ,i can be reach on my phone thanks

The station wagon is called a 245. This is an encyclopedia, not a used car market place, however. I removed your phone number, you dingbat. mr.choppers (talk)-en- 00:43, 18 February 2015 (UTC)

Fiat motor[edit]

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I was wondering where you took the shot the fiat 128 motor cut away that you posted on wikipedia. Can you please let me know where this is from I own 2 1977 fiat 1/9 cars and would love to find out more about the location of it and maybe include that information on my site that I am building about my fiats with information about them.

Thanks James.

You mean this one? At the Rahmi M. Koç Museum of Transportation in Istanbul. Cheers, mr.choppers (talk)-en- 02:33, 19 February 2015 (UTC)

OTRS permissions queues[edit]

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little grey truck[edit]

This one?

hi my name is Kenny I am very interested in your dodge d50 truck. please call me at xxxxxx.

If you're referring to this photo, it was shot by a Canadian man called Dave7 many years ago, and either sold or scrapped. The photo was then uploaded to the Commons by a Swedish guy called Liftarn (in 2008), and then I cropped it few years later. I have very little to do with it, and be careful where you post your phone number. mr.choppers (talk)-en- 02:54, 11 March 2015 (UTC)

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File:1954 Riley 1½-litre RME Saloon.jpg[edit]

Hi Mr Choppers, how did you get the details from the Victoria registration authorities? I would very much like to be able to do that myself. Regards, Eddaido (talk) 13:39, 14 May 2015 (UTC)

Flickr photos[edit]

Hi, I found all of your Flickr files that were not categorised under your personal category and placed them in: Category:Own work - files by User:Mr.choppers. OSX II (talk) 07:12, 22 May 2015 (UTC)

@OSX II: - Too nice! I have been doing them in a scattershot fashion, this will save me a lot of wasted time. Cheers, mr.choppers (talk)-en- 00:42, 23 May 2015 (UTC)

Category:1940 Chevrolet automobiles[edit]

Hi Mr Choppers. What do you think about this because I remember you have an interest in this kind of thing. Yesterday I was looking at late 1930s Chevrolets. To my astonishment I found that for 1940 there were images of 24 modified cars but just 12 unmodified cars. Just now I decided to do something about it and so it is easy to see I made a new category (which can be removed if necessary) for modified cars. Do you have any thoughts about this? Regards, Eddaido (talk) 22:52, 29 May 2015 (UTC)

@Eddaido: - very useful, I think I did something similar with a Ford Mustang, as it became nearly impossible to find a useful picture amongst all of the chromed wheels and sidepipes amd airbrushing garbage. Cheers, lemme know if any reaction should take place. mr.choppers (talk)-en- 01:36, 30 May 2015 (UTC)
That's good. Should I take it to Wikiproject Automobiles talk page or just go ahead and make more? Thanks, Eddaido (talk) 02:58, 30 May 2015 (UTC)
I'd say make more, but only when it's truly necessary. I reckon that if the majority of images are of heavily modified cars, then go ahead and "hide" the useless ones. mr.choppers (talk)-en- 05:23, 30 May 2015 (UTC)

Categorising images[edit]

This past week I have been working on a French gent to let me have his photograph of a spectacular Rolls-Royce by Arthur Mulliner. He has consented. He permitted 2 pictures of the car. I have told him several times how difficult it is to find images of Arthur Mulliner cars.

Imagine my embarrassment when having done some tidying in the category I discover a total of Eight other images of the same car on the same occasion by two other photographers and now we have Ten. Each of those other photographers had secreted their images away in their own little sub-category. Why? ((forgivable) laziness?) And why do this when it makes it impossible to scan through and find images because the category has been broken up into so much minor detail. Again categories should be flattened out so images can be Found! Or an uploader can find out if they are duplicating. Or an uploader can see samples to identify the item in their new image.

Do we expect anyone to actually Look at these pictures we gather up? Thank God its Friday, I'm out of breath with all this yelling. :) Grumpy Eddaido (talk) 10:13, 3 July 2015 (UTC)

The line between correctly organizing and making things findable is often hard to find. The worst are a couple of Polish editors, who have made pictures of all Polish-made cars nearly impossible to find. Check out Category:FSO Polonez for a horror example. Hope I didn't help hide the Mulliner Rollers! mr.choppers (talk)-en- 13:36, 3 July 2015 (UTC)
Ah yes, I have often been a bit annoyed with Supermat creating subcategories. Sometimes it's useful, as when he uploads thirty pictures of a single car - pictures which would otherwise swamp a category entirely. But yes, I agree. mr.choppers (talk)-en- 13:46, 3 July 2015 (UTC)
But it does seem to be preferred. I'd like to work towards having it changed and I would like to know your opinion.
See these two pictures and look at the way they've been categorised.
Ford
Chev
  1. The Ford has been given these three categories: Category:1930s Ford automobiles in the Den Hartogh Ford Museum : Category:1936 Ford automobiles : Category:Ford Model 68
  2. The Chev has been given these three categories: Category:Red Chevrolet sedans  : Category:1938 Chevrolet automobiles : Category:Chevrolet Master
And if you look you can find a complete page of images under each category
Now look at these two pictures:
Rolls-Royce
Bentley
  1. The Roller, for the moment, has been given these two categories: Category:Rolls-Royce Phantom III : Category:Arthur Mulliner coachwork. I have set up no new category Category:Rolls-Royces by Arthur Mulliner while the matter is being aired
  2. The Bentley is permitted just the one category: Category:Bentley 3½ Litre by Arthur Mulliner.
    It cannot be viewed under Category:Bentley 3½ Litre or under Category:Arthur Mulliner coachwork. This is to my mind quite wrong, this is squirrelling away from readers' sight isn't it?
Why is it the European cars are not permitted the equal "luxury" of three separate categories just like GM and Ford? On top of that certain European cars never had a standard manufacturer's body so they are entitled to a fourth category (like Red Rolls-Royces?)
We need
  1. a page for all Phantom IIIs,
  2. a page for all Gurney Nutting bodies and
  3. a page for Rolls-Royce by Gurney Nutting
not, as it is supposed to be at the moment, with the page for Gurney Nutting bodies just showing a link to pictures of any on Rolls chassis
The famous coach builders had house styles, a number of them running at the same time and some kept only for particular dealers. Have a look at these shapes and note they are not all for the same brand of car (the reason for the request for item 2. above so this can be viewed by a reader)
A Gurney Nutting House Style, 1930s
Maybe the Bentley isn't a good example but Until (if ever) I go through all the (to my mind) **** misfiled or under categorised bentleys hunting up coachbuilders just the one comes to hand.
Does it save electricity to squirrel things away like that? I don't think so.
Thanks for your response and your patience in this matter. I would like to take this to Categories for Discussion but if you know it would not be favourably regarded please say so. Regards, Eddaido (talk) 08:22, 4 July 2015 (UTC)
I don't know how it would be received, but I doubt that additional categorizations would be desirable. Personally I find a category such as Category:Bentley 3½ Litre by Arthur Mulliner very useful. It is clearly named, and I think it makes the car easier to find in a whole pile of 3½ Litres that aren't always clearly labelled. I know you do a lot of sorting with the help of sortkeys, but still. Adding junk categories such Category:Red Ford sedans is to me pointless, an utter waste of time and data. I think the problem is those Supermat-style categories, created just for a single set of photos. I think that Category:Bentley 3½ Litre is an example of an exemplary category - I can easily and quickly find exactly what I am looking for, without facing a wall of 83 photos. I think that placing all of these photos in several categories would only be confusing. I guess my desire is for granularity, not atomization.
The only reason to have several US car categories is because of the whole model year thing. I have been adding those here and there, such as to post-war Volvos, where the model year is actually somewhat relevant, but adding it to the kinds of cars you like seems a bit plebeian and also pointless as they changed in a much more stately and gradual fashion. Cheers, mr.choppers (talk)-en- 14:06, 4 July 2015 (UTC)
The point of the Gurney Nutting (or whomever) house style is indeed a useful one. You could actually create a page for J Gurney Nutting & Co Limited with such a gallery - perhaps even one gallery per decade. As for additional categories for Rollers and Bentleys and Daimlers and such, I could see them being categorized by bodystyle. Not every single style, but divided into major groupings by coupé, 2-door convertible, sedanca, whatever is useful. mr.choppers (talk)-en- 14:16, 4 July 2015 (UTC)
Sorry to see I've not made myself clear enough! Currently on a domestic overload and will be like that for another 3 or 4 days. Cheers, Eddaido (talk) 13:17, 6 July 2015 (UTC)
No, I see what you're saying, I just believe that a well curated category such as the "Bentley 3.5 by xxxx" is the best way to display all contents. Doubling up and having cars in as many categories as possible is also, IMHO, not useful. Categories such as those created by Supermat, I would opine, actually only hide what's available. mr.choppers (talk)-en- 03:05, 11 July 2015 (UTC)

Categories of Alpina automobiles[edit]

Hello Mr.choppers,

Thank you for categorising precisely the pictures of Alpina automobiles. I already began to do this a long time ago but I didn't have time to finish it.

However, I think some pictures are in the wrong category.

Best regards, Nemesis III (discuter) 23:01, 4 July 2015 (UTC).

@NemesisIII: Thanks NemesisIII. My bad about the E91s, I don't care enough about newer cars to know such details. Please revert. As for the "B10 Biturbo Touring", I thought it was maybe a special order and didn't worry unduly. I since looked it up in the Norwegian registration records and found the following:
Vehicle registration enquiry results
Jurisdiction Skien, Norway
Registration NE61755
Chassis code WBAHG31050GK11715
Engine code 360PS, petrol, 3430cc
Compliance date 1994-11-04 (first reg)
Year of manufacture 1994
Weight 1795 kg (empty)


First registered to its current owner in May 2013 but untaxed since July the same year, so a brief window for the photographer to catch it out! It is a faithful creation of a B10 Biturbo Touring, based on a 518i 5-speed built 1993.10.25 in Dingolfing and originally delivered to Scandinavia. The BMW chassis number (WBA...GK11715) is also missing the usual Alpina deletions. I have amended the descriptions and recategorized the three pictures. Thanks for the heads up, but now I am sad that there is no B10 Biturbo Touring to dream of... I wonder which B10 Biturbo gave up the parts? Also: thread on the car. mr.choppers (talk)-en- 02:33, 5 July 2015 (UTC)
Thanks for finding the thread and the information. As you said, there is no B10 Biturbo Touring to dream of anymore... I'm a little bit sad too, but I think the saloon is better looking :) Nemesis III (discuter) 10:32, 5 July 2015 (UTC).

1950 or 1958[edit]

Hi. Do you agree with this edit by an anonymous (IP) user? If so, please put rename on the file, or ask me, ik can rename too. If you don't agree, please only revert with a reason mentioned. Kind regards, - --Richardkiwi (talk) (talk) 18:41, 9 August 2015 (UTC)

@Richardkiwi: Honestly, I can't remember. Will check my original photo once I am back at my computer. I wouldn't be surprised if the IP knows better than the Rahmi M. Koç museum curators. Thanks for the heads up, mr.choppers (talk)-en- 04:47, 11 August 2015 (UTC)

2CV...[edit]

Hello there !

Instead of uncategorizing what I've done why don't you create a subcat for those types of 2CV ? It'll be better for Commons to sort them, just because of the banner of this cat'. I'll thank you a lot if you do that Face-smile.svg.

Have a good week.

--Llann .\m/ (Lie 2 me ...) 19:42, 18 August 2015 (UTC)

@Llann Wé²: - they are well sorted they way they are/were. Customized means altered after they were built; the Citroneta, FAF, and Bijou are all official Citroën products. Thanks, mr.choppers (talk)-en- 21:49, 18 August 2015 (UTC)
I undestand what you say but I really don't know what kind of sub I may create to sort them... "Other Citroën 2CV bodies" or something like that ? Do you know if there's some examples of this kind of "dérivative work" ? "Modified", "Replica" or "Tuning" are not really good terms... If you have an idea... Thanks. --Llann .\m/ (Lie 2 me ...) 15:01, 20 August 2015 (UTC)
I don't really think that they need a separate grouping, to me they seem fine where they are. Cheers, mr.choppers (talk)-en- 15:02, 20 August 2015 (UTC)
I asked on the french Bistro and the french automobile portal too. Let's see...
Face-smile.svg Thank you --Llann .\m/ (Lie 2 me ...) 15:45, 20 August 2015 (UTC)

Great photos[edit]

Commons barnstar.png The Commons Barnstar
Thanks again for the uploading of extremely high quality photos. These two really caught my attention. Keep up the excellent work! OSX (talkcontributions) 04:20, 2 September 2015 (UTC)
Thanks! As long as people keep parking in nice areas and pedestrians stay away, I'll keep snapping. mr.choppers (talk)-en- 06:05, 2 September 2015 (UTC)

Quality Image Promotion[edit]

1998 Lincoln Mark VIII LSC in red, front left.jpg
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More IP vandalism caught and reverted[edit]

Mr.choppers,

Just to let you know, I have caught (all of, I believe) and reverted more IP vandalism relating to the removal of "by year" categories for various cars and trucks, this time by 90.217.232.108. Once again, the edits seemed to largely target Fords and (to a lesser degree) Volkswagens. I think I've taken care of everything, but you may wish to double check my work. All the best!

Michael Barera (talk) 03:06, 9 September 2015 (UTC)

Volvo[edit]

1945 Volvo PV54  ? ?

Hi Mr C. I'm always in trouble with the local authorities. Please would you correctly identify this vehicle made of very high quality steel. I have made a stab at it which is bound to be wrong and as the misidentification is in the file name I wondered if you would mind sorting the i.d. out and changing it. It certainly does seem to be in very nice order after at least 3 score years and 10. The other pics are there under Category:Volvo PV5X. Cheers, Eddaido (talk) 01:42, 2 October 2015 (UTC)

Hi @Eddaido:, in this picture, the board states that it is a 1937 Volvo PV52. I don't have the time to do any further research, sorry! Cheers, mr.choppers (talk)-en- 04:03, 3 October 2015 (UTC)
And so it does! I spent a lot of time on the sign in the window, the board looked like photos of brochures. I don't mind fixing everything but I can't change the filenames. Thanks for your help, Eddaido (talk) 08:15, 3 October 2015 (UTC)
Just left a note for Matthias v. d. Elbe and he shows on his user page how to nominate files for a change of name. I go to Volvo to do it and it is done. Thank you! Eddaido (talk) 10:40, 6 October 2015 (UTC)
You're welcome @Eddaido:, sorry I didn't give you a heads up. mr.choppers (talk)-en- 19:27, 6 October 2015 (UTC)

Do you think I have been unfair to Eddaido?[edit]

Mr.choppers,

I have recently had a disagreement with Eddaido regarding categorization on Commons, specifically the relationship of Category:Alvis 12/75 in the ZeitHaus to Category:Alvis 12/75. From my perspective, the matter in dispute appears to be a simple case of properly applying the Commons:OVERCAT policy. Because of your experience regarding automobile-related categorization, I greatly value your perspective and (in this situation) your neutrality. In your opinion, do you think that I have either been unfair to Eddaido in this discussion or am in the wrong regarding my interpretation of Commons policy? Thanks so much for considering my request. All the best!

Michael Barera (talk) 00:45, 9 October 2015 (UTC)

I personally don't much care for creating categories for individual cars, unless they are of real historic importance such as a Ferrari P4. However, there is some justification for the ZeitHaus Alvis to have its own category; for one thing there are likely to be many many photos of it. Haven't seen your discussion yet, but I know that Eddaido doesn't always respond very well to differences of opinion. In short, I don't imagine you were at fault. mr.choppers (talk)-en- 05:28, 9 October 2015 (UTC)
This is slightly off-topic, but as a point of information, the folks at Autostadt do appear to "rotate the exhibits" in the Zeithaus a good deal. I was back there earlier this year hoping to use my new camera to get better pictures than ones I had taken on a previous visit. Sadly, most of the cars I'd been hoping to see were no longer on display (though several unanticipated interesting ones were in their place). So if you're planning to go back some day to get further and better pix of that Alvis ... please don't bank on it! I don't think it was on display this year.
As far as categories are concerned, I tend to avoid those discussions. The human brain is for ever creating patterns and categories out of apparently random collections of items and events, and we all process that stuff differently from one another without, under most circumstances, needing to find out the differences at a detailed level. I always figured that a computer database ought to be able to handle overlapping candidates so that - in this case- those wanting to categorise cars individually could do so without causing distress to those wishing to classify according to the colo(u)r, the shape of the front grille, the name on the boot/trunk .... whatever. And vice versa several times over. It's part of my conviction that computers exist to work for us, as opposed to ... the other thing. But for whatever reason my suggestions for endlessly overlapping categories never seem to catch on: it's not just a Wikipedia thing either....
Regards Charles01 (talk) 16:40, 10 October 2015 (UTC)
I think everyone wants what you're after, it just doesn't seem possible yet. Meshing categories would be lovely, I'll be happy when the boffins have worked it out. mr.choppers (talk)-en- 17:28, 10 October 2015 (UTC)

Happy New Year![edit]

Feu d'artifice - 328.jpg
All the best for 2016 !!!.
--LW² \m/ (Lie 2 me ...) 18:00, 1 January 2016 (UTC)

Edits from IPs on Commons[edit]

With respect to your comment here: Whilst I agree that the this particular user are definitely either malicious or incompetent, I would disagree with the sentiment that IPs are generally non-beneficial to Commons. If you look at recent changes by non-logged in users, the vast majority are good edits. This is a typical recent example, picked at random. (Of course, just to prove me wrong, the first I chose wasn't!). Yes, I would support a block of the user in question, but it would not be beneficial to Commons, or any other project, to paint them all with the same brush. Afetr all, most of us started as IPs before we created accounts. Optimist on the run (talk) 07:36, 28 January 2016 (UTC)

@Optimist on the run: - I agree for language projects, but here I rarely encounter useful work done by ips. Registering is easy, and also stability (of categories and so on) is much more important to the Commons as it is a depository used for all of the other projects. Now I will go to my watchlist and spend the next half hour undoing more ip nonsense, instead of making worthwhile contributions. mr.choppers (talk)-en- 18:51, 29 January 2016 (UTC)
The most recent change was this and then randomly I picked this one. Look, I know there is very little chance of anyone listening to me, but I would be curious to see what proportion of spurious/damaging/senseless ip edits would convince you otherwise? I can't say for sure what the proportion might be, but it would be interesting to find out instead of us just talking about our gut feelings. mr.choppers (talk)-en- 19:01, 29 January 2016 (UTC)

Daimler hearses or Category:Coleman Milne vehicles based on Daimler[edit]

Hi Mr C, Happy New Year. Apparently this firm made very few XJ Daimler hearses so it is unlikely we will pick up a photo but better the page disappears altogether than have the strange redirect to Mercedes. OK? cheers, Eddaido (talk) 08:10, 4 February 2016 (UTC)

@Eddaido: - go for it. mr.choppers (talk)-en- 13:47, 4 February 2016 (UTC)

Dacia Lastun picture[edit]

Thx for your message, you are right, the copyright is not clear. Maybe I will find a free picture. Greetings -- Bernello (talk) 13:54, 8 February 2016 (UTC)

Campagna T-Rex 14-R[edit]

HELLO! MY BOSS SAW THE AMAZING YELLOW CAR IN https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Campagna_T-Rex_14-R_rear_left.jpg WHAT IS THE PRICE OF THIS PIECE OF ART, HE ASKS?? SERIOUSLY


THANKS PATRICIA FROM GREECE--62.1.82.105 12:12, 19 February 2016 (UTC)

Hi Πατρικία (Παναγιώτα?), the vehicle is a Campagna T-Rex 14-R (as implied by the title). Here is their website, I suggest trying the internet next time. Cheers. mr.choppers (talk)-en- 00:26, 20 February 2016 (UTC)

Talbot[edit]

Please contact me. dawnraces@gmail.com There are issues you need to be aware of concerning the T23. Many people were misled. Either you were duped or are part of an effort to publish false information to misrepresent the Talbot T23, for the purpose of fraud, conspiracy to commit fraud, on a felony level. If you want to give me a note stating that you were mislead and innocently placed false information on the net, and where you received that information and from whom, it might be in your best interest. Sooner rather than later. Regards, Dawn Spears —Preceding unsigned comment was added by 72.220.44.6 (talk) 20:46, 26 March 2016 (UTC)

I have no clue what you're going on about. Also, bwahahahahahah. mr.choppers (talk)-en- 07:47, 27 March 2016 (UTC)
Mr.choppers, I don't know why, but you always manage to attract society's deranged onto this page! OSX (talkcontributions) 20:45, 28 March 2016 (UTC)
@OSX: Better here than on the street. I'm so curious too, I could almost email them. mr.choppers (talk)-en- 03:21, 29 March 2016 (UTC)

Notification about possible deletion[edit]

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Yours sincerely, –Davey2010Talk 23:03, 7 June 2016 (UTC)

My car[edit]

Hey Mr.Choppers! I wanted to let you know under Oldsmobile Cutlass and the 1975 section you posted up a car that was mine 10 days later from the date shown. I actually own that car in the photo. I was wondering where you got the photo and if you took it. Please let me know or email me.

Hi GD, I did take the photo - through a fence, IIRC. The geo coordinates are in the photo. Cheers, mr.choppers (talk)-en- 03:40, 16 June 2016 (UTC)

Photos of road cars[edit]

Hello, Mr.choppers ! How are you doing? I went to my local autodrome last weekend and took some photos of road cars. Sadly I couldn't find any Peugeot 408 or Mahindra Pickup. Good luck! --NaBUru38 (talk) 16:52, 10 December 2016 (UTC)

@NaBUru38: - thanks for the heads up, will checout your photos right now! mr.choppers (talk)-en- 08:27, 11 December 2016 (UTC)